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[Jerry]

Keep the engine of hate and recriminations going chaps. You must be really naive if you don't believe that a GC could counter the post that started this thread with arguments and details of Turkish atrocities over the years. Ah yes but according to your "rules" events before 1963 don't count do they, unless they were anti TC of course. Stop raking up the past, admit that you are equally to blame for the current situation but most of all GROW UP!

Well why don't you counter it then....?

Because at my age TC I consider myself grown up. Quite frankly I can't be bothered with your puerile games. Do you honestly believe that the history between Greeks and Turks before 1963 had no influence on events after that date. VP has suggested that 1960 would be a suitable start date for the intercommunal history of the two sides, the problem with that idea is that, for example, a mere five years before thousands of Greeks were thrown out of Istanbul, and the Cypriots knew this. I could go on but what's the point, claim and counter claim, it gets us nowhere.

Goodnight

[T_C]

Keep the engine of hate and recriminations going chaps. You must be really naive if you don't believe that a GC could counter the post that started this thread with arguments and details of Turkish atrocities over the years. Ah yes but according to your "rules" events before 1963 don't count do they, unless they were anti TC of course. Stop raking up the past, admit that you are equally to blame for the current situation but most of all GROW UP!

Well why don't you counter it then....?

Because at my age TC I consider myself grown up. Quite frankly I can't be bothered with your puerile games. Do you honestly believe that the history between Greeks and Turks before 1963 had no influence on events after that date. VP has suggested that 1960 would be a suitable start date for the intercommunal history of the two sides, the problem with that idea is that, for example, a mere five years before thousands of Greeks were thrown out of Istanbul, and the Cypriots knew this. I could go on but what's the point, claim and counter claim, it gets us nowhere.

Goodnight

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DT!

Thanks for posting that....it was painfull to read but I can understand better where GCs are coming from when they talk about 1974.

[DT.]

Keep the engine of hate and recriminations going chaps. You must be really naive if you don't believe that a GC could counter the post that started this thread with arguments and details of Turkish atrocities over the years. Ah yes but according to your "rules" events before 1963 don't count do they, unless they were anti TC of course. Stop raking up the past, admit that you are equally to blame for the current situation but most of all GROW UP!

Well why don't you counter it then....?

Because at my age TC I consider myself grown up. Quite frankly I can't be bothered with your puerile games. Do you honestly believe that the history between Greeks and Turks before 1963 had no influence on events after that date. VP has suggested that 1960 would be a suitable start date for the intercommunal history of the two sides, the problem with that idea is that, for example, a mere five years before thousands of Greeks were thrown out of Istanbul, and the Cypriots knew this. I could go on but what's the point, claim and counter claim, it gets us nowhere.

Goodnight

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DT!

Thanks for posting that....it was painfull to read but I can understand better where GCs are coming from when they talk about 1974.

TC..had the same epiphany when I read of the atrocities done against TC's. WOnder what all these dead GC's and dead TC's would be saying about our daily squabbling of who's the biggest victim here......

[T_C]

I know mate....

[cypezokyli]

R.R. obviously misinterpreted / manipulated the position of loucas charalambous.

when someone critisizes the nationalists of his own community, this does not mean that he accepts the positions of the nationalists of the other community.

this is the tragedy of people who attempt to view history in a different way.... so loucas charalambous will be labelled here as a sell out....while on the other side the same school of thought will say the same about sener levent..... or come along with threads like kikapoulopoulos

So what is the real ntensions of people like Loucas Cyp. What part do they play in all this?

lets put it that way. there are two feary tails, of the events of 1963

the gc one that refers to the situation as "turkish rebellion"
the tc one that refers to the situation as "the realisation of akritas plan to ethnically cleanse tcs"

none has any real basis, and what they really are, is the twisted view of the past in order to achieve future targets.

now.... when a gc (or a tc) tries to present a different view to his own community, the article is immidiately overtaken by the other side, twisted (as if the author rejcts one propaganda only to accept a new one), and at the end of the day, he is not respected in his own community bc he is "giving arguments to the other side".

so, you would always post an article by loucas charalambous, but you wouldnt do the same for a tc that challange the official tc view

as for the real intentions, they are clear i believe.
an end to the fairy tailes we believed up to now, even if it suits as to believe in them

[zan]

What do you mean the Akritas plan has no basis. On what grounds do you say that.

[Get Real!]

What do you mean the Akritas plan has no basis. On what grounds do you say that.

That's definitely bollocks but the TC policy of challenge and reject is 100% true. I've proven that many times.

Tara Zan!

[zan]

What do you mean the Akritas plan has no basis. On what grounds do you say that.

That's definitely bollocks but the TC policy of challenge and reject is 100% true. I've proven that many times.

Tara Zan!

You are so funny. We have a written and signed document that is the Akritas plan and you want us to discard that and believe Get Reals word. I will certainly be pushing the Akritas plan at all the politicians around the world. If you would like to send me a signed declaration by you as to your beliefs, I would only be too glad to put them in the same envelope.....

[Get Real!]

What do you mean the Akritas plan has no basis. On what grounds do you say that.

That's definitely bollocks but the TC policy of challenge and reject is 100% true. I've proven that many times.

Tara Zan!

You are so funny. We have a written and signed document that is the Akritas plan and you want us to discard that and believe Get Reals word. I will certainly be pushing the Akritas plan at all the politicians around the world. If you would like to send me a signed declaration by you as to your beliefs, I would only be too glad to put them in the same envelope.....

Err, I hate to break the news to you but we've just embargoed your post office!

Btw, one of these days you'll wake up, turn your PC on, and every time you tap on one of the vowels it'll write "embargoed character"!

[zan]

What do you mean the Akritas plan has no basis. On what grounds do you say that.

That's definitely bollocks but the TC policy of challenge and reject is 100% true. I've proven that many times.

Tara Zan!

You are so funny. We have a written and signed document that is the Akritas plan and you want us to discard that and believe Get Reals word. I will certainly be pushing the Akritas plan at all the politicians around the world. If you would like to send me a signed declaration by you as to your beliefs, I would only be too glad to put them in the same envelope.....

Err, I hate to break the news to you but we've just embargoed your post office!

Btw, one of these days you'll wake up, turn your PC on, and every time you tap on one of the vowels it'll write "embargoed character"!

That about sums it up. Are you saying that we have no (a=)embargoes.