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Why Cyprus Is Divided...

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Postby zan » Tue May 22, 2007 9:40 pm

Piratis wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:Anyways I know which one I would choose out of the two too... :? :wink:

HINT: NOT YOU! :lol:


Too bad for you then because Republic of Cyprus is the one and only legal state in Cyprus either you like it or not.

The propaganda of M. Stephen was written many many years ago, posted in many many Turkish propaganda websites by parrots like you. What did you manage? Nothing. Because you can not change history by writing lies, gross exaggerations and half truths.



Still trying to discredit the man and not even going near what he has written. You are so lame mate that you just copy and paste your own material. You seem to try and convince people that just because it has passed through the hands of a Turk then it must be a lie but you never really say which part. You are running out of excuses pal and people are not that stupid. Give them some credit because they are sick and tired of you.
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Postby T_C » Tue May 22, 2007 9:42 pm

He has money to earn I doubt he will be calming down anytime soon..
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Postby Sotos » Tue May 22, 2007 9:43 pm

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Re: Why Cyprus Is Divided...

Postby relatino » Tue May 22, 2007 9:50 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:It is necessary to know what happened in Cyprus between the foundation of the Republic in 1960 and the Turkish intervention in 1974, not for historical interest but in order to determine whether the political status of the Greek Cypriot Administration today, and its acceptance by the world is justified. If the Turkish Cypriots had simply withdrawn from the institutions of the Republic in 1964 with no reasonable excuse, and if the Turkish army had invaded in 1974 without any legal right or humanitarian justification, then perhaps the world would be right to treat the Greek Cypriot Administration as if it were the Government of Cyprus. The truth of the matter is however very different.


This is an important question, because the ability of the Greek Cypriot Administration to enforce an embargo on Turkish Cypriot trade, sport, and communications derives from their acceptance by other countries and institutions as if they were the lawful government of all Cyprus.


The former British Prime Minister, Sir Alec Douglas-Home said in his memoirs[108] he had been convinced that if the Greek Cypriots could not treat the Turkish Cypriots as human beings they were inviting the invasion and partition of the island.



I stopped reading here. It seems you are pretty good doing copy/paste but you could have made a little summary of this block to avoid people to burn their eyes for nothing. Or at least put in bold the important parts. But if all this document is about the IFs: If the GCs didn't do this or if they didn't do that. I can put it simpler: IF the Ottomans had never put a foot in Cypriot soil, then there wouldn't be a Cyprus problem and we wouldn't be talking about it. Simpler. Good day.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 22, 2007 9:52 pm

bigOz wrote:Great post TC but will any GC really read it? If they read it will they understand or want to understand its content? I personally doubt it very much, for if they do they will have no arguments left!

Hence, I am awiting for the next silly question or flawed comment to come flying in your direction... :D


Murataga wrote:turkish_cypriot - Excellent ! However, I worry for the mental health of GCs with a racist background on this forum. Some might go nuts after reading so much hard facts hitting them. 8)


These two “zavalli hayvans” are wondering if the GCs will read it, as if they have read it themselves -set aside whether they have made any sense out of it!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue May 22, 2007 9:57 pm

Sotos wrote:Here is your answer : http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=11265 ;)


I have asked you guys to dispute, if you dare the facts of what we posted and you come up with this. :roll:


Lets have a look at your facts. The only part of your rubbish post that can even be commented on.

New York Times, 31.12.1963
Vice-President Fazil Kutchuk said today that the Cyprus Constitution no longer existed because these was "no possibility" of the Turkish and Greek communities living together on the island. Dr. Kutchuk, leader of the Turkish Cypriots, declared: "the Cyprus Constitution is dead".

New York Herald Tribune, 31.12.1963
"The Cyprus Constitution is dead", Dr. Kutchuk, the leader of the island Republic's Turkish community, told reporters. Asked if he wanted Cyprus partitioned between the Turkish minority and Greek majority, he replied: "Call it partition if you like".

Special News Bulletin, 5.1.1964 (issued by the Turkish Cypriot leadership)
Dr. Kutchuk: "I am a Vice-President elected by the Turks of Cyprus and I shall continue to perform my duties towards them. It is out of the question to collaborate any longer with a Government responsible"

Public statement by Kemal Satir, former Vice-President of Turkey, 1964:
"Cyprus will be divided into two sections, one of which will join Turkey".

Statement by F.C. Erkin the then Foreign Minister of Turkey to an Athens newspaper in June 1964:
"The radical solutionΙ would be to cede one part of Cyprus to Greece and the other, closest to the Turkish Asiatic coast, to Turkey".



Look at the dates Sotos. Do they ring any bells for you. The aim of ENOSIS was more than a hundred years before any of those dates and the height of GCs killing TCs was within those dates. Did you think that we would be too lazy to read that rubbish. Yes some of it is factual but it states nothing compared to what we posted. Maybe you would like to give us some of the parts that you found to be particularly damning.
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Postby Sotos » Tue May 22, 2007 10:04 pm

And the Ottomans killing the GCs was 100 years before that. You started it all. What you post here is rubbish. Why don't you go to my thread and write what exactly you disagree with? ;)
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Re: Why Cyprus Is Divided...

Postby T_C » Wed May 23, 2007 3:13 am

relatino wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:It is necessary to know what happened in Cyprus between the foundation of the Republic in 1960 and the Turkish intervention in 1974, not for historical interest but in order to determine whether the political status of the Greek Cypriot Administration today, and its acceptance by the world is justified. If the Turkish Cypriots had simply withdrawn from the institutions of the Republic in 1964 with no reasonable excuse, and if the Turkish army had invaded in 1974 without any legal right or humanitarian justification, then perhaps the world would be right to treat the Greek Cypriot Administration as if it were the Government of Cyprus. The truth of the matter is however very different.


This is an important question, because the ability of the Greek Cypriot Administration to enforce an embargo on Turkish Cypriot trade, sport, and communications derives from their acceptance by other countries and institutions as if they were the lawful government of all Cyprus.


The former British Prime Minister, Sir Alec Douglas-Home said in his memoirs[108] he had been convinced that if the Greek Cypriots could not treat the Turkish Cypriots as human beings they were inviting the invasion and partition of the island.



I stopped reading here. It seems you are pretty good doing copy/paste but you could have made a little summary of this block to avoid people to burn their eyes for nothing. Or at least put in bold the important parts. But if all this document is about the IFs: If the GCs didn't do this or if they didn't do that. I can put it simpler: IF the Ottomans had never put a foot in Cypriot soil, then there wouldn't be a Cyprus problem and we wouldn't be talking about it. Simpler. Good day.


Yes very good day to you too. :D :lol:

And yes I am "pretty good" at copy and paste! What about you? You good, average, poor? It get's a little tricky at times eh :? :lol:

I didn't want to sumerise anything because I wanted people to read the whole thing, you obviously haven't since you would of realised the only "if's" were at the beginning. :?

If the Ottomans had never set foot on Cyprus then indeed we wouldn't be talking about it..but they did and now your government is slacking in finding a solution to the countries problems! Just chilling since the South is pretty well off, no need to reach a settlement, just keep trying to punish the Turkish Cypriots, to your government that's better than having Cyprus unified. Your leader would rather sell of your country to Turkey than share power with Turkish Cypriots and if things go the way they have been for the last 40 years he will SUCCEED!

Maybe they're afraid to share power. I'd suspect the Greek Cypriot government has a hell of a lot to hide.. :?
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