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[EPSILON]

Turkish Cypriots are trying to find an alternative way out of isolation by opening new trade offices and establishing bilateral relations with the members of Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC).

Good decision , finally Turks found their direction - good luck!!!!

[EPSILON]

It's through ignoring TCs (and recently much of the rest of the world) that has got the situation to the point where it is difficult to see how there can now be any agreement. As a result GCs get nothing; TCs gradually improve their life style.

The stolen property and materials are expired/consumed- Its time for you now to stard producing which means you have to work- improve of your life is because GCs leadership (all of them) still treat Tcs as partners in several EU an other financial programs. When this leadership will realise that you are just trators who are cooperarating with a foreign army against the official state of Cyprus then you have to ask Turkey to increase again the financial help- the problem is ho is going to help Turkey

[zan]

My father used to say "icsilos cikar" to shut my mum up, or something like that. Ditto.

[EPSILON]

Ridiculous is you thinking the troops are going anywhere without a settlement. If you want your rights then tell your president to do whats best for his people and start to negotiate instead of trying to hold out Piratis...


In line with UN/EU and me the certain president is also your president otherwise give back-all of you, the Cyprus state passports and ids.YOUR IDEAS ARE STAND ONLY AGAINST A CUP OF COFEE IN PARIS WHERE YOU USE CYPRUS DOCUMENTS TO GO

[EPSILON]

My father used to say "icsilos cikar" to shut my mum up, or something like that. Ditto.

In Greek-Turkish dialog may I can reply assiktir?Except i understood wrong

[zan]

My father used to say "icsilos cikar" to shut my mum up, or something like that. Ditto.

In Greek-Turkish dialog may I can reply assiktir?Except i understood wrong

Use the quote button EPSILON, it will make reading your posts a lot easier.

I think what you are trying to say is the well known Turkish phrase a virgin woman uses on her wedding night.


"AH! Sikdir".

[EPSILON]

My father used to say "icsilos cikar" to shut my mum up, or something like that. Ditto.

In Greek-Turkish dialog may I can reply assiktir?Except i understood wrong

Use the quote button EPSILON, it will make reading your posts a lot easier.

I think what you are trying to say is the well known Turkish phrase a virgin woman uses on her wedding night.


"AH! Sikdir".

IS THE FIRST TIME IN THIS FORUM I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW- TKS ZAN

[Piratis]

You ethnically cleansed all GCs from the occupied areas and then you say that you do not violate the human rights of those people? so if we ethnically cleanse all TCs from Cyprus (which are less than the GCs you ethnically cleansed) can we then say that there is no human right violation?

Ridiculous is you thinking the troops are going anywhere without a settlement. If you want your rights then tell your president to do whats best for his people and start to negotiate instead of trying to hold out Piratis...

We were negotiating for ages. Have you at any point accepted a solution that would allow GCs to regain their lands and human rights?

You are using ethnic cleansing within a wrong context. Most Greeks had run away for fear of being killed by the Turkish troops rather than forced by the military to move. It took place in a small time framework, and subsequently 34000 Turkish Cypriots were moved to TRNC from the British bases they took cover during the war. It was more of a population exchange rather than "ethnic cleansing".

As you will se from our intended discussion of Cyprus history, "ethnic cleansing" was in fact attempted by EOKA betweeen 1963-67 and then by Cyprus Government policies until 1974. Initially bu murdering of women, children, young, elderly indiscriminately and burying them in mass graves. No such activity was carried out by TCs.

Later the Greek Cypriot government actively encouraged departure of TCs to other places like Australia and Europe using economic pressure and embargoes. More so by assisting Australian High Comission in setting up special offices to deal quickly with any TCs who wished to emigrate to Australia - many thousands did!

You are referring to the consequences of the 1974 war with total disregard as to why it took place and what the alternatives would have been, and naming the movement of the population as Human Rights violations. OK just to please you, it did happen, but it happened to both sides as the consequence of war - and no one else in the world except GCs call it "ethnic cleansing". But I can show you many examples of what happened to TCs previously as being called "ethnic cleansing" in the forign media.

I hope we shall deal with this in our proposed discussion so let us just call it a truce for now and see how we get along...

BigOz, 200.000 were forced to leave their homes at gun point, their properties were stolen and they are sold to foreigners, a land that had a Greek Cypriot majority for 3000 years is ethnically cleansed from Greek Cypriots and the Turks are trying to destroy even the evidence of our history, culture and religion in those places, and then you tell me that there was no ethnic cleansing?

You are trying to present TCs as the innocent victims and you accuse only GCs. Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Here is one of those quotes that you like so much:

"the New York Times" 27.12.1963:
"Most of the fighting centered on a police station occupied by Turks in Nicosia, and on family apartments in the suburb of Omorphita. These were overrun and occupied by Turks who chased off Greek families. They were reported to have killed an unspecified number of women and children".

I also have to remind you that the first bloody conflict between TCs and GCs after the end of the Ottoman rule actually started in 1958. In June 7 1958 2 GCs were killed by TCs and then on 12 June when another 8 GCs were massacred near Geunyeli.

So please don't play the "it is OK to do such and such to you because you did such and such to us before" because I can play that game as well.

So I call you to admit the crimes of your side against us, in the same way I accept ours, and stop trying to deny them by saying that the ethnic cleansing against us was "population exchange" or by saying that no criminal activities were curried out by TCs!!

[Nikephoros]

Turkish Cypriots have only one foreign policy: backstabbing the Republic of Cyprus.

They like to vary their backstabbing ways but they never could be called "honest partners".

[zan]

You ethnically cleansed all GCs from the occupied areas and then you say that you do not violate the human rights of those people? so if we ethnically cleanse all TCs from Cyprus (which are less than the GCs you ethnically cleansed) can we then say that there is no human right violation?

Ridiculous is you thinking the troops are going anywhere without a settlement. If you want your rights then tell your president to do whats best for his people and start to negotiate instead of trying to hold out Piratis...

We were negotiating for ages. Have you at any point accepted a solution that would allow GCs to regain their lands and human rights?

You are using ethnic cleansing within a wrong context. Most Greeks had run away for fear of being killed by the Turkish troops rather than forced by the military to move. It took place in a small time framework, and subsequently 34000 Turkish Cypriots were moved to TRNC from the British bases they took cover during the war. It was more of a population exchange rather than "ethnic cleansing".

As you will se from our intended discussion of Cyprus history, "ethnic cleansing" was in fact attempted by EOKA betweeen 1963-67 and then by Cyprus Government policies until 1974. Initially bu murdering of women, children, young, elderly indiscriminately and burying them in mass graves. No such activity was carried out by TCs.

Later the Greek Cypriot government actively encouraged departure of TCs to other places like Australia and Europe using economic pressure and embargoes. More so by assisting Australian High Comission in setting up special offices to deal quickly with any TCs who wished to emigrate to Australia - many thousands did!

You are referring to the consequences of the 1974 war with total disregard as to why it took place and what the alternatives would have been, and naming the movement of the population as Human Rights violations. OK just to please you, it did happen, but it happened to both sides as the consequence of war - and no one else in the world except GCs call it "ethnic cleansing". But I can show you many examples of what happened to TCs previously as being called "ethnic cleansing" in the forign media.

I hope we shall deal with this in our proposed discussion so let us just call it a truce for now and see how we get along...

BigOz, 200.000 were forced to leave their homes at gun point, their properties were stolen and they are sold to foreigners, a land that had a Greek Cypriot majority for 3000 years is ethnically cleansed from Greek Cypriots and the Turks are trying to destroy even the evidence of our history, culture and religion in those places, and then you tell me that there was no ethnic cleansing?

You are trying to present TCs as the innocent victims and you accuse only GCs. Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Here is one of those quotes that you like so much:

"the New York Times" 27.12.1963:
"Most of the fighting centered on a police station occupied by Turks in Nicosia, and on family apartments in the suburb of Omorphita. These were overrun and occupied by Turks who chased off Greek families. They were reported to have killed an unspecified number of women and children".

I also have to remind you that the first bloody conflict between TCs and GCs after the end of the Ottoman rule actually started in 1958. In June 7 1958 2 GCs were killed by TCs and then on 12 June when another 8 GCs were massacred near Geunyeli.

So please don't play the "it is OK to do such and such to you because you did such and such to us before" because I can play that game as well.

So I call you to admit the crimes of your side against us, in the same way I accept ours, and stop trying to deny them by saying that the ethnic cleansing against us was "population exchange" or by saying that no criminal activities were curried out by TCs!!

YES...Yes, I can see that....200,000 people being marched on through Cyprus with 40,000 Turkish soldiers, with guns pointed, marching behind them. Its a miracle that a lot more than the 6000 did not get killed by these barbarians.



Have you made your final bid on how many refugees and how many GCs killed by the TUrks there were Piratis. I am collecting data from all the posters for a project I have. I want to see who gets the nearest to the ACTUAL figure. Care to make a pledge........