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[zan]

OH Dear Oh Dear!!!!!

[DT.]

I may have worded this incorrectly as your venomous attack towards the TRNC where you were probably born and raised on those Turkish funds which you seem to conveniently disregard, that you in fact did state that our education system taught you to hate GCs, obviously it didnt do a very good job, so claiming this is not only immature but contradictory, or are you caiming you were so strong willed that it had no impact and the rest of our youth hate GCs. Can you hand on heart say that the TC youth hate GC due to the education system? They dont give a shit about GCs they are more concerned about what to wear, which car to drive and who to date, I have 3 of them so I know. What have you got to say about the GC youth and their education system? only recently did we see the hatred displayed during the English School incident.

Hehe...its true, TC teens interest are things that will make them look more "havalı" XD ... How else do they learn things about GC if they dont learn it at school? You said it yourself, they interest in how to look better, what car to get.... Logicly they have no interest in "history" in their everyday life and so they wouldnt go and research. They are meant to study the "Vehbi Zeki Serter" history books at school and they have to pass it and thts all they know about history. They dont need to be "active haters" and to display their hatret to know that they are "hating". I know my own friends, they have great precudice towards GC just based on the matters they were thought at shcool. I dont want our people to be brainwashed. We should make them read "the true" history, not the distorted.

Young lady you can live anywhere in the world and be unpleased or unsatisfied, this is a frame of mind, I am sure there are plenty of GCs who feel the same about southern Cyprus. Would you be pleased or satifised living in a country where your family and loved ones were at risk of being discriminated or even killed due inter communal conflicts, its all a frame of mind and you are caught up in the sydrome where you feel the grass is always greener on the other side.

Oh ok...so we should all say "Yarabbi şükür" and sit? No. If there are things that are wrong and "unhumane" then I believe we should all to something about it. I would like to find a job at Cyprus since its my home and I have my family there. People are migrating away from Cyprus and its our own fault. I refure to just sit and watch this happening...

Here I think you owe us TCs an apology for such sweeping statements giving everyone the impression we live in a lawless country, all you have to do is look at our crime figures they are much lower in the north than they are in the south and most of the EU. So again your claim that 5yo girls are raped on a daily basis is total crap and does nothing towards your own creditbility, all you have done is "ekmelerine bal surdunuz" you have put honey on ther bread well done.

Well crime rates are low coz perhaps our population is low and other factors also effect it. I already said what I meant by "daily basis", pls dont distort it. I am sure you already aware am "unfonfortable" cause of the visa issue. Why dont you say something about that? If we have good "laws" we should be dealing with that as well. and Whose bread have I spread the honey to? You mean the GC? Sorry but I dont see GCs as the "other side" so there is nothing to discuss on this matter.

Thats all I am asking for what are those estinguishers and alarms going to be that will act as safeguards against being dominated or exploited by the numerical majority? or do you suggest that we close our eyes and take a leap of faith into union with GCs were safeguards are not in place and we are left at their mercy. When you go for a job interview in a united Cyprus and you are rejected by a totally GC interview team for the only reason that you are a TC dont come running to me, GCs are experts at providing you with logical explanations to why you were rejected covering up the reality of the situation.

What I am saying is, obviously is that we make sure we have our alarms set. Its not like am saying increased "no need to security". I know there are some retards* from both sides who will definitly do something stupid and increase the tention. Therefore there should be some increased safety for the protection of all cypriots.

The job interview concern>>. I wouldnt be suprized if there are some GC employers that wouldnt accept TC just coz they are the TC.I am totally against this kind of dicrimination. I don think this can be prevented totally and is present in every country including the EU. I can prevent this by talking with my potential "employer" and see if he is professional or a discriminatır. if I believe they are "discriminating" then I will definitly be visiting the "court" so dont worry I wont come "running" to you. I should learn to deal with my problems....

I and many TCs no longer trust the EU they have to make good on their promises to restore their depleated crediblity with the TC people. You are free to put your future in the hands of the GC south at anytime seeing that you are content in the fact that if anything shoudl go wrong the EU will bail you out, they have to have 300 mettings to decide buying a pen can you imagine what they will do in a moent of crisis, good luck.

You and MANY? How are you so sure its many people who think exactly the same way as you do. I think the past elections showed otherwise. Morover MANY of the TCs already got their "EU passports" and visited many places without visas!! If they dont like it sooo much and dont trust it, why do they enjoying the priveleges? Also if they feel so UNSECURE under EU regulations why are most of the TCs are migrating to the EU countries?

For 44 years TCs have been looking for "mutual solutions" but this can not be achieved on our own, do you honestly feel a people that have their own recognized country and all the benefits that bring want to share that cake? if you do you are kidding yourself, if you accept to assimilate into the GC majority you can do that tomorrow no one is stopping move south and live happily ever after but dont force me to do the same, ı need my safeguards to ensure I am not pushed to one side by the 80% that has shown me nothing but hardship.

I truly feel that we will never agree a solution with Gcs as the chasm is to wide but I am open to be persuaded by safeguards and guarantees that will insure my role in a united Cyprus will be one where I can influence my own future and not have the GC force decisions that will effect my community negatively, in my own designated state.

Would you rather be a Pirate or a Slave?

I appreciate your concerns about your future but it appears you are wll on the way to getting a first class education therefore the world is your oyster, you are young and can work anywhere you wish, even the south if you feel that that is the promised land.

The TRNC will always be here and you have to learn to accept it with all its imperfections, we will strive to make things better for future generations and I am really hopeful that in time isolation will be eased and TCs will propsper thus providing better employment opportunites for our youth. Think of it this way we TCs are 1000 times better off than were in the 1960s and in the future you will be better off than we are. When faced with political obstacles our progress will be slower but dont give up your faith in the TRNC because it is where your community live and breath and where you belong, when the time comes we have to hand over the flag to you to build a better future for generations that will follow be it with or in our case without a solution.

So the last bits are basicly saying "I dont care about your decision, you can do whatever you want, am gonna stay like the "pirate" and you are free to be the "slave".... You can still still believe that the other choice is being "slave" but I dont. I think you are totally enjoying being the "pirate" and that you forgot to care about the future generations. These last paragraphs of your shows you have no " real concerns about the future" and you soo called solutions are based on "selfish" matters. You seem to not care about the rest but the truth is no single "pirate" will be left at the end as they will all jump off the ship and swim to the west. If north is to stay as "pirates of the mediterranean" forever, the real TCs will eventually migrate to the west and whats left behind will be the "captains of the ship" such as you, probably still happy coz you will have loads of new "crew" coming from the north (and these new "crew" has been becoming the "pirates" for 30 yeards).............. and I will "congradulationg" these "captains" for their "great solution".......

excellent post Gizzy.

[zan]

I know what, why don't we Tcs spend the rest of our lives chasing our shadows in court rooms while the GCs use the whole of the island to get richer. Then we can even ask them to pay our fair to Turkey. I am sure that they will be more than willing to do that for us at least.


The Zurick agreement was there for a reason and it is still needed. There will not be an agreement without a simular gaurantee. You are talking crap gizzy and you know it.

[DT.]

I know what, why don't we Tcs spend the rest of our lives chasing our shadows in court rooms while the GCs use the whole of the island to get richer. Then we can even ask them to pay our fair to Turkey. I am sure that they will be more than willing to do that for us at least.


The Zurick agreement was there for a reason and it is still needed. There will not be an agreement without a simular gaurantee. You are talking crap gizzy and you know it.

she justdoesn't agree with you zan, she's not talking crap. Looks like the spin you guys are putting on this is not being bought by free thinking TC's.

[gizzy]

Horses for courses DT. gizzy will understand "oyle basa boyle darak, oyle gote boyle yarrak".

yet again another *civilized* post from *Mr.Pope*. Oh and its *not-suprizing* to see him being employed as "teacher" and probably a *professor*. Beacuse he made a *sophisticated analyses* , I cant exactly deduce exactly which subject he is *mastering*. Perhaps he is *linguistics* professor or perhaps he is *a fake* professor...

[zan]

I know what, why don't we Tcs spend the rest of our lives chasing our shadows in court rooms while the GCs use the whole of the island to get richer. Then we can even ask them to pay our fair to Turkey. I am sure that they will be more than willing to do that for us at least.


The Zurick agreement was there for a reason and it is still needed. There will not be an agreement without a simular gaurantee. You are talking crap gizzy and you know it.

she justdoesn't agree with you zan, she's not talking crap. Looks like the spin you guys are putting on this is not being bought by free thinking TC's.

You can choose to see it as a victory if you like DT but I did expect more from you. See my post to mrfomng.

[MR-from-NG]

gizzy, heres a serious question. Do you spit or do you swallow?

[gizzy]

I know what, why don't we Tcs spend the rest of our lives chasing our shadows in court rooms while the GCs use the whole of the island to get richer. Then we can even ask them to pay our fair to Turkey. I am sure that they will be more than willing to do that for us at least.


The Zurick agreement was there for a reason and it is still needed. There will not be an agreement without a simular gaurantee. You are talking crap gizzy and you know it.

I never said we dont need a guarantee!! thats your own imagination.

*hmmm you are right actually...we should all forget about the GCs, ignore the south part of the island and accept TAKSIM as the best solution!!! lets do that.... OMG, we are slavedd!! what the hell are we doing on the cyprus forum? we should all be on north cyprus forum!! the pirates ruleee, we dont need to talk with these GCs, we are better off on our own!!!....*sarcasm*

Actually I now I started wondering....If you guys against "mutual solution" why are you here discussing things with the GCs??? To "oppress" people like me who are here to form discussions?

[DT.]

I know what, why don't we Tcs spend the rest of our lives chasing our shadows in court rooms while the GCs use the whole of the island to get richer. Then we can even ask them to pay our fair to Turkey. I am sure that they will be more than willing to do that for us at least.


The Zurick agreement was there for a reason and it is still needed. There will not be an agreement without a simular gaurantee. You are talking crap gizzy and you know it.

she justdoesn't agree with you zan, she's not talking crap. Looks like the spin you guys are putting on this is not being bought by free thinking TC's.

You can choose to see it as a victory if you like DT but I did expect more from you. See my post to mrfomng.

sorry zan which post?

[Get Real!]

gizzy, heres a serious question. Do you spit or do you swallow?