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[Saint Jimmy]

OK, I see what you're saying. But still, it doesn't sound right to me. Just because they can voice their opinions through articles, they shouldn't have the right to organize a conference? Sounds undemocratic to me, at least by modern standards. One could twist your entire argument around and say 'OK, if they can say it on paper, why cant they say it out loud?'

Then again, I can't help but wonder what would happen if a similar Conference was being held in the RoC about whether EOKA was a terrorist organisation or not. Would our guys allow it? Probably not...

[Turkey (( *]

But if I understand right from Murtazas reply, they are trying to make a conference where they are hated and not giving place to those who are opposing the idea. Another perspective to look at: are they trying to provoke the people with this conference so they lose their temper in the protest and attack the people in the conference?? If the answer is yes, the next day after the conference they will be writing article saying that the Turkish people attacked the Armenians(most likely people to be at the conference) again. And it won't stay with this, they will say that the sole of the genocide is still in the hearts of Turkish people which is unacceptably untrue!

[Murtaza]

Saint Jimmy, that talking of Cemil Cicek is complately an act of stupid.
It harmed our cause.Not helped us.

But still, it doesn't sound right to me. Just because they can voice their opinions through articles, they shouldn't have the right to organize a conference? Sounds undemocratic to me, at least by modern standards.


That is true also. I dont support cicek. Infact He made big mistake. But Noone forced them to postpone conference.(By goverment force)

But out side of Turkey, People think Goverment of turkey postponed conference. That is wrong. Who postponed conference is also who want to make this conference.

And I am sure you will agree with me, People also have right to protest that conference. Democracy is not a one-sided game.

And I think you should also see, this conference is not a good-willed conference because not even one person didnt called who is against genocide.

They just said, we dont listen them anymore, because we know what they say. also can be said people who attend conference.

Infact It was conferance which is undemocratic.

[garbitsch]

Haha Cemil Cicek once said flirting is bitching! I'd never trust AKP's men

[YeReVaN]

Bottom line is Cemil Cicek could not of canceles (postponed) the confrence by himself. If you read the international newspapers they all say that the Government is the one who put pressure on the organizers. The government asked for copies of all the documents that were going to be presented during the conference. After seeing several documents that they didn't like, they asked for those paprers not to be shown. After a lot of disagreements between organizers and the governmet, the government canceles (postponed) the conference.

[YeReVaN]

You thinks, they couldnt express themself, because there is not conference. That is wrong, Their ideas are already expressed by articles, they write.

Yes I'm sure everyone can express themselves very freely in Turkey.

[/quote]when the celebrated Turkish writer Orhan Pamuk dared to declare this year that a million Armenians had been murdered in Turkey, he received three lawsuits for "damaging the State" and a volley of death threats.[quote]


And that is just one example.

[garbitsch]

Well rejecting the "genocide" is a crime in Switzerland. Freedom of expression CAN be limited even in a country which has been known as the "craddle of democracy".

[Murtaza]

garbitsch

He didnt get any punishment, just people accuses it.

the government canceles (postponed) the conference.

This is not true too also. Goverment has no right for this.
Even cemil çiçek said, I wish I had power to stop this conference.


I didnt answer because I dont think I can discuss with Yerevan.

[Murtaza]

And think what would be happen If one people refuse genocide in Armenia.

[YeReVaN]

Martaza is in a complete denial.