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HOW DO TURKISH CYPRIOTS SEE GREEK CYPRIOTS?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Kifeas » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:52 pm

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I am a TC as well and I do not want the Turkish army to leave until we find a comprehensive solution, thats their role, need I remind you that the last attempted was resoundingly rejected by the GCs not us.

Do you prefer to be Greekified rather than Turkified? Why do you fear Turkey thats where you orginate from, maybe you are in denial? you seem to forget that its is the GCs that rejected sharing the island with you shouldnt you start asking them a few probing questions about how GCs view us in a united Cyprus and ask for safeguards that will ensure your community is not excluded from running your country. Your only aim so far has been to run down the TRNC and the Turkish army, what have you go to say about what you want for your community?


She is definitely not a hypocrite and /or a psycho and /or a perverted nationalist like you, VP! :wink:


I could so easily call a few names back that you would not like but instead I will ask you why you choose to ignore my concerns and how you arrived at the above conclusions.



I would very much pay attention to the concerns of gizzy and all those TCs like her, and even meet them to a degree higher than what they may feel necessary or adequate, than waste my time with a one-sided fanatic like you.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:Brother Kifeas, you too have been cleansed!


How can I help you, "Get Real?"
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:57 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I am a TC as well and I do not want the Turkish army to leave until we find a comprehensive solution, thats their role, need I remind you that the last attempted was resoundingly rejected by the GCs not us.

Do you prefer to be Greekified rather than Turkified? Why do you fear Turkey thats where you orginate from, maybe you are in denial? you seem to forget that its is the GCs that rejected sharing the island with you shouldnt you start asking them a few probing questions about how GCs view us in a united Cyprus and ask for safeguards that will ensure your community is not excluded from running your country. Your only aim so far has been to run down the TRNC and the Turkish army, what have you go to say about what you want for your community?


She is definitely not a hypocrite and /or a psycho and /or a perverted nationalist like you, VP! :wink:


I could so easily call a few names back that you would not like but instead I will ask you why you choose to ignore my concerns and how you arrived at the above conclusions.



I would very much pay attention to the concerns of gizzy and all those TCs like her, and even meet them to a degree higher than what they may feel necessary or adequate, than waste my time with a one sided fanatic like you.


I am a product of your own aggression and mentality gizzy is young she has a lot to learn expose her to GC mentality and the tide will turn you are your own worst enemy. You are the GC version of me so its really the pot calling the kettle black.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:59 pm

Kifeas wrote:
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Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I am a TC as well and I do not want the Turkish army to leave until we find a comprehensive solution, thats their role, need I remind you that the last attempted was resoundingly rejected by the GCs not us.

Do you prefer to be Greekified rather than Turkified? Why do you fear Turkey thats where you orginate from, maybe you are in denial? you seem to forget that its is the GCs that rejected sharing the island with you shouldnt you start asking them a few probing questions about how GCs view us in a united Cyprus and ask for safeguards that will ensure your community is not excluded from running your country. Your only aim so far has been to run down the TRNC and the Turkish army, what have you go to say about what you want for your community?


She is definitely not a hypocrite and /or a psycho and /or a perverted nationalist like you, VP! :wink:


I could so easily call a few names back that you would not like but instead I will ask you why you choose to ignore my concerns and how you arrived at the above conclusions.



I would very much pay attention to the concerns of gizzy and all those TCs like her, and even meet them to a degree higher than what they may feel necessary or adequate, than waste my time with a one-sided fanatic like you.


Kifeas, I can vouch for birkibrisli as I met him in Australia, Kikapus sounds genuine, gizzy would be a waste of time. It is a FAKE.
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Postby gizzy » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:06 am

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Bravo and Thank you!!! Thats the realistic approach!!! People dont realize Turkey is meant to leave the island according to the agreement he made. Sooner or later, there will have to be a solution and now is the convenient time. Turkey is breaking international law by forming "artificial population" in the north and am sure we all know this. Each day we are being "turkified" more and more. If this operation goes on and on, one day we will wake up and sea nothing left of our Cypriotness and that day will be too late for us to realize we did nothing to stop this from happening....


Gizzy, you are a TC that -unlike some others in this forum and out there, doesn’t seem to be “concerned” or “afraid” of your community being dominated, assimilated and eventually lost among a GC majority, should the two communities come together in a re-unified Cyprus. Why is that? I personally do not believe or accept that the GC community or any of its leadership has any such ambition or objective, nor that is that easy should there was one, however, being a TC yourself, what makes you so confident that this will not be the case?


Before the british came, we used to live side by side and there used to be no problems. Perhaps again there were some *retards who used to do stupid things but in general things were ok. There was no "assimilation" problem by then.There are many TCs living abroad and especially UK. Why arent they scared of being assimilated by the british?

In the future, I would not make it a problem if any of my child married a person from another country. Why? The reality is globalization is hapenning and there is nothing to stop this. However we can learn to cope with it. Things are not the same as the past now and the world is changing and we have to be flexible in order to cope with it.

Morover whether some people like it or not, it is scientifically proven fact that genetically TC and GC are closer to each other than to Greece and Turkey! Therefore there had been many mixings in the past and it shouldnt be a concern now and there is no difference between a turkish speaking cypriot or a greek speaking cypriot genetically!!! I am doing genetics and I reseached a great deal on these evidence which I can share on a seperate thread. There wre some articles on this in the past on the TC newspaper, I think it was the Yenidüzen who puplished it. Some people can choose to mix the GC while some dont. However this shouldnt be called as "assimilation" coz we are the same people anyway. There will always be greek and turkish speaking cypriots on the island.

In the past I have taken part in some "conflict resolution" programs in Pyla, Nicosia and I actively met many GC youth. Some of them were "greek nationalists" and some of them were just like me. I think we share the same "Cypriot" culture and we are the same people of the same island except some of us are "artificially injected" some "fake" nationalism. The reality is, we are all cypriots and if you still think that you are "greek" and "turkish" fully, I suggest you take a blood test and see it yourself... It costs like 300-400 dollars in USA , am not sure how much it costs in cyprus....
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:06 am

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I am a product of your own aggression and mentality gizzy is young she has a lot to learn expose her to GC mentality and the tide will turn you are your own worst enemy. You are the GC version of me so its really the pot calling the kettle black.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Really? Yeah! You are a product of my own ...aggression! I tell you whose product you are, but let's live it for another occasion!

PS: I bet it hasn't been long ago since you have been singing the ..."how happy to say I am a Turk" and the "one Turk equals the whole world" slogans in the school yard, and listening and memorising the melodramatic preaching of your Ataturk the II, Rauf bey!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:08 am

Kifeas wrote:
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I am a product of your own aggression and mentality gizzy is young she has a lot to learn expose her to GC mentality and the tide will turn you are your own worst enemy. You are the GC version of me so its really the pot calling the kettle black.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Really? Yeah! You are a product of my own ...aggression! I tell you whose product you are, but let's live it for another occasion!

PS: I bet it hasn't been long ago since you have been singing the ..."how happy to say I am a Turk" and the "one Turk equals the whole world" slogans in the school yard, and listening and memorising the melodramatic preaching of your Ataturk the II, Rauf bey!


I was educated abroad.
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:11 am

I am a product of your own aggression and mentality gizzy is young she has a lot to learn expose her to GC mentality and the tide will turn you are your own worst enemy. You are the GC version of me so its really the pot calling the kettle black.


VP, your a classic product of Turkish dictatorship society - an ignorant manipulative ultra-nationalist.
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Postby gizzy » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:19 am

For those who are willing to take a DNA test, there are special "ethnicity" tests that can me done easily. All you have to do is to pop-into speacial reasearch center and there you can easily learn your ancestral DNA. I am not sure where they have such facilities in Cpyrus.
However its a sensitive issue and some people later on have "idendity problems" so make sure you can cope with the results before taking the test....
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:23 am

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
I am a product of your own aggression and mentality gizzy is young she has a lot to learn expose her to GC mentality and the tide will turn you are your own worst enemy. You are the GC version of me so its really the pot calling the kettle black.


VP, your a classic product of Turkish dictatorship society - an ignorant manipulative ultra-nationalist.


Snake or crane or whatever else! I do not need anyone to second me –set aside you, especially when dealing with VP!
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