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[Kikapu]

VP, so that we can get an honest picture why don't you tell us how many have refused the offer and taken their cases to the ECHR. Surely the way it's set up is open to "abuse". What's to stop thousands of GCs who only want their property back from applying and then turning down the offer of compensation (assuming they are not offered property back) and then going to the EHCR with the claim that the commission is not a fair internal remedy.

Good point, I dont know how many have not been able to reach agreement but do you think they shoudl not be allowed to go back to the ECHR who will hear what was offered if found reasonable they will be sent back for settlement to the property commission as a loss of another 3 4 5 years when the hard cash could have been earning interest.

Actually, the value of their land will appreciate many times more than the silly 2% in the bank. I hope these people are asking the same value for their land, as they would get in the RoC, which in reality, it is. I can just imagine the "TRNC" trying to get these people to sell their properties for a song, because of their desperate situation, caused by the Occupation.

[DT.]

162 applications, 19 have accepted compensation and 3 have had their properties returned, this is the only way forward seeing no comprehensive solution can be agreed.

can you quote your sources?

The property commission.

can i get something a little more credible?

[Kikapu]

Out of 162 applications just three have had there property returned? lol

Its a joke and im sure no politicians apart from Turkey's takes this commission seriously. As if the Turkish Property Commission is going to return even half of the properties to their legit owners. More propaganda crap spread by VP.

19 GCs took the cash and only 3 wanted their land back, must tell you something. You guys have the opportunity to resolve an issue which your leaders have absolutely no intention of solving what are you waiting for?

At this rate, it will take 2,272 years more, to pay the last GC with a claim, based on 50,000 total claims ( educated guess).

The earliest time for the "TRNC" to resolve one of it's problems concerning GC land, will be in the year 4,279!!!

Then we will start the "leveling of the playing field"issues.

Then we will Unite.

Just wanted to make a slight correction, to the above.

I was on the assumption, that the 50,000 claimants only owned ONE piece of property. It is more like, 5-10 in reality, so that will now push the year to settle all the properties in the "TRNC", earliest to Year 13,370.

I'm sure the "TRNC" are doing their very best, to satisfy the GC's, with their applications.!!!!

[humanist]

Well if the trnc really had intentions of unification Kikapu, in a united Cyprus the the bill for compensated property would be absorbed by the new country whatever it looks like. Or may be the case where there may be land exchanges within a legal country and its laws.

On another matter Kikapu my uncle and aunt have just returned from Cyprus. They visited a Turkish Speaking Cypriot friend of theirs who informed them that the friction between the settlers and TSC's is worsening and fears there may be internal conflict. Apparently most turkish speaking Cyp's want unification but appreciate the pressure of the Turkish Army.

[Kikapu]

Well if the trnc really had intentions of unification Kikapu, in a united Cyprus the the bill for compensated property would be absorbed by the new country whatever it looks like. Or may be the case where there may be land exchanges within a legal country and its laws.

Hello Humanist,

I'm just adding some humour, as to when the "TRNC" could expect any kind of formal recognition from the International Community, for solving the "Land Issues".

Of course, other issues still remain at hand, so the year 13,370, is the earliest.

Poor VP and Zan will be long gone from seeing their dreams come true.

On the other hand, they could push for 1 Country 2 states solution now, and see their "state" in the Northern Cyprus prosper from the beginning.

[Viewpoint]

Well if the trnc really had intentions of unification Kikapu, in a united Cyprus the the bill for compensated property would be absorbed by the new country whatever it looks like. Or may be the case where there may be land exchanges within a legal country and its laws.

On another matter Kikapu my uncle and aunt have just returned from Cyprus. They visited a Turkish Speaking Cypriot friend of theirs who informed them that the friction between the settlers and TSC's is worsening and fears there may be internal conflict. Apparently most turkish speaking Cyp's want unification but appreciate the pressure of the Turkish Army.

Friction where? what incident suggests this? is it something we have not heard about or is it what you want to believe? or wish would happen?

[DT.]

Well if the trnc really had intentions of unification Kikapu, in a united Cyprus the the bill for compensated property would be absorbed by the new country whatever it looks like. Or may be the case where there may be land exchanges within a legal country and its laws.

On another matter Kikapu my uncle and aunt have just returned from Cyprus. They visited a Turkish Speaking Cypriot friend of theirs who informed them that the friction between the settlers and TSC's is worsening and fears there may be internal conflict. Apparently most turkish speaking Cyp's want unification but appreciate the pressure of the Turkish Army.

Friction where? what incident suggests this? is it something we have not heard about or is it what you want to believe? or wish would happen?

I agree with VP here. If there is friction then the only thing that will happen is more TC's will emigrate as in the past.

[Kikapu]

On another matter Kikapu my uncle and aunt have just returned from Cyprus. They visited a Turkish Speaking Cypriot friend of theirs who informed them that the friction between the settlers and TSC's is worsening and fears there may be internal conflict. Apparently most turkish speaking Cyp's want unification but appreciate the pressure of the Turkish Army.

I missed this part, when I answered the other part. Did you just add this piece on??

Humanist, let me tell you in what I believe. The Turks from Turkey has always looked down at the TC's, living in Cyprus, or in Turkey. They see as, as bunch of peasants, never mind, that we are better than them, in many aspects. They judge us the way we use our words, the way we sound, the way we talk. We are not as "sophisticated" as they are. We don't say all the sweet things to each other, like, Canim, Guzum, Sekerim, Tatlim, Birtanem, Fistigim, and on and on. When we talk, we don't "sing" our words like they do. The nearest I can compare the two dialects, are what the British sound like, and the Americans. The Turks being the Americans, and the TC's being the British.

Here is a true story. At age 9, in 1964, I went to live in Ankara with my TC Aunt and her Turkish husband (uncle) and my Grandmother. I love my Turkish Uncle. I was admitted to a local school, and one day, I had a fist fight with one of the "snot nosed" Turkish kid, telling me, that Turkey should not have helped us, so I punched him out. The little bastard even at that age, had racist views, towards the TC's. Needless to say, I was brought to the Headmasters Office.

I have no doubt, that the Turks now come to the "TRNC", and still think of the TC's, as a bunch of peasants, specially they have the Numerical Majority, so I believe what your Aunt and Uncle have told you.

Poor VP, he is a Minority in the "TRNC", a Minority in the RoC, and even a Minority, in the UK.

It's time for him to buy his very own small island, so that he can be the Majority.

It must be a curse for him.

[Get Real!]

Poor VP, he is a Minority in the "TRNC", a Minority in the RoC, and even a Minority, in the UK.

It's time for him to buy his very own small island, so that he can be the Majority.

VP is a victim of Turkish propaganda like so many of his people that have been led to believe that they are numerous enough and able to form a “state” and rule half of Cyprus.

They totally ignore the fact that Turkey gives vast annual aid to keep them looking like they are running a “country” so they hold onto the misconception that once the “embargoes” are relaxed all these magical business activities will turn the “TRNC” into a Switzerland, or Singapore, or something.

TC’s like VP totally ignore the fact that most of their people are uneducated, unskilled, and totally out of touch with contemporary international standards and wouldn’t stand a chance competing in the real world. The educational programs that would be required to bring them up to scratch would be large, costly, and very long term.

These so-called “educated” Turkish Cypriots, usually from the Diaspora, are actually the ones that are leading their people to extinction by spreading their unattainable theories with absolutely no plans as to how this magical prosperity will come about. They haven’t the faintest idea how such a small workforce with so many shortcomings can possibly establish and sustain a modern infrastructure and couldn’t care less either, as long as you hoist the red on white bogus flag and shout Attaturk!.

Turkey of course wants the TC’s to think this way so that they may continue “justifying” their illegal stay in Cyprus and for them the annual aid given to the TC’s is like a rental payment for the strategically useless military base on Cyprus. What a sad lot!

Regards, GR.

[T_C]

TC’s like VP totally ignore the fact that most of their people are uneducated, unskilled, and totally out of touch with contemporary international standards and wouldn’t stand a chance competing in the real world.

What are you talking about GR? What makes you think that???