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[denizaksulu]

BigOz asks "When and where did they attack and kill each other in Cyprus before the 1950s???"




I would have asked "When and where did they attack and kill each other in Cyprus just because they were Greek or Turkish speaking Cypriots?
There will always be a clever d..k who will find some murder and point it out and all it was , was that one owed the other money or looked at his wife with evil inten or something.

[BirKibrisli]

Until the British took control of Cyprus,there were only Cypriots living in Cyprus....Muslim Cypriots which were the favoured minority,and the Christian Cypriots which were not so blessed...The only killings that would've happened then would've been on the usual grounds (for honour,or land disputes,or officially sanctioned revenge killings etc)...Greek and Turkish nationalism did not appear till the end of WW1,amply encouraged by the British for their own selfish interests...

During the Ottoman times there were quite a few uprisings by mainly the Christian Cypriots for tax reasons, which were brutally suppressed by the Ottoman soldiers.In some of those uprisings,both Muslim and Christian Cypriots fought side by side and supported each other...during British times they had to come up with ways to divide and rule,hence nationalism was pushed to the foreground...Cypriots have been paying the price in blood,losses of property,country and identity,ever since...Silly Us...

[zan]

Until the British took control of Cyprus,there were only Cypriots living in Cyprus....Muslim Cypriots which were the favoured minority,and the Christian Cypriots which were not so blessed...The only killings that would've happened then would've been on the usual grounds (for honour,or land disputes,or officially sanctioned revenge killings etc)...Greek and Turkish nationalism did not appear till the end of WW1,amply encouraged by the British for their own selfish interests...

During the Ottoman times there were quite a few uprisings by mainly the Christian Cypriots for tax reasons, which were brutally suppressed by the Ottoman soldiers.In some of those uprisings,both Muslim and Christian Cypriots fought side by side and supported each other...during British times they had to come up with ways to divide and rule,hence nationalism was pushed to the foreground...Cypriots have been paying the price in blood,losses of property,country and identity,ever since...Silly Us...

Did Enosis and the thought that having fought side by side with our Christian cousins and then letting them sell our island to Greece have anything to do with it I wonder????????????

[denizaksulu]

To BirKibrisli; My understanding of the situation regarding Turkish Nationalism is quite different. In the twenties, thirties, forties and even the fifties, the English authorities were hell bent on stiflinfg the ever threat of Turkish Nationalism. In the few Villages where I lived, I was often told that the then Colonial rulers refused to build Muslim Schools (they were never refered to as Turkish schools) (The sources of this information were old teachers who had to travel miles to other villages because of the lack of Turkish Schools). Where no Turkish School existed they were told to attend Greek schools if they wanted any education. I do know people who had started their student years in greek primary schools, then decided to walk miles to other villages which did have Turkish schools. The point I am making is that Turkish Nationalism and the moslem population in general were supressed by the colonial system.

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

The point I am making is that Turkish Nationalism and the moslem population in general were supressed by the colonial system.

Maybe in hindsight that was something good British colonialism did because Turkish nationalism is rampant and quite ridiculous right now.

[denizaksulu]

Who pressed the Snakes button? Is Turkish Nationalism something you have to fear?

[Get Real!]

To BirKibrisli; My understanding of the situation regarding Turkish Nationalism is quite different. In the twenties, thirties, forties and even the fifties, the English authorities were hell bent on stiflinfg the ever threat of Turkish Nationalism. In the few Villages where I lived, I was often told that the then Colonial rulers refused to build Muslim Schools (they were never refered to as Turkish schools) (The sources of this information were old teachers who had to travel miles to other villages because of the lack of Turkish Schools). Where no Turkish School existed they were told to attend Greek schools if they wanted any education. I do know people who had started their student years in greek primary schools, then decided to walk miles to other villages which did have Turkish schools. The point I am making is that Turkish Nationalism and the moslem population in general were supressed by the colonial system.

That's because those TC's that stayed in Cyprus signed away their Turkish Nationality in return for British. Read article 21 from the link below...

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/treaty_of_lausanne.htm

Turkish nationals ordinarily resident in Cyprus on the 5th November, 1914, will acquire British nationality subject to the conditions laid down in the local law, and will thereupon lose their Turkish nationality. They will, however, have the right to opt for Turkish nationality within two years from the coming into force of the present Treaty, provided that they leave Cyprus within twelve months after having so opted.

Turkish nationals ordinarily resident in Cyprus on the coming into force of the present Treaty who, at that date, have acquired or are in process of acquiring British nationality in consequence of a request made in accordance with the local law, will also thereupon lose their Turkish nationality.

It is understood that the Government of Cyprus will be entitled to refuse British nationality to inhabitants of the island who, being Turkish nationals, had formerly acquired another nationality without the consent of the Turkish Government.

[denizaksulu]

Thanks again as always "the source of so much info" Get Real. Yes that might be the case. I was explaining the situation as I knew it to BK in more simplific terms.
Next time I visit you I will have check-out your sources. You must have Million Gig capacity in your bunker!

[zan]

To BirKibrisli; My understanding of the situation regarding Turkish Nationalism is quite different. In the twenties, thirties, forties and even the fifties, the English authorities were hell bent on stiflinfg the ever threat of Turkish Nationalism. In the few Villages where I lived, I was often told that the then Colonial rulers refused to build Muslim Schools (they were never refered to as Turkish schools) (The sources of this information were old teachers who had to travel miles to other villages because of the lack of Turkish Schools). Where no Turkish School existed they were told to attend Greek schools if they wanted any education. I do know people who had started their student years in greek primary schools, then decided to walk miles to other villages which did have Turkish schools. The point I am making is that Turkish Nationalism and the moslem population in general were supressed by the colonial system.

Have a look at Macadonia and Crete and you will see what is expected of being Turkish my friend.

[pitsilos]

and while you are at it have a goooooood look at the 1955 events in turkey to see how hospitable the turks are, hey zan?