Rain wrote:No EPSILON Is not like that, with continuously saying Tc’s are a minority and Gc’ are the majority create a situation that eventually leads to a permanent partition of the country. At the end all Tc’s will say the hell with the RoC, we are a majority in the TRNC am I wrong??
May be you are right , however during the whole period of Cyprus problem the solution discussions and plans for settlement , after July 74, was never resulted a case where the offered solution was ,for GCs , better than he today's situation.
Theories saying different thinks are just GCs leadership propaganda in order for them to show that they suceeded something in this regard.
Several Gcs , even today, wondering why Turkish side not accepting (Except Annan plan, which of course was pending to be apply in practice by Turkey) the proposals of solutions at the time all proposals were worst than the today's situation fo GCS.
The reply is that
1)The consider that they have the military power
2)Gcs made the huge mistake to start negotiations before the fact of invasion/occupation be cleared/solved- Do you remember the position of international community about Cyprus problem the first 2-3 years after 1974?Th position was clear- Turkish army to withdraw from Cyprus.
GCs leasership, instead to continue to present the problem as an invasion/occupation case, started to negotiate for other solutions-As from this point the int community slowly slowly moved to other positions, closer to Turkish theory of the case.
3)Gcs leadership was and still hide from GCs a very important point- There was and there is not any negotiation with the TCs community- the negotiations is betwen ROC and Turkish occupation forces.No deal can be approved by TCs community unless same be authorised by the Turkey's generals.
Considering all above Turkish side will not accept any plan for solution to be actaully apply unless same is give them the 100% of their requiements and plans.
What I mean here is that , even Annan plan, was giving them the 95 per cent of what they want in practice they would create poblems for he rest 5 per cent.
The historical time is not good for the Hellenism to negotiate a solution-any result of negotiation will guide to a worst situation for GCs than today.
The problem of Cyprus from Turkey's view has nothing to do with Tcs or their safety.Tukey is aproaching Aegean sea, Thrake, Cyprus as one and same target.
They found the opportunity in 1974 to atack the first part of heir target, Cyprus.
When I say opportunity I mean the period where the Greeks in general political or economical situation was in problem.All theoritical or actual attacks of Turkey against Hellenism happen in similar periods-ALWAYS-
When therefore I repeatetly refer TCs as minority I do not have in mind to under estimate the value as human of the individual Tcs people. I have in mind to express my personal opinion that we, the Greek side , are working in the wrong direction for many years.
They convisted us that , because some fanatics in 1974 destroyed Cyprus and gave excuss to Turkey to invate all the GCs prohibited to say that they are Greeks because immidiatetly they consider us followers of these fanatics. They used the same reason to convist us that Tcs are our brothers/ My brother is not cooperating with a foreign army for 40 years against my country.
They wake up one morning in 1960 and they asked us to love a flag which was not ours but imposed to us .We were a pure Greek population occupied by British and when British left they asked us , suddenly, to ask a minority about the time we are allowed to go to toilet. It was clear, because of the unfair provisions of that treaty that a part of the majority would request changes. But instead our leadership to understand immdly the game they decided to proceed with celebrations about the new flag and the new fake state.
The problem is that GCs even today after 40 years , I trully believe this, they do not know what they want as a solution.
This is my point which guide some of you to consider me as a fanatic. I am trying to explain that we, the GCs must clear our status as people, Ethnicity, culture and when we clear this in our mind then to proceed and think what solution we want.
We can not be Greeks, Greek Cypriots, Cypriots, TCs brothers and sisters, We must once again find our rutes, to teach our childs our correct language an not the bastard language we still have today (some progress done) with Turkish, Latin, Egyptian and Mongolian prounasation.
Ou childs must speak the language in which they can write and present themelves as educated people.Not after 7 years in a university , particularly in UK, to not be able to express a correct sentence in their own language.
We must say to ourselves that there is not a Cyprus nation. there was never such a thing. And finally yes we are the majority in the Island and any solution proposal must take into account this real fact. It is rediculus to speak and negotiate the right of the invasion forces to stay and guarantee!!!the whole Island and the rights of shelters and not to demand the full rights of the majority
Wll I thing this was the longer post have ever made
There are still some programs going on from both sides. Now that people can travel freely throught the border, its easier to attend bi-communal activities. They are usually given tasks to carry out as a teem and as an individual basis. Some people also bring history books from both sides to see and compare the level of distortion and many people learn a big deal about their real history.
