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[EPSILON]

EPSILON I think that under your theory there no such peaple like Americans, Canadians , Australians, or New Zealanders because there are no such nations!
Cyprus IS a nation and the inhabitants of this nation are CYPRIOTS not Greeks or Turks or WHATEVER!
Yes they have an ethnic background but they also have their own uniqie culture!
If you dont consider yourself a Cypriot then I suggest you should move to another place ...

Cyprus is a UNIQUE nation having various people with different etchnic backgrounds!
Yes the Cyprus problem is between us Cypriots and Turkey but your thoughts atr just their thoughts also!

WELCOME ON BOARD . We are following your ideas for 40 years and we are getting worst and worst results. Your theory about Cyprus nation may could help in case the problem was between GCs and TCs.But unfortunately the problem is with Turkey- Your theories guided the interntional community to move from the clear position of an invasion/occupation problem to closer thesis of Turks.May be you will realise what we are doing wrong (the GCs) in the next 40 years an particularly if we sign any of these clever solution proposals may be you and me will demostrate for the rights of Greek minority in Cyprus.

I can only understand people supporting any solution offered to us unil now in case they are either have huge property in North and put this over the futue of the Island or they consider Turks stupids and by the famous commercial clever Greeks will conrol the Island again or worst my mutual cooperation of labors in South/North it wil be a united and free country.

The last two, if some of you thing this way , you make a big mistake- you are not dealling with pure/uneducated TCs you are dealling with a huge country of 80million people-There i no way for a fair solution, presently. Just stop negotiating and eturn the problem to its initial base-INVASION/OCCUPATION

[DT.]

EPSILON I think that under your theory there no such peaple like Americans, Canadians , Australians, or New Zealanders because there are no such nations!
Cyprus IS a nation and the inhabitants of this nation are CYPRIOTS not Greeks or Turks or WHATEVER!
Yes they have an ethnic background but they also have their own uniqie culture!
If you dont consider yourself a Cypriot then I suggest you should move to another place ...

Cyprus is a UNIQUE nation having various people with different etchnic backgrounds!
Yes the Cyprus problem is between us Cypriots and Turkey but your thoughts atr just their thoughts also!

WELCOME ON BOARD . We are following your ideas for 40 years and we are getting worst and worst results. Your theory about Cyprus nation may could help in case the problem was between GCs and TCs.But unfortunately the problem is with Turkey- Your theories guided the interntional community to move from the clear position of an invasion/occupation problem to closer thesis of Turks.May be you will realise what we are doing wrong (the GCs) in the next 40 years an particularly if we sign any of these clever solution proposals may be you and me will demostrate for the rights of Greek minority in Cyprus.

I can only understand people supporting any solution offered to us unil now in case they are either have huge property in North and put this over the futue of the Island or they consider Turks stupids and by the famous commercial clever Greeks will conrol the Island again or worst my mutual cooperation of labors in South/North it wil be a united and free country.

The last two, if some of you thing this way , you make a big mistake- you are not dealling with pure/uneducated TCs you are dealling with a huge country of 80million people-There i no way for a fair solution, presently. Just stop negotiating and eturn the problem to its initial base-INVASION/OCCUPATION

think its far too late to turn the principles of the discusison back to invasion/occupation now.

[Viewpoint]

Yeah …right? You found the perfect cure to all our ailments, Epsilon!

Yeah! Let’s all take the shining path that you point us towards!

I suppose your zero political IQ doesn’t allow you to understand that there is a far better chance that the TCs will convince the rest of the world to allow them a recognized state in the 37% of Cyprus; than there is a chance to convince even one single person outside Greece or Cyprus of the validity of your theories, especially those about a non-existing Cypriot nation, but only Greeks and Turks. Such a political moron you are, that you do not even realize or know that in fact this is precisely the Turkish thesis and argument on the basis of which they are hoping to legitimize and legalize partition, and the only reason they haven’t succeed so far is because the international community doesn’t favor or accept such an approach.

Go and join the ranks of the Turkish kemalists, the neo-ottoman pan-touranists, the deep-state, the Generals of the TA and the Denktash followers in the north; so that all of you work together to convince the world that there are indeed two peoples and two nations in Cyprus, the Greeks and the Turks! The moment you all manage to achieve the proving of your very sophisticated theory; they will immediately be left with 37% of Cyprus in their hands, and you with only a Greek flag to roll around your neck and go to the football stadium to watch Apoel or Anorthosis!

Such a political moron you are!

I'm also in agreement with the need to refrain from calling everyone with a logical theory no matter how far it is from our own opinions as a moron (myself included in this)

After a lot of thought during my time on this forum for what its worth I've changed my opinions on the unification that i'd like to see for cyprus which i could have the clear head and conscience to vote for.

THe VP's of the TC community have helped me understand that a bi-communal bi-zonal federation will not work out. I believe VP and his colleagues (Zan, Mrfromng and BigOz) when they say they represent a lrge chunk of the TC community and do not think a federation would work out with individuals requesting unreasonable caveats in every possible paragraph in a new constitution.

I think now that for me (again for what its worth) the only solution can be one republic, one person, one vote.

Personally i believe the risks in signng a federation far outweigh the risks of waiting around for a republic solution and as far as my property is concerned I will apply to the ECHR and try to gain compensation for it while not giving up my right to return to it.

I guess i need to thank vp and Co for this.

My pleasure DT, its just that you will have to wait around for a very very long time for anything to change so long that you maynot even see it, unless you rethink and agree division for land, otherwise we will push for what we want and you can like Kifeas and Piratis wait for that swing in power.

[DT.]

Yeah …right? You found the perfect cure to all our ailments, Epsilon!

Yeah! Let’s all take the shining path that you point us towards!

I suppose your zero political IQ doesn’t allow you to understand that there is a far better chance that the TCs will convince the rest of the world to allow them a recognized state in the 37% of Cyprus; than there is a chance to convince even one single person outside Greece or Cyprus of the validity of your theories, especially those about a non-existing Cypriot nation, but only Greeks and Turks. Such a political moron you are, that you do not even realize or know that in fact this is precisely the Turkish thesis and argument on the basis of which they are hoping to legitimize and legalize partition, and the only reason they haven’t succeed so far is because the international community doesn’t favor or accept such an approach.

Go and join the ranks of the Turkish kemalists, the neo-ottoman pan-touranists, the deep-state, the Generals of the TA and the Denktash followers in the north; so that all of you work together to convince the world that there are indeed two peoples and two nations in Cyprus, the Greeks and the Turks! The moment you all manage to achieve the proving of your very sophisticated theory; they will immediately be left with 37% of Cyprus in their hands, and you with only a Greek flag to roll around your neck and go to the football stadium to watch Apoel or Anorthosis!

Such a political moron you are!

I'm also in agreement with the need to refrain from calling everyone with a logical theory no matter how far it is from our own opinions as a moron (myself included in this)

After a lot of thought during my time on this forum for what its worth I've changed my opinions on the unification that i'd like to see for cyprus which i could have the clear head and conscience to vote for.

THe VP's of the TC community have helped me understand that a bi-communal bi-zonal federation will not work out. I believe VP and his colleagues (Zan, Mrfromng and BigOz) when they say they represent a lrge chunk of the TC community and do not think a federation would work out with individuals requesting unreasonable caveats in every possible paragraph in a new constitution.

I think now that for me (again for what its worth) the only solution can be one republic, one person, one vote.

Personally i believe the risks in signng a federation far outweigh the risks of waiting around for a republic solution and as far as my property is concerned I will apply to the ECHR and try to gain compensation for it while not giving up my right to return to it.

I guess i need to thank vp and Co for this.

My pleasure DT, its just that you will have to wait around for a very very long time for anything to change so long that you maynot even see it, unless you rethink and agree division for land, otherwise we will push for what we want and you can like Kifeas and Piratis wait for that swing in power.

the only thing is VP that i wait in a legally recognised republic and you wait in an international anomaly.

[Viewpoint]

Yeah …right? You found the perfect cure to all our ailments, Epsilon!

Yeah! Let’s all take the shining path that you point us towards!

I suppose your zero political IQ doesn’t allow you to understand that there is a far better chance that the TCs will convince the rest of the world to allow them a recognized state in the 37% of Cyprus; than there is a chance to convince even one single person outside Greece or Cyprus of the validity of your theories, especially those about a non-existing Cypriot nation, but only Greeks and Turks. Such a political moron you are, that you do not even realize or know that in fact this is precisely the Turkish thesis and argument on the basis of which they are hoping to legitimize and legalize partition, and the only reason they haven’t succeed so far is because the international community doesn’t favor or accept such an approach.

Go and join the ranks of the Turkish kemalists, the neo-ottoman pan-touranists, the deep-state, the Generals of the TA and the Denktash followers in the north; so that all of you work together to convince the world that there are indeed two peoples and two nations in Cyprus, the Greeks and the Turks! The moment you all manage to achieve the proving of your very sophisticated theory; they will immediately be left with 37% of Cyprus in their hands, and you with only a Greek flag to roll around your neck and go to the football stadium to watch Apoel or Anorthosis!

Such a political moron you are!

I'm also in agreement with the need to refrain from calling everyone with a logical theory no matter how far it is from our own opinions as a moron (myself included in this)

After a lot of thought during my time on this forum for what its worth I've changed my opinions on the unification that i'd like to see for cyprus which i could have the clear head and conscience to vote for.

THe VP's of the TC community have helped me understand that a bi-communal bi-zonal federation will not work out. I believe VP and his colleagues (Zan, Mrfromng and BigOz) when they say they represent a lrge chunk of the TC community and do not think a federation would work out with individuals requesting unreasonable caveats in every possible paragraph in a new constitution.

I think now that for me (again for what its worth) the only solution can be one republic, one person, one vote.

Personally i believe the risks in signng a federation far outweigh the risks of waiting around for a republic solution and as far as my property is concerned I will apply to the ECHR and try to gain compensation for it while not giving up my right to return to it.

I guess i need to thank vp and Co for this.

My pleasure DT, its just that you will have to wait around for a very very long time for anything to change so long that you maynot even see it, unless you rethink and agree division for land, otherwise we will push for what we want and you can like Kifeas and Piratis wait for that swing in power.

the only thing is VP that i wait in a legally recognised republic and you wait in an international anomaly.

Even that is preferred to uniting with GCs where there would no safeguards to ensure that we have a say in our future and that no loop holes are left where GC dominate the wgole island.

Unless such a plan can be found we will live and die debating the Cyprus issue.

[EPSILON]

EPSILON I think that under your theory there no such peaple like Americans, Canadians , Australians, or New Zealanders because there are no such nations!
Cyprus IS a nation and the inhabitants of this nation are CYPRIOTS not Greeks or Turks or WHATEVER!
Yes they have an ethnic background but they also have their own uniqie culture!
If you dont consider yourself a Cypriot then I suggest you should move to another place ...

Cyprus is a UNIQUE nation having various people with different etchnic backgrounds!
Yes the Cyprus problem is between us Cypriots and Turkey but your thoughts atr just their thoughts also!

WELCOME ON BOARD . We are following your ideas for 40 years and we are getting worst and worst results. Your theory about Cyprus nation may could help in case the problem was between GCs and TCs.But unfortunately the problem is with Turkey- Your theories guided the interntional community to move from the clear position of an invasion/occupation problem to closer thesis of Turks.May be you will realise what we are doing wrong (the GCs) in the next 40 years an particularly if we sign any of these clever solution proposals may be you and me will demostrate for the rights of Greek minority in Cyprus.

I can only understand people supporting any solution offered to us unil now in case they are either have huge property in North and put this over the futue of the Island or they consider Turks stupids and by the famous commercial clever Greeks will conrol the Island again or worst my mutual cooperation of labors in South/North it wil be a united and free country.

The last two, if some of you thing this way , you make a big mistake- you are not dealling with pure/uneducated TCs you are dealling with a huge country of 80million people-There i no way for a fair solution, presently. Just stop negotiating and eturn the problem to its initial base-INVASION/OCCUPATION

think its far too late to turn the principles of the discusison back to invasion/occupation now.

Allow me to say is not far too late but is difficult. At least I feel that you recognize the error we made. Is difficult matbe very difficult but not impossible/ If we just stuck on Interntional , UN and EU laws then maybe Int community will come in a difficult position to reject our points.

[EPSILON]

Now and in order to say something not related to our main subject I will try to translate a joke I heard tonight.

An Amercan turist arrived in Ahens airport and took a taxi to Athens.

Passing through he saw a normal Greek house and he asked the taxi driver "How long it takes in Greece to build such a house?" The taxi driver replied to him "about 18 months".The American said "this is very strange, in New York we can build a similar house in 8 months"

5 minutes later they passed outside the Greek telecommunications building , somehow big one, and the American asked again "and how long you need in Greece to finish such a buildng?" The taxi driver said "about three years" The American said "very, very strange , in New York we can do it in only one year"

The taxi driver started to feel very nervus with the American and when afterwards they were passing under Acropolis and American asked "What a bautiful building, how long you need to build such a thing in Greece?" the taxi driver said "I do not know, this morning when i passed again from here this building was not there!!!!"

[Beth_Josephine]

Right, I really couldn't be asked to read a full thread with babel cr@p from Epilson. I take it he is always like this?

There will never be a straight or decent answer from any TC's or GC's as they both have their own stories and unfortunately a majority tend to forget that both sides are not innocent.

Yes, Turkey broke a contract sign in the 60's, they proved this with 1974 but this country has always been a subject for domination. I think Turkey and Greece need to take their fingers out the honey pot and let the Island speak for it's self (this maybe a bad idea though).

P.S. As fort he pregnancy, I may rethink about posting ALOT around my due date

[bigOz]

There i no way for a fair solution, presently. Just stop negotiating and eturn the problem to its initial base-INVASION/OCCUPATION

What a typical GC conclusion! "Cyprus problem initially started with the invasion in 1974!"

OK you have just received the first prize in this year's first ever "Cyprus Comedy Awards". I ask all those GCs who have more sense to have a look at what this joker has been preaching in his posts and then tell me if they still do not understand why TCs cannot trust the GCs at this time. Remember, this fellow is not unique, there are many in the South who think like him.

[MR-from-NG]

There i no way for a fair solution, presently. Just stop negotiating and eturn the problem to its initial base-INVASION/OCCUPATION

What a typical GC conclusion! "Cyprus problem initially started with the invasion in 1974!"

OK you have just received the first prize in this year's first ever "Cyprus Comedy Awards". I ask all those GCs who have more sense to have a look at what this joker has been preaching in his posts and then tell me if they still do not understand why TCs cannot trust the GCs at this time. Remember, this fellow is not unique, there are many in the South who think like him.

Sorry bigOz, I have to disagree with your "there are many in the South who think like him" theory. I would argue that everybody, without exception think like him in the South.