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[zan]

Any way I will have to make it quick now but this is to Birk and Kikapyros.

There is a lady on the ATCA site that is a well respected teacher in the TRNC/KKTC and loved and known in Lefcosa. I want to ask those two cowards to get in touch with her to ask about what it is really like in the TRNC/KKTC. They can do it by PMs or emails if she is approached properly. I don't know her personally but I will make a point of visiting her next time I am there. How about it cowards. It might destroy your little brains and your perceptions but is education not worth it. Someone give Birk a nudge because he keeps coming up with the same old excuses that he missed the post.

WHO us, Cowards, when you and TMT Viewpoint do not even answer my post to you both, and you want me to chase down some "ghost" at the ATCA.

Is this going to be another one of VP proving to us who he really is, if we would just meet with him in the "TRNC", so he can show us where he works and lives. We can even meet his family, but he won't answer my posts to him.

Nice try Zan.

Did not expect anything different Kikapyros. You are chicken shit just like your fiend Birk who did not even bother to answer. Can you give me the link to your post that I did not bother to answer please?

You are becoming more and more laughable with each pasing day,Zan...
Why do you think the opinions of anyone on the ATCA site are more reliable than mine or Kikapu's or yours for that matter...???
ATCA is a collection of individuals who single can do nothing but together can decide that nothing should be done to upset the status quo in Cyprus.They are a crowd of pathetic individuals whose fascist intolerance of any opinion to the left of Cengiz Han is legendary...Some might even consider Cengiz Han as the ultimate in tolerance and sophistication...I wouldnt believe them if they told me milk is white...teacher or no teacher...

That’s the whole point. You do not want this little world you have made for yourself shattered. To you anyone that posts on the ATCA site is wrong and that is that. You are the only Turk in the whole wide world that knows what is going on and you tell me I am becoming laughable. You won't listen to an electrician or a lawyer or a teacher or a judge as long as they go against your pathetic ways. Who the hell are you to have got it so so right and the rest of us so wrong. At least I listen to what my brothers and sisters are saying but you, an isolated OZI Turk with a hate for |Turks because of a marriage are better at telling the TCs what they want. I have no respect for any of your views until you decide to get up off your big fat arse and go and talk to the people in the TRNC/KKTC. Until that point you have no right to comment on what they should do with their lives. You on the other hand can go and live on whichever side you decide your bread is buttered on. That is the only right you have. My people did not die so that you can drag their names through the mud and belittle the suffering of what they went through. You cry only for your Greek cousins when we clearly cry for both. We vote to unite and they turn us away. We try to talk and they tell us we do not exist. We try to live and they say if we do they will come and kill us anyway if we do not surrender now. It ain't gonna happen because we have every right to be there and we have every right to govern ourselves in spite of a hostile "RoC" with a hostile president. Our path is clear.

[DT.]

Any way I will have to make it quick now but this is to Birk and Kikapyros.

There is a lady on the ATCA site that is a well respected teacher in the TRNC/KKTC and loved and known in Lefcosa. I want to ask those two cowards to get in touch with her to ask about what it is really like in the TRNC/KKTC. They can do it by PMs or emails if she is approached properly. I don't know her personally but I will make a point of visiting her next time I am there. How about it cowards. It might destroy your little brains and your perceptions but is education not worth it. Someone give Birk a nudge because he keeps coming up with the same old excuses that he missed the post.

WHO us, Cowards, when you and TMT Viewpoint do not even answer my post to you both, and you want me to chase down some "ghost" at the ATCA.

Is this going to be another one of VP proving to us who he really is, if we would just meet with him in the "TRNC", so he can show us where he works and lives. We can even meet his family, but he won't answer my posts to him.

Nice try Zan.

Did not expect anything different Kikapyros. You are chicken shit just like your fiend Birk who did not even bother to answer. Can you give me the link to your post that I did not bother to answer please?

You are becoming more and more laughable with each pasing day,Zan...
Why do you think the opinions of anyone on the ATCA site are more reliable than mine or Kikapu's or yours for that matter...???
ATCA is a collection of individuals who single can do nothing but together can decide that nothing should be done to upset the status quo in Cyprus.They are a crowd of pathetic individuals whose fascist intolerance of any opinion to the left of Cengiz Han is legendary...Some might even consider Cengiz Han as the ultimate in tolerance and sophistication...I wouldnt believe them if they told me milk is white...teacher or no teacher...

That’s the whole point. You do not want this little world you have made for yourself shattered. To you anyone that posts on the ATCA site is wrong and that is that. You are the only Turk in the whole wide world that knows what is going on and you tell me I am becoming laughable. You won't listen to an electrician or a lawyer or a teacher or a judge as long as they go against your pathetic ways. Who the hell are you to have got it so so right and the rest of us so wrong. At least I listen to what my brothers and sisters are saying but you, an isolated OZI Turk with a hate for |Turks because of a marriage are better at telling the TCs what they want. I have no respect for any of your views until you decide to get up off your big fat arse and go and talk to the people in the TRNC/KKTC. Until that point you have no right to comment on what they should do with their lives. You on the other hand can go and live on whichever side you decide your bread is buttered on. That is the only right you have. My people did not die so that you can drag their names through the mud and belittle the suffering of what they went through. You cry only for your Greek cousins when we clearly cry for both. We vote to unite and they turn us away. We try to talk and they tell us we do not exist. We try to live and they say if we do they will come and kill us anyway if we do not surrender now. It ain't gonna happen because we have every right to be there and we have every right to govern ourselves in spite of a hostile "RoC" with a hostile president. Our path is clear.

Who said they're gonna kill you?

[zan]

Well, lets start with Piratis' shift in power and then we can go into Miltiades bombs and threats of no peace. We have the Greek nationalists on one side and the so called True Cypriots on the other. Then they wonder why we will never let go of Turkey and welcome an annexation if it happens. It seems we are the only ones that want peace on the island.

[DT.]

Well, lets start with Piratis' shift in power and then we can go into Miltiades bombs and threats of no peace. We have the Greek nationalists on one side and the so called True Cypriots on the other. Then they wonder why we will never let go of Turkey and welcome an annexation if it happens. It seems we are the only ones that want peace on the island.

as long as we're not getting too dramatic and exaggerating things.

as the french say...monsieur you are full of poupou

[zan]

Well, lets start with Piratis' shift in power and then we can go into Miltiades bombs and threats of no peace. We have the Greek nationalists on one side and the so called True Cypriots on the other. Then they wonder why we will never let go of Turkey and welcome an annexation if it happens. It seems we are the only ones that want peace on the island.

as long as we're not getting too dramatic and exaggerating things.

as the french say...monsieur you are full of poupou

I wonder how many French impersonators said that when the shout went up about EOKA and the Akritas plan. We will not underestimate the threats against us DT. If we have not learned much we have certainly learned that. You can laugh as loud as you like but I will keep an eye out for those that wish me and mine harm.


"Ships….I see no ships".

Looking at an Armada approaching through a blind eye is not something that we will be doing.

[DT.]

Well, lets start with Piratis' shift in power and then we can go into Miltiades bombs and threats of no peace. We have the Greek nationalists on one side and the so called True Cypriots on the other. Then they wonder why we will never let go of Turkey and welcome an annexation if it happens. It seems we are the only ones that want peace on the island.

as long as we're not getting too dramatic and exaggerating things.

as the french say...monsieur you are full of poupou

I wonder how many French impersonators said that when the shout went up about EOKA and the Akritas plan. We will not underestimate the threats against us DT. If we have not learned much we have certainly learned that. You can laugh as loud as you like but I will keep an eye out for those that wish me and mine harm.


"Ships….I see no ships".

Looking at an Armada approaching through a blind eye is not something that we will be doing.

ok Zan. Unfortunately in the 21st century, in an EU member state if you're not feeling zipped up by a Belgian from head to toe in procedure then you're not really european.

Can you imagine the amount of forms we'd need to fill in and send to Brussels to start inter-communal fighting again?

But seriously, I see no way of convincing you out of this paranoia. I just wonder however that I as a GC refugee, who lost his home, and whose family saw the mehmetchik up close and personal has put his fears aside why can't you?

This isn't a judgement on you by any means, just an honest question.

[zan]

Well, lets start with Piratis' shift in power and then we can go into Miltiades bombs and threats of no peace. We have the Greek nationalists on one side and the so called True Cypriots on the other. Then they wonder why we will never let go of Turkey and welcome an annexation if it happens. It seems we are the only ones that want peace on the island.

as long as we're not getting too dramatic and exaggerating things.

as the french say...monsieur you are full of poupou

I wonder how many French impersonators said that when the shout went up about EOKA and the Akritas plan. We will not underestimate the threats against us DT. If we have not learned much we have certainly learned that. You can laugh as loud as you like but I will keep an eye out for those that wish me and mine harm.


"Ships….I see no ships".

Looking at an Armada approaching through a blind eye is not something that we will be doing.

ok Zan. Unfortunately in the 21st century, in an EU member state if you're not feeling zipped up by a Belgian from head to toe in procedure then you're not really european.

Can you imagine the amount of forms we'd need to fill in and send to Brussels to start inter-communal fighting again?

But seriously, I see no way of convincing you out of this paranoia. I just wonder however that I as a GC refugee, who lost his home, and whose family saw the mehmetchik up close and personal has put his fears aside why can't you?

This isn't a judgement on you by any means, just an honest question.

I think this is a very telling post DT. You have no fear of the Turks because there is no fear to be had. You feel safe because you know that Turkey can do you no more harm. The opposite applies to us. The chilling stories I have heard from my brother in-law that would plead with the UN soldiers to go and stop the Greeks from killing people right in front of them. Does the EU have an agenda about internal conflict. Are other EU countries aloud to come in and stop a government that has said that there has been an uprising against it and had to kill terrorists. There are many ways to kill and many excuses on how and why you started killing. This Turk hating government of yours DT will bully us and I have no doubt about that. We will have to fight for every little thing that we should be entitled to and that will bring about bad feeling. Look what happened last time we tried to put our political rights into practise. Sorry my friend but times have not changed that much and if you cannot see the many ways that an internal conflict can happen and why it cannot be stopped or may even be aided from outside hen o wonder you are not afraid or paranoid. It is one thing to be afraid of the dark and what you don't understand but it is quite another to see the realities and what could and possibly will happen.

[DT.]

Zan you commit the same mistake others do on this forum by assuming you know which community sufferred the most. There's at least 80% of the population of this island that disagrees with your notion on that and at the very least its worth noting.

Now if you brush aside that notion that you have not sufferred more than the GC's community and that blame can be placed on both sides then what do you have left to be afraid off?

If you've given as bad (and worse according to GC's) then why do you fear when the last agressor on this island was you?

I think the difference lies in the fact that we've had the benefit of recognition and membership of the EU. Trouble on the island will be dealt with legally if it happens, with proper procedure and without bias. Thats how it works, as you say this ain't the 50's anymore.

[zan]

Zan you commit the same mistake others do on this forum by assuming you know which community sufferred the most. There's at least 80% of the population of this island that disagrees with your notion on that and at the very least its worth noting.

Now if you brush aside that notion that you have not sufferred more than the GC's community and that blame can be placed on both sides then what do you have left to be afraid off?

If you've given as bad (and worse according to GC's) then why do you fear when the last agressor on this island was you?

I think the difference lies in the fact that we've had the benefit of recognition and membership of the EU. Trouble on the island will be dealt with legally if it happens, with proper procedure and without bias. Thats how it works, as you say this ain't the 50's anymore.

You go on and believe that DT and I have no problem with that. I do not believe it and yes it is the 21st century but nothing about man has changed. I remember the hype at school and all around the country when it was nearly 1970. It came and went and noting changed. It happened again in 2000 and nothing changed. We all had hope on that New Years Eve of man waking up and fulfilling their destiny but nothing happened. Still the weak get bombed and killed. Still the greedy and the rich get to subjugate the poor. You tell me that "that’s the way it happens" as if there is no injustice in the world. The Israelis bulldoze buildings of innocent people because of terrorist still. America bombs and bullies its way all around the world still. So for you to tell me that this is the 21st century when a 20th century EOKA and ENOSIS wanting president still resides in the "RoC" government building and politicians are sacked for speaking against them then I am not impressed with the 21st century I am afraid.

[Kikapu]

Any way I will have to make it quick now but this is to Birk and Kikapyros.

There is a lady on the ATCA site that is a well respected teacher in the TRNC/KKTC and loved and known in Lefcosa. I want to ask those two cowards to get in touch with her to ask about what it is really like in the TRNC/KKTC. They can do it by PMs or emails if she is approached properly. I don't know her personally but I will make a point of visiting her next time I am there. How about it cowards. It might destroy your little brains and your perceptions but is education not worth it. Someone give Birk a nudge because he keeps coming up with the same old excuses that he missed the post.

WHO us, Cowards, when you and TMT Viewpoint do not even answer my post to you both, and you want me to chase down some "ghost" at the ATCA.

Is this going to be another one of VP proving to us who he really is, if we would just meet with him in the "TRNC", so he can show us where he works and lives. We can even meet his family, but he won't answer my posts to him.

Nice try Zan.

Did not expect anything different Kikapyros. You are chicken shit just like your fiend Birk who did not even bother to answer. Can you give me the link to your post that I did not bother to answer please?

Yes Zan, it will be my pleasure.

It's the one which you said "Fuck You" to me 4 times few days ago.

Now you should be able to find it.