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[miltiades]

No need to apologise, Miltiades, it is always the "people" who suffer, and none of this suffering need have happened. There was enough space in Cyprus for all Cypriots. Lets hope we find an everlasting solution which will be accepted to all. What are the chances of that?

Thanks denizaksulu , your so right and sensible.People , our people have suffered a great deal because of bigots and demagogues who refuse to see that at the end of the day your country is my country and my country is yours. There is as you say plenty of land for us all. There will be a solution sooner or later people will consider the future generations to come and sacrifices from both sides will be made in order to ensure that we wipe out the remnants of the 60s malignant ideologies and concentrate on building bridges of peace for our people. Again I emphasize my strong commitment to one Cyprus for all Cypriots .Equal in all spheres of life under the law of the land. We are in the EU now and so are all parts of Cyprus. Lets do it .

[zan]

No one is objecting to the announcement of a musical event , and you bloody well know I was not refering to that.Look at the last 4 threads advicing us of the ongoing progress by the "trnc" in its efforts to obtain "recognition".Furthermore Bayrac is the official mouthpiece of the partitinists, and I have always consistently critisized any efforts by any site to cement the status quo .
Halil ought to adverise the "trnc" activities in official saurces certainly not use the forum to expand on the efforts to solidify the division of Cyprus and annexation to a foreign power.

As for your last comments , I expect nothing more from a lost soul who is still determined to enter that new modern world that he aspires to . Funny he lives in the UK !!! You know why , because he cant survive a day in his new world , just wants our brothers and sisters in Cyprus to be absorbed while he and his family remain in the UK.
Well mate , I know lots of T/Cs and most if not all consider me a genuine Cypriot and one who is dedicated to the preservation of the Cypriot identity .

Your kind of Cypriotness you can keep. Your kind of free world you can keep. Your kind of democracy you can keep. You can keep them because they mean nothing in the real sense of the word. Who the hell are you to object to anything that another Cypriot wants to express. Who the hell are you to tell him that he can post only what is right for your party. You speak of democracy but only your kind of it. If Halil wants to promote Communism then who the hell are you to stop him. These are not the MacArthur's days of witch-hunts and persecution. You keep saying you are consistent but you are about as consistent as a non-consistent thing with its consistency sucked out of it. As far as I know this is not a forum in which only your propaganda can be aired but a forum for all. You have shown us what a Cyprus run by people like you will be like and as I have said before, YOU CAN KEEP IT. You put up your Greekness as the measure to which we barbarian Turks must aspire to but you are worse than any barbarian that has ever existed in any country. Your way is not the only way and it never will be. You have not once answered the question of why you are trying a "RoC" on us that you have said your self is not the right place for TCs but still you ply your wears with confidence. We don't want your shit ok, so go find a better product and come back and work twice as hard trying to convince me that you are not trying to con me. Your reputation is shot my friend and all the name calling and the abuse can carry on as far as I am concerned. It just goes to show what a bigot and a charlatan you really are. You have no respect for a proper Cyprus. You just want what is best for GCs and stuff the rest of us. You have been found out long ago but your drunken stupor will not allow you to see that fact. You are nothing but a foul-mouthed trickster. Why don't you ask Admin to ban me. I speak out against you and people like you with truth and integrity. You have not proved one point on the Cyprob but still you prance around as if you have what it takes to put things right. If you are the best of the crop then, THEY CAN KEEP YOU.

Expertly written script , true to form . But you are surely mistaking me for someone else , I'm the guy Zombie who aspires to see a T/C as the president of Cyprus for reasons that I have stated before. I'm the guy moron who refers to our Cypriot countrymen as my brothers and sisters. I'm the guy who has made friends with hundreds of T/Cs and still do today , and I'm still respected for my unbiased and sensible views. I'm the guy who cares for the future generations off all Cypriots , and you are the hateful monster who wants to inflame the feelings of hatred and maintain the status quo.You are working from a script. You are still referring to me , as a drunk , because I enjoy the fine things in life and love my wine. Do you enjoy sex Zombie ? are you a sex maniac , do you love children , ? are you a paedophile. NO Just plain stupid.

Cheep words with no action what so ever. Still no attempt to answer a single one of my accusations. I looked for your poster at the EU song contest. Were you there? How about the next football or rugby matches where they will surely play the Greek national anthem. Will I see you there with your placard. I doubt it very much indeed. Talk is cheep my friend but when you talk it could end up costing the TCs a great deal. A very great deal!

Just as in all your posts you take what you do as the measure with which others should lead their lives. You call your addiction an appreciation of the finer things in life. Give the AA a call and ask them for their definition. I have told you that I have lived my life under the shadow of a drunken brother and I know the symptoms. You show all those symptoms. Get help.

[miltiades]

The brilliance of Zombie shines again. Listen moron , I'm 61 years of age , apart from working 6 days a week
some 60 plus hours I also have a commitment to the woman that I have been with for some 44 years . In sickness and in death till death us do part. Will not go into that again , needless to say I vehemently object to declarations or statements made by either the RoC in which Cyprus is projected as a Greek Island. The UN and all other international bodies including the most influential of them all , the EU consider Cyprus as an independent nation and not a Greek or Turkish island . As far as me attending the Eurovision or any other public exhibition waving a banner proclaiming my dissatisfaction that our Cyprus is not representative of all people , dont worry , one day I will , will you though ?? I doubt uit. Now it is time to enjoy a glass or two of the finest things in life so cheers.
As far as your comments are concerned regarding AA , let me assure you that I have been a member of the AA since cancelling with the RAC , I find AA offer more value for money than AA.

AND HERE THE BRILLIANT PROPAGANTIST , THE MAN WHO KNOWS HOW TO HATE , THE MAN THAT VP SIGNED UP WHEN HE CAME TO LONDON WROTE :

"""Cheep words with no action what so ever. Still no attempt to answer a single one of my accusations. I looked for your poster at the EU song contest. Were you there? How about the next football or rugby matches where they will surely play the Greek national anthem. Will I see you there with your placard. I doubt it very much indeed. Talk is cheep my friend but when you talk it could end up costing the TCs a great deal. A very great deal!

Just as in all your posts you take what you do as the measure with which others should lead their lives. You call your addiction an appreciation of the finer things in life. Give the AA a call and ask them for their definition. I have told you that I have lived my life under the shadow of a drunken brother and I know the symptoms. You show all those symptoms. Get help."""

So you are seriously asking me to disassociate my self from something with which I have never been associated with . Are you sure that your drunken brother did not abuse you having lived under his shadow for so many years , by abuse I mean mentally not physically.

[Viewpoint]

I made the mistake of reading your post. Yes I do live in the UK, so what. I could not go back to my village where we were forced to leave. I live in the UK because I was a refugee from your (plural) actions; and I do not live in what you keep on about on "stolen property". I thought you would thank me for it! Whats your problem with that. Dont tell me , for I already heard it umpteen times.

Denizaksulu , my sincere apologies , my comments were directed at Zan and his proffesed preferance to the new world. Im sorry that you had to abandon your village the same as my dear friend Kikapu and Bir. Please also note that my posts are consistent and I have NEVER in over 2500 posts harshly critisized the T/Cs that I can consider my brother Cypriots. What I do object is the division of our island since I firmy believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that this division will stoke up the fire for future confrontations .

No he only swears and curses those TCs who do not agree with him, his way or the highway. A true Cypridiot.

[miltiades]

I made the mistake of reading your post. Yes I do live in the UK, so what. I could not go back to my village where we were forced to leave. I live in the UK because I was a refugee from your (plural) actions; and I do not live in what you keep on about on "stolen property". I thought you would thank me for it! Whats your problem with that. Dont tell me , for I already heard it umpteen times.

Denizaksulu , my sincere apologies , my comments were directed at Zan and his professed preference to the new world. I'm sorry that you had to abandon your village the same as my dear friend Kikapu and Bir. Please also note that my posts are consistent and I have NEVER in over 2500 posts harshly criticized the T/Cs that I can consider my brother Cypriots. What I do object is the division of our island since I fir my believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that this division will stoke up the fire for future confrontations .

No he only swears and curses those TCs who do not agree with him, his way or the highway. A true Cypridiot.

I curse all those who are hell bent on damaging our island beyond repair. I curse all those with blinkers that do not see beyond their noses and recognise that the future generations of Cypriots must be free form indoctrinating poisonous propaganda full of hatred for their fellow Cypriots. I curse all those who will be held responsible for future conflict and suffering on our island because of their incessant promotion of hatred , you know people like you and Zombie your latest recruit in your poisonous department of hatred .

[zan]

The brilliance of Zombie shines again. Listen moron , I'm 61 years of age , apart from working 6 days a week
some 60 plus hours I also have a commitment to the woman that I have been with for some 44 years . In sickness and in death till death us do part. Will not go into that again , needless to say I vehemently object to declarations or statements made by either the RoC in which Cyprus is projected as a Greek Island. The UN and all other international bodies including the most influential of them all , the EU consider Cyprus as an independent nation and not a Greek or Turkish island . As far as me attending the Eurovision or any other public exhibition waving a banner proclaiming my dissatisfaction that our Cyprus is not representative of all people , dont worry , one day I will , will you though ?? I doubt uit. Now it is time to enjoy a glass or two of the finest things in life so cheers.
As far as your comments are concerned regarding AA , let me assure you that I have been a member of the AA since cancelling with the RAC , I find AA offer more value for money than AA.

AND HERE THE BRILLIANT PROPAGANTIST , THE MAN WHO KNOWS HOW TO HATE , THE MAN THAT VP SIGNED UP WHEN HE CAME TO LONDON WROTE :

"""Cheep words with no action what so ever. Still no attempt to answer a single one of my accusations. I looked for your poster at the EU song contest. Were you there? How about the next football or rugby matches where they will surely play the Greek national anthem. Will I see you there with your placard. I doubt it very much indeed. Talk is cheep my friend but when you talk it could end up costing the TCs a great deal. A very great deal!

Just as in all your posts you take what you do as the measure with which others should lead their lives. You call your addiction an appreciation of the finer things in life. Give the AA a call and ask them for their definition. I have told you that I have lived my life under the shadow of a drunken brother and I know the symptoms. You show all those symptoms. Get help."""

So you are seriously asking me to disassociate my self from something with which I have never been associated with . Are you sure that your drunken brother did not abuse you having lived under his shadow for so many years , by abuse I mean mentally not physically.

Cheep, cheep, cheep. Stop looking drunken old man. its not a bird but the value of your words."dont worry , one day I will" you said, well when you do and you can get them to change all that is wrong with the "RoC" then you will find me next to you fighting for a united Cyprus, until then keep drinking, it sounds as if you need it.

I will still refrain from calling you names except for old man....After all it is from the class system that you believe that you belong to, old man...what what! What happened to your call for a ban on Halil by the way. Did you get your bigoted views satisfied by Admin.......

[Viewpoint]

I made the mistake of reading your post. Yes I do live in the UK, so what. I could not go back to my village where we were forced to leave. I live in the UK because I was a refugee from your (plural) actions; and I do not live in what you keep on about on "stolen property". I thought you would thank me for it! Whats your problem with that. Dont tell me , for I already heard it umpteen times.

Denizaksulu , my sincere apologies , my comments were directed at Zan and his professed preference to the new world. I'm sorry that you had to abandon your village the same as my dear friend Kikapu and Bir. Please also note that my posts are consistent and I have NEVER in over 2500 posts harshly criticized the T/Cs that I can consider my brother Cypriots. What I do object is the division of our island since I fir my believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that this division will stoke up the fire for future confrontations .

No he only swears and curses those TCs who do not agree with him, his way or the highway. A true Cypridiot.

I curse all those who are hell bent on damaging our island beyond repair. I curse all those with blinkers that do not see beyond their noses and recognise that the future generations of Cypriots must be free form indoctrinating poisonous propaganda full of hatred for their fellow Cypriots. I curse all those who will be held responsible for future conflict and suffering on our island because of their incessant promotion of hatred , you know people like you and Zombie your latest recruit in your poisonous department of hatred .

The truth and reality hurt miltiades, where will you be when the first bomb goes off in a united Cyprus? Some where in Surrey?

[denizaksulu]

Miltiades, thanks for your very kind reply. You call me sensible. Thats nice too. I hope you are not patronising me just because my language or rather my tone is not as harsh as Zans or Big Oz. The problem I pose to you is whether there will be an everlasting peaceful solution to the Cyprob which will be acceptable to both sides. My opinion on this will surely differ from yours. From what has happened in the past and the attitude of your leadership (and to some extent ours as well - and I cannot blame them) the hypocrisy of Tpop and co I can not see this happening. Can you see this happening? Seriously now. How do you see the GC refugees returning to their former homes? What will you do with the TCs you displace. That will be your stumbling block and so its up to "Compensation". No no no. What we idealise is different from the facts / reality. We have to face the truth of the matter. I can dream of peace for Cyprus and you can do likewise, but there is no way where our wishes will merge. Do you still think I am sensible? We will agree to disagree. I wish for peace, and do you know what? There is peace between the north and the south. We can still try to live as good neighbors. What do you say?

[zan]

I hope I am not speaking out of turn Denizaksulu and I hope the old man keeps a civil tongue in his head towards you (he can shout at me all he likes) but.....If you take a look back at my first couple of posts with this man you will find that we started talking to each other in the same way and with almost the words. The rest is history, as they say in the upper echelons of life.

[Get Real!]

There is peace between the north and the south. We can still try to live as good neighbors. What do you say?

Do you know what's going to be funny Deniz? If and when you come to Cyprus to live and move to the "TRNC" you will very quickly realize that it's not a spoilt London boy's cup of tea and will probably cross South to find your Koumbaro GR to help you find a decent home and have the modern lifestyle you're use to!