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HOW DO GREEK CYPRIOTS SEE TURKISH CYPRIOTS?

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Postby T_C » Tue May 29, 2007 6:15 pm

cypezokyli wrote:besides as the article sais, seeds of cypriotism existed already from before :

From the 1920s to the 1940s elements of Cypriotism can be found in declarations of the Cypriot Communist Party [KKK], which later became transformed into AKEL


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Postby cypezokyli » Tue May 29, 2007 6:29 pm

Nikephoros wrote:So like the great Soviet and Yugoslav peoples the great Cypriot people was presaged by rigid authoritarian Marxists on Cyprus, the Communist party. I am sure you should be comfortable knowing what happened to alot of the other now extinct Marxist inspired fake ethnicities.


the point i was trying to make was that seeds of cypriotism existed before 74. they only gained legitimacy after the "achievements" of the right.

"fake ethnicities" exist elsewhere as well, in the western world. the fact that yugoslavia and USSR collapsed has nothing to do with "fake ethnicities"
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Postby Nikephoros » Tue May 29, 2007 8:53 pm

So the seeds of Cypriotism existed before because the KKK using the typical Marxist nonsense said in Cyprus there are only Cypriots; Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are a division of Turkish and Greek Capitalisms.

It is a laughable to build a future on such thinking.
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue May 29, 2007 9:52 pm

Nikephoros wrote:So the seeds of Cypriotism existed before because the KKK using the typical Marxist nonsense said in Cyprus there are only Cypriots; Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are a division of Turkish and Greek Capitalisms.

It is a laughable to build a future on such thinking.


so what is your idea of building a future ?
based on what ?
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 29, 2007 10:51 pm

miltiades wrote:Listen stupid , can you you get it through your THICK HEAD THAT THERE ARE CYPRIOTS JUST AS MUCH AS THERE ARE MALTESE , ITALIANS , SPANISH , GERMANS , ENGLISH , JAMAICANS , EGYPTIANS , BLUE TITS , PINK TITS , SPARROWS and fucking Greeks , What is the matter with your brain stupid . Are you not a fucking Kipreos ,. are you a Kalamaras for fucks sake !


Miltiades, just because a schizophrenic like Nikephorakos talks the rubbish he does, that doesn't mean that as a response, you are excused or justified to try insulting and degrading Greek people in the way you do; simply because such attitude ...does not make you any less of a schizophrenic individual.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue May 29, 2007 11:08 pm

Kifeas wrote:
miltiades wrote:Listen stupid , can you you get it through your THICK HEAD THAT THERE ARE CYPRIOTS JUST AS MUCH AS THERE ARE MALTESE , ITALIANS , SPANISH , GERMANS , ENGLISH , JAMAICANS , EGYPTIANS , BLUE TITS , PINK TITS , SPARROWS and fucking Greeks , What is the matter with your brain stupid . Are you not a fucking Kipreos ,. are you a Kalamaras for fucks sake !


Miltiades, just because a schizophrenic like Nikephorakos talks the rubbish he does, that doesn't mean that as a response, you are excused or justified to try insulting and degrading Greek people in the way you do; simply because such attitude ...does not make you any less of a schizophrenic individual.

And just because a possibly schizophrenic like Miltiades insults a definite schizophrenic like Nikephorakos doesn't mean you are excused or justified to tell off a likely schizophrenic and it doesn't make you any less schizophrenic! :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue May 29, 2007 11:10 pm

who is talking to who here :? :lol:
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Postby cypezokyli » Wed May 30, 2007 10:41 am

call a shrink !!!!

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Postby bigOz » Wed May 30, 2007 12:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
miltiades wrote:Listen stupid , can you you get it through your THICK HEAD THAT THERE ARE CYPRIOTS JUST AS MUCH AS THERE ARE MALTESE , ITALIANS , SPANISH , GERMANS , ENGLISH , JAMAICANS , EGYPTIANS , BLUE TITS , PINK TITS , SPARROWS and fucking Greeks , What is the matter with your brain stupid . Are you not a fucking Kipreos ,. are you a Kalamaras for fucks sake !


Miltiades, just because a schizophrenic like Nikephorakos talks the rubbish he does, that doesn't mean that as a response, you are excused or justified to try insulting and degrading Greek people in the way you do; simply because such attitude ...does not make you any less of a schizophrenic individual.

And just because a possibly schizophrenic like Miltiades insults a definite schizophrenic like Nikephorakos doesn't mean you are excused or justified to tell off a likely schizophrenic and it doesn't make you any less schizophrenic! :lol:

And just because Miltiades insults a definite schizophrenic like Nikephorakos, and Kifaes tells off a likely schizophrenic which doesn't make him any less schizophrenic does not mean you have to try and build a reputation for yourself on their misfortunes!Image
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Postby LENA » Wed May 30, 2007 12:44 pm

Because the above conversation...belong to children around the age of kindergarten...and the thread is about the views of the Greek Cypriots towards the Turkish Cypriot...I would like to quote something that I came across in an article...I hate copy paste but at least this is quite interesting and doesnt repeat the same things

This is an article about the images of ‘the Other’ ‘the Turk’ in Greek Cypriot children’s imaginations...and children can not separate the Turks for TC so easy...


There was a Turk, a Greek and an American and they went up a very tall mountain. The American took his shirt off and threw it down. The Turk asked him, ‘Why did you throw your shirt down?’ And the American told him, ‘We have a lot in America’. Then the Turk was jealous and took his
watch off and threw it down. The Cypriot [she means the ‘Greek’] says
to the Turk, ‘Why did you throw your watch down? It’s so nice!’ They
were all friends. And the Turk said, ‘Ouh, we have a lot in Turkey’. Then
the Cypriot takes the Turk and throws him down from the cliff and the
American says, ‘Why did you throw the Turk down the cliff?’ And the
Cypriot said, ‘We have a lot of them in Cyprus’.
When Elena, a sixth grader, told me this joke she laughed with her heart. It was meant to be a joke, to entertain. But the matter to which it referred was a serious one, for Elena and all the other children I worked with and who at times would tell me jokes like this. The choice of Turks in the punchline is not accidental, of course. It is precisely the reason for it being
a joke. The Turks are a well-understood problem for Greek Cypriot children. They are the invaders, the occupiers, the enemy. Therefore, as
a group they have a unique position in their imaginations.
[...]
Identity construction is a situated process. It takes place in specific social, cultural, and political contexts at a specific point in history. Today the primary ‘other’ against whom Greek Cypriot children construct their identities are the Turks. ‘Others’ change through time, enemies come and go, even if nationalist historiography likes to construct them as eternal adversaries of the nation. The inter-ethnic problems of the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities during the 1960s, the coup and the
Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974, and the stalemate in all political attempts to solve the Cyprus problem have helped create and sustain the image of ‘the Turk’ as the principal enemy of Greek Cypriots and the Greek nation at large. The Greek Cypriot children I worked with had well-constructed images of the Turks in their minds. Their understandings were greatly informed by the larger cultural discourses to which they were exposed. In the process of growing up in a society where they are constantly made aware of the ‘abnormality’ resulting from the
Turkish occupation in Cyprus, they learn that Turks stand as the major obstacle to the reinstatement of peace and tranquillity in their country. They come to see the division of Cyprus as an unjust state of affairs, one for which Turkey, above all, is responsible. During this process of growing up and learning who they themselves are, they also learn who the enemies are. Enemies are indeed important in identity construction; they help to concretise the sense of ‘self’. This dialectic between ‘self’ and ‘other’–the very process of identity construction–is what I am concerned with here.


The article is quite big to post it here but is really interesting...and i can send it to those who are interested...the words "barbaric Turks" as the general idea that children get from school is also mention there etc.
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