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Postby T_C » Thu May 24, 2007 2:24 am

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turkish_cypriot wrote:I want nothing more than to unite but the stratergy RoC has taken over the years has done nothing but bring us towards partition.


Why do you want to unite T_C?

I understand different TC people want union for different reasons and I'd like to hear yours. If I'm putting you under the spot light here send a PM, if you don't want to answer at all that's fine too but if you do just be honest please as I know you can be. :)



I have nothing to gain or nothing to lose so I don't need a reason to want to unite. For the good of my country and people I suppose.

But right now I really don't want to unite..

I want there to be a solution asap, but not untill GC's accept TC's as Cypriot enough to share political power with. Without that I am against union 100000000% and trust GC's a mere 9.5%. I accept GC's have been there longer but Cyprus has never been offically Greek and the whole point of the RoC consitution was for equality between two communities that weren't getting on, therefore I don't see sharing political power as asking for too much from Greek Cypriots, specially in 2007!

I find it an insult that they refuse, they go as far as seeing it as "stealing my land" as Piratis has already said on this thread. It makes me even more mad that they then turn round try to tell me about being my compatriots and expect me to believe what they're saying.

If we're all Cypriots and GC's see TC's as true Cypriots then why the big fuss over who runs what? I'd understand if we were still living together and all of a sudden TC's asked to have their own state...but we've been divided for 40 YEARS. We're already living in 2 states and no matter how much propaganda try to convince yourself with TRNC does and will exist till.

After what we've been through, after the war, after a 40 year political war and considering that the war was between Greeks and Turks (:!: :!: :!:) there is no way I will unite to live in what might as well be a fully Greek Cyprus. Being on this forum and reading Piratis' head******* posts alone has given me a huge chip on my shoulder and there is no way I want to unite with people like that without them knowing their place (and mine)!!!!

I don't think a lot of GC's see us as true Cypriots and thats probably why they're so reluctant to agree to any settlement that will share power with us. Till that changes there will be no solution, even Piratis knows it which is why his only bit of hope is in "balance of power". I find it even more untrustworthy that people would rather wait 100 years for the balance of power to change instead of sorting out the problem by compromising. Without that compromise there will be no trust. Without trust there is NOTHING!

Damn, reading back I answered everything but your question :?
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Postby T_C » Thu May 24, 2007 2:29 am

Piratis wrote:You mean the boat you missed waiting for the pseudo state to be recognized while we managed to advance and move ahead despite the fact that you illegaly occupy 1/3rd of our country? Do you still wait for that boat Zan?


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Oh please, don't try it! You advanced and moved on BECAUSE 1/3rd of your country is occupied. :lol: :lol: :lol:

If it weren't for the hand-outs you'd still be milking cows mate... :lol:
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Postby T_C » Thu May 24, 2007 3:24 am

Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:I want nothing more than to unite but the stratergy RoC has taken over the years has done nothing but bring us towards partition.


Why do you want to unite T_C?

I understand different TC people want union for different reasons and I'd like to hear yours. If I'm putting you under the spot light here send a PM, if you don't want to answer at all that's fine too but if you do just be honest please as I know you can be. :)


Another clarification is by what T_C means by "unite". E.g. one could mean that we should gift to TCs our lands, accept the violations of our human rights, recognize them as a separate state and then they will want to become members of EU so they will "unite" with us in the same way we are united today with Lithuania and Luxembourg.


Ladies and Gentleman, presenting to you.....


The Cyprus Problem!!!!
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Postby Piratis » Thu May 24, 2007 3:40 am

I want there to be a solution asap, but not untill GC's accept TC's as Cypriot enough to share political power with.


Who ever said that GCs don't want to share political power with TCs? :roll: The problem is that as usual you want to rip us off by demanding way more than what proportionally belongs to you. Why should I accept that your vote will have more weight than mine? Am I second category citizen or what?

I don't think a lot of GC's see us as true Cypriots and thats probably why they're so reluctant to agree to any settlement that will share power with us.

The reason is that you are the 18% and you are asking for way more. Do you think that if some group of 18% of British were demanding 50% power, that the rest of the British would accept that? Nobody in his right mind would.

Till that changes there will be no solution, even Piratis knows it which is why his only bit of hope is in "balance of power". I find it even more untrustworthy that people would rather wait 100 years for the balance of power to change instead of sorting out the problem by compromising.


Compromising is not the word. What you want from us is to capitulate. And you are very very right, agreeing on a solution with you has proven to be impossible since all you care about is how to gain on our loss. You are the 18% and you demand 50% power, 29% or even 37% of land and all sorts of unreasonable things.

Without that compromise there will be no trust. Without trust there is NOTHING!


Wrong, without respect there will be no trust. And you asking to gain on my loss is disrespect.
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Postby Piratis » Thu May 24, 2007 3:45 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:
Piratis wrote:You mean the boat you missed waiting for the pseudo state to be recognized while we managed to advance and move ahead despite the fact that you illegaly occupy 1/3rd of our country? Do you still wait for that boat Zan?


:lol:

Oh please, don't try it! You advanced and moved on BECAUSE 1/3rd of your country is occupied. :lol: :lol: :lol:

If it weren't for the hand-outs you'd still be milking cows mate... :lol:


Hand-outs? Which are the hand outs you are talking about?

The only hand outs are those that Turkey gives to the pseudo state, and in turn Turkey is given hand-outs from IMF and the World Bank in order to survive.
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Postby Piratis » Thu May 24, 2007 3:47 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:I want nothing more than to unite but the stratergy RoC has taken over the years has done nothing but bring us towards partition.


Why do you want to unite T_C?

I understand different TC people want union for different reasons and I'd like to hear yours. If I'm putting you under the spot light here send a PM, if you don't want to answer at all that's fine too but if you do just be honest please as I know you can be. :)


Another clarification is by what T_C means by "unite". E.g. one could mean that we should gift to TCs our lands, accept the violations of our human rights, recognize them as a separate state and then they will want to become members of EU so they will "unite" with us in the same way we are united today with Lithuania and Luxembourg.


Ladies and Gentleman, presenting to you.....


The Cyprus Problem!!!!


You just realized that the problem is that TCs are trying to use the big guns of Turkey to steal from us our lands? Congratulations.
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Postby zan » Thu May 24, 2007 8:46 am

And Bir gets upset when we tell you to go fuck yourselves :roll: Purest propaganda and twisting of h situation. You have your equality in the south. Isuggest you stay there and live it out. The same rules apply today as they in 1959 with the Zurick agreement. It was found then that you could not be trusted to act honorably with full power in Cyprus and nothing has changed. In fact your record since then has proved that you cannot be trusted at all so the TRNC/KKTC will fight its ground on those terms. The people of the TRNC/KKTC have such big hearts that they gave you chance after chance to prove yourselves otherwise but now have seen the truth. You are not to be trusted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby miltiades » Thu May 24, 2007 9:23 am

zan wrote:And Bir gets upset when we tell you to go fuck yourselves :roll: Purest propaganda and twisting of h situation. You have your equality in the south. Isuggest you stay there and live it out. The same rules apply today as they in 1959 with the Zurick agreement. It was found then that you could not be trusted to act honorably with full power in Cyprus and nothing has changed. In fact your record since then has proved that you cannot be trusted at all so the TRNC/KKTC will fight its ground on those terms. The people of the TRNC/KKTC have such big hearts that they gave you chance after chance to prove yourselves otherwise but now have seen the truth. You are not to be trusted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


True to form . The hatred continues . The script is working.
The Zombie has excelled in every field of hatred , he even claims to represent T/C opinion because he has been told so. I wonder why he remains in the UK when his new world is beckoning .

He also claims to have G/C friends !!! Listen man , I have T/C friends and I know that none consider me to have one once oh hatred for my countrymen . Not in your case Zombie. Time to wake up to realities and join the new world. When I get a few minutes I will expose some of your previous posts to show that since joining VP you have become so full of venom its unreal.
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Postby zan » Thu May 24, 2007 9:37 am

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:And Bir gets upset when we tell you to go fuck yourselves :roll: Purest propaganda and twisting of h situation. You have your equality in the south. Isuggest you stay there and live it out. The same rules apply today as they in 1959 with the Zurick agreement. It was found then that you could not be trusted to act honorably with full power in Cyprus and nothing has changed. In fact your record since then has proved that you cannot be trusted at all so the TRNC/KKTC will fight its ground on those terms. The people of the TRNC/KKTC have such big hearts that they gave you chance after chance to prove yourselves otherwise but now have seen the truth. You are not to be trusted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


True to form . The hatred continues . The script is working.
The Zombie has excelled in every field of hatred , he even claims to represent T/C opinion because he has been told so. I wonder why he remains in the UK when his new world is beckoning .

He also claims to have G/C friends !!! Listen man , I have T/C friends and I know that none consider me to have one once oh hatred for my countrymen . Not in your case Zombie. Time to wake up to realities and join the new world. When I get a few minutes I will expose some of your previous posts to show that since joining VP you have become so full of venom its unreal.


No YOU listen old man. My "venom" as you call it is because of shits like you that say one thing but mean a whole different thing all together. You are a crook and a crook you will stay as long as you keep twisting what others say to suit your self. What your friends tell you when you are drunk to appease you is one thing but w3hat they really think is probably quite another. You can love yourself as much as you like but your foul-mouthed yobbish behaviour does not appeal to me. When it comes to hate, no one does it better than you. You do not answer a single question put to you but you keep on bad mouthing everyone and I mean everyone that dares to disagree with you. When you "spreaders of love" stop trying to kill everything hat does not agree with you then I might just start to listen to you but until then, you just keep swearing and shouting in the middle of the street. Careful not to spill any though....................



When you get a few minutes all you will expose will be your pitiful hateful self. What a great neighbour you would make...
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