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Nationality - True or False?

Postby Aphrodite18 » Tue May 22, 2007 3:44 pm

Who can define what it is to be a Cypriot given the below....

An island country in the eastern Mediterranean Sea south of Turkey. Site of an ancient Neolithic culture, the island was settled by Phoenicians c. 800 B.C. and thereafter fell successively to the Assyrians, Egyptians, Persians, Macedonian Greeks, Egyptians again, and finally Romans (58 B.C.). The Byzantines controlled it from A.D. 395 until 1191, when it was captured by Richard I of England during the Third Crusade. Venice annexed it in 1489, Turkey conquered it in 1571, and Great Britain proclaimed its sovereignty in 1914. Cyprus became independent in 1960, but large-scale fighting between Greek and Turkish Cypriots led to the installment of a UN peacekeeping force in 1965. In 1974 Turkey invaded Cyprus and established a separate Turkish state in the northern part. Nicosia is the capital and the largest city. Population: 784,000. :?:
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Postby Aphrodite18 » Tue May 22, 2007 3:45 pm

THE BEST THING TO BE IS A PERSON.. tra la la...
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Re: Nationality - True or False?

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 22, 2007 3:55 pm

Aphrodite18 wrote:Who can define what it is to be a Cypriot given the below....

An island country in the eastern Mediterranean Sea south of Turkey. Site of an ancient Neolithic culture, the island was settled by Phoenicians c. 800 B.C. and thereafter fell successively to the Assyrians, Egyptians, Persians, Macedonian Greeks, Egyptians again, and finally Romans (58 B.C.). The Byzantines controlled it from A.D. 395 until 1191, when it was captured by Richard I of England during the Third Crusade. Venice annexed it in 1489, Turkey conquered it in 1571, and Great Britain proclaimed its sovereignty in 1914. Cyprus became independent in 1960, but large-scale fighting between Greek and Turkish Cypriots led to the installment of a UN peacekeeping force in 1965. In 1974 Turkey invaded Cyprus and established a separate Turkish state in the northern part. Nicosia is the capital and the largest city. Population: 784,000. :?:


Now do the same for every other country and see how big a paragraph you'll get... You needn't go too far back with some countries ie: Tell the Germans they're not Germans but Prussians!

Have fun.
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Postby Aphrodite18 » Tue May 22, 2007 3:58 pm

That's exactly why I did it - hopefully putting some of the passion and steam into perspective for others... hahaha!
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Postby greek.god » Tue May 22, 2007 4:05 pm

Ask an American Citizen who he/she is and you will get a million responses. If we keep fuc..ng each other, one day we'll all be the same.
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Postby Aphrodite18 » Tue May 22, 2007 4:51 pm

You could also go down the other end of the periscope and consider whether the ameaba <?> ever felt the need to have a visa!! Actually if you can't find one try asking Bush - not a lot of difference in the brain cell count.. mind you these days he WOULD need a visa and would most likely get turned down given his peaceful track record.. lol at the silliness of the topic and indeed at myself for also being so silly.
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Postby fanour&#305;o » Wed May 23, 2007 1:02 am

A Cypriot, a person that was born on the island of Cyprus....I guess!
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Postby kafenes » Wed May 23, 2007 1:18 am

Fanooooooooos. We missed you man, where have you been hiding.
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Postby Diogenes » Wed May 23, 2007 2:49 am

Dear Aphrodite 18,

you are right on the "fuzzy boundaries" of the nationality, but it is also what ultimately survived and what the people accepted and embraced. In the case of Cyprus, it is not difficault. There are two nationalities, Greek (majority) and Turks (minority), who live in a state called Cyprus. Cypriot indicates a political identity, NOT a national one.

As Greeks from Cyprus, we should be proud of our Greek identity and heritage. We are above all Greeks. It is not an issue of choosing NOT to be because your state became independent. I am a Greek that lives in a state called Cyprus, that's all. If tomorrow a Cretan becomes politically independent, will he stop being Greek because he is politically independent? Obviously NOT.

Historically, Greeks from Cyprus are among the most ancient Greeks. Recall that the Mycenaeans settled Cyprus around 1600 BC, and Teucrus who fought in the Trojan War was the founder of the city Salamis on Cyprus. All these were, even before many major Greek cities even existed.

There is, nevertheless, a small dislike from some Greeks in Cyprus towards the Greeks in Greece. The reason, i believe, are historical. Here are a few:

- Britain offered Cyprus back to Greece in exchange for Greece entering the war on the side of the Allies, and Greece refused (entering the war anyway)
- Greece "encouraged" mainly for independence of Cyprus rather than re-unification in 1960, although we were fighting for re-unification. But, to be honest with you, i believe it was completely "our" fault we signed the independence. But, that's what happens when you have a priest for president.
- Greece didn't quite help in the 1974 invasion by the Turks.

Greeks from Greece, and Greeks from Cyprus, shouldn't nevertheless FORGET that Greeks from Cyprus are Greeks. Both, unfortunately, tend to forget that, even though Greeks from Cyprus fought along the rest of the Greeks in all major wars of Greece, from the Persian Wars to the WWII.
Also, they fought against Britain in order to re-unite with Greece in 1960.

The reason why they FORGET, i believe, is cultural and sociological. I explain: Most of the Greeks in general (from Cyprus, Greece, etc) are among the most culturally corrupted people in the world. Unfortunately, they lost connection with their TRUE history, heritage and identity. A fake, foreign, given religion (Christianity), was imposed on them, and changed their mentality and character.
Just think of this: Most Greeks celebrate the Three Hierarchs Day on Jan. 30th (who, by the way they were all Anti-Greek), but don't celebrate, honor the Thermopylae Day in Sept. 18th. Most of them have NO clue when it occurred. That's a shame...Keep in mind, that that's the same Church that officially condemned the Revolution against the Turks in the 1821 !!
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Postby LENA » Wed May 23, 2007 3:29 am

Diogenes wrote:Greeks from Greece, and Greeks from Cyprus, shouldn't nevertheless FORGET that Greeks from Cyprus are Greeks. Both, unfortunately, tend to forget that, even though Greeks from Cyprus fought along the rest of the Greeks in all major wars of Greece, from the Persian Wars to the WWII.
Also, they fought against Britain in order to re-unite with Greece in 1960.

The reason why they FORGET, i believe, is cultural and sociological. I explain: Most of the Greeks in general (from Cyprus, Greece, etc) are among the most culturally corrupted people in the world. Unfortunately, they lost connection with their TRUE history, heritage and identity. A fake, foreign, given religion (Christianity), was imposed on them, and changed their mentality and character.
Just think of this: Most Greeks celebrate the Three Hierarchs Day on Jan. 30th (who, by the way they were all Anti-Greek), but don't celebrate, honor the Thermopylae Day in Sept. 18th. Most of them have NO clue when it occurred. That's a shame...Keep in mind, that that's the same Church that officially condemned the Revolution against the Turks in the 1821 !!


I have a question here and forgive my low ability of comprehension... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Well If the people from Greece are named Greeks and the people from Cyprus (who are Christians) are named Greeks as well...who are the Cypriots one? Are the Cypriots the people from Cyprus who are Muslims? Really you have to explain me that because i was told that I am Cypriot now you tell me that I am Greek or Muslim...so please let me know to find out who I really am!!!!
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