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HOW DO TURKISH CYPRIOTS SEE GREEK CYPRIOTS?

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Postby T_C » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:23 pm

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Postby bigOz » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:06 pm

I think she is already in labour after your last post!Image

The chart you refer to also show Sumerians, Egyptians, Minoans, Hitites long before Mycenaean! Allow me to embarrass you again! This is a quote from a very reputable source:
http://www.unr.edu/sb204/geology/civilztn.html
Metallurgy from Asia Minor reached Cyprus about 2600 B.C. The peoples of Anatolia (now Turkey) migrated west on favorable sea currents in the eastern Mediterranean. The people of Crete developed an industry based on copper, giving the copper miners of Cyprus an incentive to expand their mines. Egyptians traded fabrics and gold for copper from Cyprus. Mycenaean settled near the copper deposit of Skouriotissa on Cyprus. This deposit was rediscovered by Charles Gunther and mined again in modern times.

The above is not the end either! From: http://www.crystalinks.com/hittites.html
The "Treaty of Kadesh", one of the oldest completely surviving treaties in history, fixed their mutual boundaries in Canaan, and was signed in the 21st year of Rameses (c. 1258 BC).

Hattusili's son, Tudhaliya IV, was the last strong Hittite king able to keep the Assyrians out of Syria and even temporarily annex the island of Cyprus. The very last king, Suppiluliuma II also managed to win some victories, including a naval battle against the Sea Peoples off the coast of Cyprus. But it was too late.

The Sea Peoples had already begun their push down the Mediterranean coastline, starting from the Aegean, and continuing all the way to Philistia -- taking Cilicia and Cyprus away from the Hittites en route and cutting off their coveted trade routes. This left the Hittite homelands vulnerable to attack from all directions, and Hattusa was burnt to the ground sometime around 1180 BC following a combined onslaught from Gasgas, Bryges and Luwians. The Hittite Empire thus vanished from the historical record.

Here is another one from British archeologists:
http://www.arcl.ed.ac.uk/arch/lemba/LARC_wcs99.html
As a result of our 1976-1996 excavation programme, we have been able to refine the chronology of much prehistoric Cypriot pottery. With this enhanced chronological tool to hand, we sytematically re-surveyed 25 key sites to date them more precisely than had been possible and to define intra-site variation, settlement drift patterns amongst cluster formations and settlement hierarchies. On a macro-scale, our goal is to establish the nature of relations between and changing configurations of sedentary occupations particularly in the mid-3rd millennium BC when Anatolian influence starts to predominate in the Cypriot archaeological record. Together with data from other archaeological surveys, the research will provide the first comprehensive overview of prehistoric settlement systems in western Cyprus. We will evaluate evident contemporary differences between sites in distinct ecological zones emphasizing the dynamic and polysemous nature of the western Erimi Culture.

I have not even started with the Egyptians and the rest and can go on for the next 10 pages! But what's the point? Lets come back to earth and think about who is living in Cyprus now, and how we are going to solve the deadlock. we are talking about now - you are still going on about...??? To be honest, I do not even know what you are going on about! :roll:
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:20 pm

western Erimi Culture.[/quote]
But what's the point? Lets come back to earth and think about who is living in Cyprus now, and how we are going to solve the deadlock. we are talking about now - you are still going on about...??? To be honest, I do not even know what you are going on about! :roll:[/quote]

The main majority of Cyprus citizens are of Greek origin (80 per cent) and a small minority of 18 per cent of Turkish origin or related to this origin who, the last, by help of a foreign invason Army request to GOVERN the Islnd on 50/50 basis AND IN ADITION WITH THE GURANTEE OF MAINLAND TURKEY-ARE YOU LOOKING FOR STUPIDS? 40 YEARS NOW WE HAVE SOME IN THE GCS LEADERSHIP

This is what we are speaking today.

Meantime why you mix up nationalities passed from Cyprus? What is count is which culture and civilization established close relation with the local people and finally became the local culture and civilization.

on basis our ideas all countries in the World could not be of what they are today because som other nations passed through the area.

STOP NEGOTIATING WITH THE INVASION FORCES - NO FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE FUNNY STATE IN NORTH UNTIL THE LAST TURKISH SOLDIER LIEVE THE ISLAND AND THE MAJORITY OBTAIN ITS FULL RIGHTS.
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Postby bigOz » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:36 pm

Shut the F*ck up you idiot! All you do is make idle noise! Why don't you pick up your gun and come to get rid of the Turkish army yourself then?

Now hear this:
NO TURKISH SOLDIER WILL LEAVE THE ISLAND UNTIL A SETTLEMENT THAT SECURES THE SAFETY OF TCs IS REACHED!

Without that guarnteed safety, do not expect any Turkish soldiers departure! It has already been agreed that Turkish soldiers will leave once a settlement is reached... So carry on barking - you do not scare anyone! :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:47 pm

Beth_Josephine wrote:You may actually find that the Greeks were not the first or second to occupy Cyprus as a whole. The Romans were, when Anthoney gave Cyprus to Cleopatra as a gift, therefore, Egyptions were the second, then the Persians, then Macedonia (if I am correct) stated in history, if we are going a factl route.

But Greece has the most prodiminant history on this island, not meaning it is actually Greek, Cyprus is it's own country and that is the end of it.

Well I say anyhow.


The Roman Empire??? (27 BC – 476 AD)

Mark Antony??? (83 BC – 30 BC)

Think again! :)
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:56 pm

bigOz wrote:Shut the F*ck up you idiot! All you do is make idle noise! Why don't you pick up your gun and come to get rid of the Turkish army yourself then?

Now hear this:
NO TURKISH SOLDIER WILL LEAVE THE ISLAND UNTIL A SETTLEMENT THAT SECURES THE SAFETY OF TCs IS REACHED!

Without that guarnteed safety, do not expect any Turkish soldiers departure! It has already been agreed that Turkish soldiers will leave once a settlement is reached... So carry on barking - you do not scare anyone! :roll:


IN SUCH A CASE MY RIEND MY POSITION REMAINS THE SAME. GCS LEADERSHIP TO NOT NEGOTIATE AT ALL- YOUR FANNY STATE TO REMAIN AS IT IS - THIS IS MUCH BETTER SOLUTION THAN THE WHOLE ISLAND BECAME UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF TURKEY AS IS ALWAYS PROVIDED BY ANNAN AND OTHER STUPID PLANS . GCS LOST THEIR NEGOTIATION POINTS AS FROM THE TIME THEY MOVED FROM THE CLEAR POSITION THAT CYPRUS PROBLEM IS A CASE OF AN INVASION/OCCUPATION AND NOTHING MORE.THIS STORY MUST BE ENDED AND THE INT COMMUNITY MUST REPLY ON THE CLEAR FACT THAT NO NEW STATE CAN BE ESTABLISHED BY THE FORCE OF ARMS- BASIC INT LAW-LETS SEE THEN UN OR EU OR YOU TO CHANGE THE LAW- YOU WILL WAIT 1000YEARS BUT THE LAND OFFICIALLY WLL REMAIN PROPERTY OF THE ROC.

I WAS TRIED BUT I COULD NOT FIND ANY POINT WHERE THE ANNAN PLAN WAS BETTER THAN THE TODAY'S SITUTION. TODAY TURKEY UNLAWFULL OCCUPY A PART OF CYPRUS , ANNAN PLAN WAS MAKING THIS OCCUPATION OFFICIAL AND LAWFULL AND IN ADDITION IT WAS GIVING TO TURKEY A LAWFULL AND OFFICIAL CONTROL OVER ALL THE ISLAND.

LETS SEE WHO IS THIS GCS LEADER WHO WILL FINALLY PUT HIS SIGNATURE FOR A SOLUTION WHICH FOR GCS IS WORST OF WHAT THEY HAVE TODAY- FUTURE WILL SHOW
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Postby bigOz » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Beth_Josephine wrote:You may actually find that the Greeks were not the first or second to occupy Cyprus as a whole. The Romans were, when Anthoney gave Cyprus to Cleopatra as a gift, therefore, Egyptions were the second, then the Persians, then Macedonia (if I am correct) stated in history, if we are going a factl route.

But Greece has the most prodiminant history on this island, not meaning it is actually Greek, Cyprus is it's own country and that is the end of it.

Well I say anyhow.


The Roman Empire??? (27 BC – 476 AD)

Mark Antony??? (83 BC – 30 BC)

Think again! :)

Cleopatra was nice though! :lol:
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:00 pm

EPSILON wrote:
bigOz wrote:Shut the F*ck up you idiot! All you do is make idle noise! Why don't you pick up your gun and come to get rid of the Turkish army yourself then?

Now hear this:
NO TURKISH SOLDIER WILL LEAVE THE ISLAND UNTIL A SETTLEMENT THAT SECURES THE SAFETY OF TCs IS REACHED!

Without that guarnteed safety, do not expect any Turkish soldiers departure! It has already been agreed that Turkish soldiers will leave once a settlement is reached... So carry on barking - you do not scare anyone! :roll:


IN SUCH A CASE MY RIEND MY POSITION REMAINS THE SAME. GCS LEADERSHIP TO NOT NEGOTIATE AT ALL- YOUR FANNY STATE TO REMAIN AS IT IS - THIS IS MUCH BETTER SOLUTION THAN THE WHOLE ISLAND BECAME UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF TURKEY AS IS ALWAYS PROVIDED BY ANNAN AND OTHER STUPID PLANS . GCS LOST THEIR NEGOTIATION POINTS AS FROM THE TIME THEY MOVED FROM THE CLEAR POSITION THAT CYPRUS PROBLEM IS A CASE OF AN INVASION/OCCUPATION AND NOTHING MORE.THIS STORY MUST BE ENDED AND THE INT COMMUNITY MUST REPLY ON THE CLEAR FACT THAT NO NEW STATE CAN BE ESTABLISHED BY THE FORCE OF ARMS- BASIC INT LAW-LETS SEE THEN UN OR EU OR YOU TO CHANGE THE LAW- YOU WILL WAIT 1000YEARS BUT THE LAND OFFICIALLY WLL REMAIN PROPERTY OF THE ROC.

I WAS TRIED BUT I COULD NOT FIND ANY POINT WHERE THE ANNAN PLAN WAS BETTER THAN THE TODAY'S SITUTION. TODAY TURKEY UNLAWFULL OCCUPY A PART OF CYPRUS , ANNAN PLAN WAS MAKING THIS OCCUPATION OFFICIAL AND LAWFULL AND IN ADDITION IT WAS GIVING TO TURKEY A LAWFULL AND OFFICIAL CONTROL OVER ALL THE ISLAND.



LETS SEE WHO IS THIS GCS LEADER WHO WILL FINALLY PUT HIS SIGNATURE FOR A SOLUTION WHICH FOR GCS IS WORST OF WHAT THEY HAVE TODAY- FUTURE WILL SHOW


PS:AS FOR THE FIRST LINE OF YOUR POST- YOU SEEM VERY SHORT TO TEL ME SHUT UP- TOO SHORT AND TOO TURK.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:01 pm

bigOz wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Beth_Josephine wrote:You may actually find that the Greeks were not the first or second to occupy Cyprus as a whole. The Romans were, when Anthoney gave Cyprus to Cleopatra as a gift, therefore, Egyptions were the second, then the Persians, then Macedonia (if I am correct) stated in history, if we are going a factl route.

But Greece has the most prodiminant history on this island, not meaning it is actually Greek, Cyprus is it's own country and that is the end of it.

Well I say anyhow.


The Roman Empire??? (27 BC – 476 AD)

Mark Antony??? (83 BC – 30 BC)

Think again! :)

Cleopatra was nice though! :lol:

I saw a documentary that claimed Cleopatra was ugly and went on about all sorts of evidence at how she tried to make herself seem pretty for future generations etc by getting slaves to create false masks/statues of "herself" etc! :lol:

I guess we'll never know... :)
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Postby LENA » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:06 pm

DT. wrote:BTW congrats on the pregnancy. (my wife's 36 weeks) When you get towards the end come back into the cyprus problem section and a couple of rounds with zan, Bir, pyro andGet Real and you'll be on your way to labour. Best way of inducing it that i know off.


Congratulation for your wife pregnancy DT...by the way...can you let your wife post few things here? :wink:
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