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[MR-from-NG]

gizzy, heres a serious question. Do you spit or do you swallow?

[DT.]

gizzy, heres a serious question. Do you spit or do you swallow?

you're turning into a clown.

[zan]

I know what, why don't we Tcs spend the rest of our lives chasing our shadows in court rooms while the GCs use the whole of the island to get richer. Then we can even ask them to pay our fair to Turkey. I am sure that they will be more than willing to do that for us at least.


The Zurick agreement was there for a reason and it is still needed. There will not be an agreement without a simular gaurantee. You are talking crap gizzy and you know it.

I never said we dont need a guarantee!! thats your own imagination.

*hmmm you are right actually...we should all forget about the GCs, ignore the south part of the island and accept TAKSIM as the best solution!!! lets do that.... OMG, we are slavedd!! what the hell are we doing on the cyprus forum? we should all be on north cyprus forum!! the pirates ruleee, we dont need to talk with these GCs, we are better off on our own!!!....*sarcasm*

Actually I now I started wondering....If you guys against "mutual solution" why are you here discussing things with the GCs??? To "oppress" people like me who are here to form discussions?

And you are letting your imagination run away with you. Can I ask how long you have been reading this forum and why you have only just started posting.

[MR-from-NG]

gizzy, heres a serious question. Do you spit or do you swallow?

you're turning into a clown.

One of many on the forum DT except this clown has the luxury of time, possession and the security of 40.000 Mehmetcik and 70.000.000 cousins on mainland. I guess that gives us a sense of security and confidence to clown around.

I doubt very much you have the will nor the desire to do any clowning. When was the last time you had a good laugh?

[Viewpoint]

gizzy

Hehe...its true, TC teens interest are things that will make them look more "havalı" XD ... How else do they learn things about GC if they dont learn it at school? You said it yourself, they interest in how to look better, what car to get.... Logicly they have no interest in "history" in their everyday life and so they wouldnt go and research. They are meant to study the "Vehbi Zeki Serter" history books at school and they have to pass it and thts all they know about history. They dont need to be "active haters" and to display their hatret to know that they are "hating". I know my own friends, they have great precudice towards GC just based on the matters they were thought at shcool. I dont want our people to be brainwashed. We should make them read "the true" history, not the distorted.

You must have some very opinated friends, the TC youth dont care about GCs or the south, they cant even maintain a conversation about whats going on for 10 minutes with saying this is boring and walking off. They learn from what their family tell them, the daily developments, whats protrayed on TV and in newspapers and interacting with the south.

Do you know the truth about your history gizzy and where did you learn it? I will repeat it again if you are a product of our education system what makes you so special? there are many TC children around who have no bad feelings or hate against GCs my children included, they even call a good friend of mine uncle. The GCs generate their own hate and if you continue posting and try to ask more in depth questions of the GC as to how they see our role in a united Cyprus rather than opting to inflame TCs which many GCs do on here you will soon understand the other side to the Cypriots who live in south Cyprus.

Could you kindly answer my original question about how you see the education system in the south if they are producing thugs that can go around beating up 12yo and getting away with it?

Oh ok...so we should all say "Yarabbi şükür" and sit? No. If there are things that are wrong and "unhumane" then I believe we should all to something about it. I would like to find a job at Cyprus since its my home and I have my family there. People are migrating away from Cyprus and its our own fault. I refure to just sit and watch this happening...

You can go find a job in the south as you feel comfortable with that issue but my advise would be to learn greek as soon as possible or you will have a very slim chance as it is a GC state where the majority are GCs, it will also help you understand how it would be living in a unified Cyprus.

You have obviously not been exposed to the GC mentality and I recommend you ask in depth questions of GCs and how they view the issues of security, power sharing, refugees, property etc etc...I would also like to hear what you think as a young TC this will help us all see where you exactly stand and if you will challenge anything the GCs put forward.

We have been trying to do something since 1960....we are in a better situation now than we have ever been, do you pefer the period between 1963 to 1974 or the period which followed. The TCs are not closed to a solution but will not allow GC dominate or control them, dont forget it was the GCs that rejected a UN brokered plan for a comprehensive solution not us.

Well crime rates are low coz perhaps our population is low and other factors also effect it. I already said what I meant by "daily basis", pls dont distort it. I am sure you already aware am "unfonfortable" cause of the visa issue. Why dont you say something about that? If we have good "laws" we should be dealing with that as well. and Whose bread have I spread the honey to? You mean the GC? Sorry but I dont see GCs as the "other side" so there is nothing to discuss on this matter.

You said 5yo girls get raped everyday, are you denying this? hwo you wish to disort it the figures speak from themselves the crime rate is not as you to interpret it.

Visa issue??? please remind.

You are free to see GCs as you wish no one is denying you this but in the same tone you have to allow me the same right.

What I am saying is, obviously is that we make sure we have our alarms set. Its not like am saying increased "no need to security". I know there are some retards* from both sides who will definitly do something stupid and increase the tention. Therefore there should be some increased safety for the protection of all cypriots.

What safe guards "alarms" do you demand to ensure TCs are protected, not excluded from power, not discriminated against, not exploited or reduced to minority status??

The job interview concern>>. I wouldnt be suprized if there are some GC employers that wouldnt accept TC just coz they are the TC.I am totally against this kind of dicrimination. I don think this can be prevented totally and is present in every country including the EU. I can prevent this by talking with my potential "employer" and see if he is professional or a discriminatır. if I believe they are "discriminating" then I will definitly be visiting the "court" so dont worry I wont come "running" to you. I should learn to deal with my problems....

So you will end up in the court everytime you want to pay and water bill and are pushed to the back of the queue or you are not served in a shop because you are a TC? Is this what you see fit for TCs?

You and MANY? How are you so sure its many people who think exactly the same way as you do. I think the past elections showed otherwise. Morover MANY of the TCs already got their "EU passports" and visited many places without visas!! If they dont like it sooo much and dont trust it, why do they enjoying the priveleges? Also if they feel so UNSECURE under EU regulations why are most of the TCs are migrating to the EU countries?

Go ask Tcs what they think of the EU, a body which has promised but not delivered any results losses its crediblity this is normal.

If someone offers you a privilidge will you refuse it? 99% will not but the "RoC" claims to represent all Cypriots so they are forced to provide passports for all their citizens, they can stop them and take the international backlash but they are to clever for this and want to show that they are the sole respresentatives of this island.

So the last bits are basicly saying "I dont care about your decision, you can do whatever you want, am gonna stay like the "pirate" and you are free to be the "slave".... You can still still believe that the other choice is being "slave" but I dont. I think you are totally enjoying being the "pirate" and that you forgot to care about the future generations. These last paragraphs of your shows you have no " real concerns about the future" and you soo called solutions are based on "selfish" matters. You seem to not care about the rest but the truth is no single "pirate" will be left at the end as they will all jump off the ship and swim to the west. If north is to stay as "pirates of the mediterranean" forever, the real TCs will eventually migrate to the west and whats left behind will be the "captains of the ship" such as you, probably still happy coz you will have loads of new "crew" coming from the north (and these new "crew" has been becoming the "pirates" for 30 yeards).............. and I will "congradulationg" these "captains" for their "great solution".......

Id rather be a Pirate than a GC slave, you can do what you wish according to your belief I dont have a problem with this, if you feel that you can live among GCs as a minority feel free to move south tomorrow no one is stopping you.

I love my country the TRNC which I moved back to from the UK and this is where I am at home. I have tried to agree a solution with the GCs, a solution which was put forward by the UN and backed by 90% of the world, I only hope you to have this oppportnity in your life time but when you are once again slapped in the face you will remember VP who told you that these people do not want a solution they have what they want a GC state run by GCs for GCs the rest is all a facade to keep the refugees and world at bay.

[gizzy]

And you are letting your imagination run away with you. Can I ask how long you have been reading this forum and why you have only just started posting.

see thats the problem...Its been only recent that I have been reading the forum and making discussions. You people are agressive to both my ideas and to me in person. Its your right to "critisize" my ideas. I have my own ideas and you have yours. We can discuss these matters like "adults". If you choose to call me "fake" and "insult" me then do you expect me to respect you "evaluations about me?". I have total respect to VP as he hasnt insulted me in person and made mature discussions with me soo far even thought he doesnt agree with me on many things... You on the other had told me: "you talk crap" and "you are fake" and then at the same time expect me to write you reasonable replies? I think you shouldnt....

[MR-from-NG]

And you are letting your imagination run away with you. Can I ask how long you have been reading this forum and why you have only just started posting.

see thats the problem...Its been only recent that I have been reading the forum and making discussions. You people are agressive to both my ideas and to me in person. Its your right to "critisize" my ideas. I have my own ideas and you have yours. We can discuss these matters like "adults". If you choose to call me "fake" and "insult" me then do you expect me to respect you "evaluations about me?". I have total respect to VP as he hasnt insulted me in person and made mature discussions with me soo far even thought he doesnt agree with me on many things... You on the other had told me: "you talk crap" and "you are fake" and then at the same time expect me to write you reasonable replies? I think you shouldnt....

You can carry on with your mature discussions with VP, as for me, I have only one word for you. FAKE.

[Kikapu]

Hello Gizzy,

Few days ago, I had warned you regarding what reactions you would get from the Partitionist, that they will come after you like Hyenas.

I was told by BigOz to wait and see what happens to you, before making such statements, and I had agreed with him to wait for a while.

Well, the Hyenas are here at your feet my friend.

But don't worry. They just show a lot of teeth, but have no real bite in their arguments, and don't worry if they call you a impostor and not a TC. Not so long ago, they would have called you Greek, but I got them to stop doing that, because it showed their true colours of being GC hating Racist, so now the magic word is "impostor".

Anyway, you have friends amongst True Cypriots, TC's and GC's alike, and you will not be left to defend yourself alone.

[gizzy]

VP, I read the reply but I will answer the questions u asked later coz now I have no time to write and am having my exams so I should go back to study.... and thank you for not "swearing" and keeping it "civilized"... ^^

[zan]

And you are letting your imagination run away with you. Can I ask how long you have been reading this forum and why you have only just started posting.

see thats the problem...Its been only recent that I have been reading the forum and making discussions. You people are agressive to both my ideas and to me in person. Its your right to "critisize" my ideas. I have my own ideas and you have yours. We can discuss these matters like "adults". If you choose to call me "fake" and "insult" me then do you expect me to respect you "evaluations about me?". I have total respect to VP as he hasnt insulted me in person and made mature discussions with me soo far even thought he doesnt agree with me on many things... You on the other had told me: "you talk crap" and "you are fake" and then at the same time expect me to write you reasonable replies? I think you shouldnt....

And someone told you that you came in in the middle of a heated discussion andd made a statement that evoked a reaction of the kind you got. Perhaps you should have read a bit more before jumping in.


I am still amazed at your comment about me being against a mutual solution. You must have been reading something or talking to someone to have come to that conclusion. I think there is something you are not telling us young lady. You talk like a veteran.