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[LENA]

May I ask some members why you doubt about Kikapu. . . and especially VP. . . since you say that you are TC and male and that you met Zan and he can prove that. . . why you still doubt about Kikapus? Why he has to be GC since other members met him as well? Because of his views? Are all the TC think in the same way? If someone believe something else than the majority that makes him GC? And via versa. I really dont understand why different views have to make you guys insult each other? VP you even call Kikapu's children "bastards"... ...I am not sure how bad is for you this but for us is really a big insult to someone. I dont even use that word even if it is true!
Why the fact that he believe something else than the majority of the TCs and he has done few Turkish spelling mistakes make him GC? Probably he doesnt use Turkish in his everyday life? Is normal to forget some things . . . Why are so bad few mistakes that made all of you create a whole thread and even insult him? He is human not God. Only God is perfect!
And to Kikapu and others . . . why VP and Zan are females? I am sure that other members have met one of them at least. So they can prove if they are male or female. Even if VP is a woman . . . what that has to do with the Cyprus problem? Is any of our lovely members here racist? Does anyone believe that because he is a woman he can not post his view? (VP I am not saying that you are a woman, don’t get me wrong)

You have stop talking about the real issue here and you talk about d* and p* !! What of VP is a woman or a man? That makes him less human? What if Kikapu is TC or GC? That makes him less Cypriot or less human?

Now...next time you will post use your upper head!

Lena if you had bothered to read and understand the posts in this thread you would have noticed how the female male thing evolved and who started it. You appear to ignore everything Ms Kikapolpsis posts and concentrate more on the TCs posters.

Even Bir shows signs of arguement in favor of the TC viewpoint but Ms Kikapolusis shows none of this which reveals he is either a GC or he has lost and emotion or empathy towards his own community.

I am 99% polite in my posts but when constantly provoked I can give give as good as I get. Should you not have mentioned the idiot who raised the bastardized issue first, If you attack in such a fashion you cannot expect anyone to stay calm for very long as I and other TCs have said you give a TC the time of day and he will open his home up to you but slap him and he will kick your head in, always be aware of this fact.

You are wrong VP...I said that is ridiculous the whole thing. . . "he is GC not a TC" and "VP is Miss and not Mr" . . . I dont read everything VP you are right. . . first of all i dont have so much free time any more and second of all I am fed up with you guys talking about nonsense. I am sorry but I use to enjoy this section and now doesnt even worth to read it. And you VP I used to post in favour your posts. If you remember I used to say that at least you had arguments and you could talk and discuss in more calm way. . . but now. . . to be honest I pass your post without reading them. You use a lot of copy paste (boring. . .If i wanted to make a research I could do it by my self) and you dont use insults as a 1% of your posts but a lot more than that. 1% used to be few months ago not any more

You really can not get my point do you? I read what Bir say and what Kikapu. I post in favour of TC some times as well...what that means? That I am TC as well? VP I am talking about humans here with different opinions, views and believes. And most of us here are Cypriots. What our opinion has to do with what we are and what language we speak?

Kikapu put the "Bastartised TRNC Cypriot" with inverted comma meaning that you are not a real Cypriot. . .I said that I dont agree with that word at all. . . but calling his children bastards is really a different thing! And I am sure you know what i mean.

I will start believing Kikapu is right. You do hate GC! You call him "GC" like is an insult. Thats why I came against you! Not only about the "bastard" thing which you really with that you let me down totally. I tall you several times before that you change your attitude and you insult people. . . but lately is more insults than anything else!

[LENA]

Yes Miss VP , you did agree in principle on the 1 country 2 states solution, but all you talk about, is Partition. Just because I proposed those measures which were hard for you not to accept without looking like a "dickhead", does not mean, that you want it put in practice. You see, the reason why I bring up my cousins husbands words often, is because he told me the truth, and that he said, "no matter what is offered, we do not want to unite with the Greeks". So you may have agreed with me, but were you just telling me what I wanted to hear, as the husband said " we tell what the International community wants to hear, that's all". If you believe in what you say, then where is the drive, to accept the concept of the BBF. Why are your team of Propagandist are not talking about them.? Why have you not blamed Talat for not pushing this idea, as you blame PappaD for not pushing it to get it done.? So before you try to take the "high road" on this matter, tell us why, your primary drive is Partition. Well, then take the 18%, and have a wonderful life in the Never Never Land.

PS. I had no authority to give you 18% of Cyprus. It was my own generous offer .

Kikapu should we clap for that post? Apart from the insults your last comment was like you own Cyprus and you share pieces like it was your birthday cake! Great guys! Just lovely!

I think you are nothing but a big pussy! Your ideas have no direction, you come up with crab and address TC's as "you" and GCs as "us", make sarcastic offers to TCs as solutions, and expect anyone to believe you are a TC? Nothing wrong with being a GC, Tc or a brit but at least we all know what we are - DO YOU? I do not think so somehow!

But here Big OZ didn’t want you to feel lonely so he wanted to make you company on that insult game! So bigOz, you believe that “pussies” as you said their ideas have no directions or you believe that they don’t know who they are?


So you lovely gentlemen, what kind of diamonds do you hide in your mouth? What else?

[zan]

I think the most logical explanation, if he is a TC, is that he has a lot of land in the south and he cannot claim it from those crooks that say they speak for all the Cypriots. It is his greed that he tries to offset on his cousin’s husband, fictitious as that is, that is driving him forward. That is why he had to go to he south and not the north. His trip was in vain though because they did not even give him a birth certificate let alone his land back. Can't blame a guy for trying though. His dreams of owning a massive yacht have been eating him up for too long now......

I can for sure say, that you are definitely NO Perry Mason. Perhaps the "Pink Panther", then again, only the Cartoon Version.

I did not get my Birth Certificate, because I did not need one, and secondly, I did not want to go to another location, where they were issued, and not at the District Office of Nicosia. I thought you read my "REPORT".?

As far as the land issue goes, there are NO restriction on us from the RoC, since we all left Cyprus before 1974, and have not taken any GC land in the "TRNC", or reside there, or bought or sold and GC land.

Hope this helps you a little.

Pink panther now was that not the same name I gave to pyro......Just so you do not misunderstand again.
"You see those smilies at the buttom of my post Kikapyros, they mean that I was not being toooooo serious buddy!" (Written in American for Kikapyros mam) I really could not give a rabbits right bollock why, where and what for you chose to go to the "RoC" but the crap you came back with is still dribbling out of the corners of your mouth. "Now hush your mouth their varmint coz the smell is turning my mustaaaaash green".

[LENA]

I think the most logical explanation, if he is a TC, is that he has a lot of land in the south and he cannot claim it from those crooks that say they speak for all the Cypriots. It is his greed that he tries to offset on his cousin’s husband, fictitious as that is, that is driving him forward. That is why he had to go to he south and not the north. His trip was in vain though because they did not even give him a birth certificate let alone his land back. Can't blame a guy for trying though. His dreams of owning a massive yacht have been eating him up for too long now......

I can for sure say, that you are definitely NO Perry Mason. Perhaps the "Pink Panther", then again, only the Cartoon Version.

I did not get my Birth Certificate, because I did not need one, and secondly, I did not want to go to another location, where they were issued, and not at the District Office of Nicosia. I thought you read my "REPORT".?

As far as the land issue goes, there are NO restriction on us from the RoC, since we all left Cyprus before 1974, and have not taken any GC land in the "TRNC", or reside there, or bought or sold and GC land.

Hope this helps you a little.

Pink panther now was that not the same name I gave to pyro......Just so you do not misunderstand again.
"You see those smilies at the buttom of my post Kikapyros, they mean that I was not being toooooo serious buddy!" (Written in American for Kikapyros mam) I really could not give a rabbits right bollock why, where and what for you chose to go to the "RoC" but the crap you came back with is still dribbling out of the corners of your mouth. "Now hush your mouth their varmint coz the smell is turning my mustaaaaash green".

You have a moustache?

[Viewpoint]

LENA

You are wrong VP...I said that is ridiculous the whole thing. . . "he is GC not a TC" and "VP is Miss and not Mr" . .

You reap what you sow I have no objections to him using Miss as this does not offend me and I return the compliment. He has twisted and posted my nickname in many forms why did you not speak up then when they far worse than anything I have posted. Is calling Kikapolousis a GC or Ms an insult, why should it be, Im trying to express he is more in your camp and argues the GC viewpoint not once has he spoken in favor of TCs or anything that goes against GC policies. Now do you understand where I am coming from?

I dont read everything VP you are right. . . first of all i dont have so much free time any more and second of all I am fed up with you guys talking about nonsense.

Then how can you try and put a healthy reponse you only part of the debate. Maybe you should read the thread in full before attacking one side.

I am sorry but I use to enjoy this section and now doesnt even worth to read it. And you VP I used to post in favour your posts. If you remember I used to say that at least you had arguments and you could talk and discuss in more calm way. . . but now. . . to be honest I pass your post without reading them. You use a lot of copy paste (boring. . .If i wanted to make a research I could do it by my self) and you dont use insults as a 1% of your posts but a lot more than that. 1% used to be few months ago not any more

Same with me, I no longer enjoy going around in circles with blinkered posters who try to force their opnion from thousands of miles away and have not interacted with their own community in over 40 years.

You are wrong and must have me confused with someone else I very rarely copy paste, would appreciate you getting your facts right.

So the sums I very rarely swear but when provoked I can give as good as I get why do you not speak up when others like miltiades and Kikapuolous swear in the synical and degrading manner which they are experts at?

You really can not get my point do you? I read what Bir say and what Kikapu. I post in favour of TC some times as well...what that means? That I am TC as well? VP I am talking about humans here with different opinions, views and believes. And most of us here are Cypriots. What our opinion has to do with what we are and what language we speak?

Both these posters are more inline with GC viewpoint. You have views which support both sides Ms Kikapolousis had purely GC views Im sure you can workout the rest.

Kikapu put the "Bastartised TRNC Cypriot" with inverted comma meaning that you are not a real Cypriot. . .I said that I dont agree with that word at all. . . but calling his children bastards is really a different thing! And I am sure you know what i mean.

Ask him why he introduced bastardized which is not well recieved at the best of times surely if you are playing mother Terresa you should have jumped on him first and adverted my comparision to his children which are probably more bastards seeing that he has so many partners (current one also out of wed lock) that he has probably forgotten where his children are. If you play with fire Lena you are sure to get burnt.

I will start believing Kikapu is right. You do hate GC! You call him "GC" like is an insult. Thats why I came against you! Not only about the "bastard" thing which you really with that you let me down totally. I tall you several times before that you change your attitude and you insult people. . . but lately is more insults than anything else!

I do not hate anyone not even Ms Kikapolousis only the "RoC" and what they are trying to do to the TCs. Calling someone a GC is not an insult in my book unless you yourself do not value them, you give a bad response: My refernce to aligning Ms Kikapolousis with Gcs is that he acts, thinks, argues and talks just like them, plus he is so fond of them he might as well change his name and religion and be one of them if he already isnt that is

I do not insult anyone unless insulted first its not my nature, prove me wrong if you wish and I will apologise, otherwise you can do the decent thing and apologise to me for putting me in the foul mouthed catagory with miltiades and Ms Kikapolousis....

[Viewpoint]

Even Bir shows signs of arguement in favor of the TC viewpoint but Ms Kikapolusis shows none of this which reveals he is either a GC or he has lost and emotion or empathy towards his own community.

I am 99% polite in my posts but when constantly provoked I can give give as good as I get. Should you not have mentioned the idiot who raised the bastardized issue first, If you attack in such a fashion you cannot expect anyone to stay calm for very long as I and other TCs have said you give a TC the time of day and he will open his home up to you but slap him and he will kick your head in, always be aware of this fact.

Miss VP,

My arguments are with the Partitionist and not with the TC's in General Miss VP. If you look closely, my posts to certain members differ greatly than the ones to you and Zan. It is you who wants to rap yourself in the arms of the good TC Cypriots, to seek protection from my comments to you. You use them as a shield, then you accuse me of insulting the TC's. I have no intentions of insulting the TC and nor do I do it. But to the Partitionist, that is another story.

Lets face it Miss VP. You are a Mean Spirited and Hateful Person. You have no regards to women, as you like to use the "C" word on at least 3 occasions to describe a females genitalia, as well as what seemed to be a pleasurable experience for you, when you went on and on about how the Turkish Soldiers raped the young and old GC women in the 1974 Invasion. You have a deep seeded hate towards the GC's, and just because I do not wish to follow your 15th Century mind set, you come up with names.

I think that just about covers your pathetic life. I hope your family does not read, what you write.

Pathetic drivel, if you hit someone over the head enough times they will sure hit you back and very hard, look back at those posts and the context in which I was provoked. My usage of the word Cunt was to label the person concerned what they were resembling during those debates, pretty much like you in this post, its a common expression used by the English when someone is being a real bastard and shouting his mouth off, being rude and annoying everyone.

The TCs are my people, we are entwined and one something you would know absoulutely nothing about, seeing you have not interacted with them for 42 years. You insult me you insult them, you insult them and you insult me thats how it works, try getting an understanding I know it may be difficult having never lived with your own community.

I dont hate any one person only the "RoC" and what it is trying to do to the TCs.

My family are proud of me and have not disowned me like yours have you, I get a lot of insipration from them all the ages range from 75yo to the 12yo, they all have opinions and viewpoints which brings in a lot of experience of the past and the youthful view of the Cyprus problem and the future.

Your 14th century mindset is shining through Ms Kikapolousis well done.

[Viewpoint]

Look Ms Kikapolousis we are getting nowhere although you argue with me on nearly everything you seem to have conveniently forgotten that we agreed a 2 state 1 country solution sometime ago. So whats the point of going around in circles, you get your GCs brothers and sisters to accept what you preach and then we might get somewhere but in the meantime I will continue to love and nurture the TRNC until a time if it ever arrives when the alternative put before me is a better option but for now the stakes are the TRNC vs "RoC" well the TRNC wins hands down for the majority of TCs.

Yes Miss VP, you did agree in principle on the 1 country 2 states solution, but all you talk about, is Partition. Just because I proposed those measures which were hard for you not to accept without looking like a "dickhead", does not mean, that you want it put in practice. You see, the reason why I bring up my cousins husbands words often, is because he told me the truth, and that he said, "no matter what is offered, we do not want to unite with the Greeks". So you may have agreed with me, but were you just telling me what I wanted to hear, as the husband said " we tell what the International community wants to hear, that's all". If you believe in what you say, then where is the drive, to accept the concept of the BBF. Why are your team of Propagandist are not talking about them.? Why have you not blamed Talat for not pushing this idea, as you blame PappaD for not pushing it to get it done.? So before you try to take the "high road" on this matter, tell us why, your primary drive is Partition. Well, then take the 18%, and have a wonderful life in the Never Never Land.

PS. I had no authority to give you 18% of Cyprus. It was my own generous offer.

Lets just call it a day. We are getting nowhere and both wasting our time. You obvioulsly do not want to understand me and I do not trust you, sums up the Cyprus problem really. I will try not responding to your posts as long as you do not attack mine, good luck and good bye.

[T_C]

I have to get this cleared up aswell...

I did not open this thread because of Kikapus views, and I didn't say he was GC as a way of insulting him either. Sometimes I see their views as too extreme and I speak out but in this case I pointed out that post of his because of his attitude which GENUINELY led me to believe he was a GC.

Lena also picked up on it when she said;

Kikapu should we clap for that post? Apart from the insults your last comment was like you own Cyprus and you share pieces like it was your birthday cake! Great guys! Just lovely!

(BTW: sorry Lena, I'm not using your post against Kikapu, I'm just trying to explain how/why I came to my conclusion)

I found it odd that someone neutral and a so-called Turkish Cypriot would make demands to Turkish Cypriots in regards to settlement. Afterall if he's not a GC who is he to list things that would be upto the GCs to ask for. And specially talking about budgets and what we can/can't do with our state...isn't that something a bit too extreme to come out with considering he's Turkish Cypriot?

These are not posts from someone neutral even if he is a Turkish Cypriot. I can't prove he isn't, though I can prove why I don't think he is a TC

[Kikapu]

I have to get this cleared up aswell...

I did not open this thread because of Kikapus views, and I didn't say he was GC as a way of insulting him either. Sometimes I see their views as too extreme and I speak out but in this case I pointed out that post of his because of his attitude which GENUINELY led me to believe he was a GC.

Lena also picked up on it when she said;

Kikapu should we clap for that post? Apart from the insults your last comment was like you own Cyprus and you share pieces like it was your birthday cake! Great guys! Just lovely!

(BTW: sorry Lena, I'm not using your post against Kikapu, I'm just trying to explain how/why I came to my conclusion)

I found it odd that someone neutral and a so-called Turkish Cypriot would make demands to Turkish Cypriots in regards to settlement. Afterall if he's not a GC who is he to list things that would be upto the GCs to ask for. And specially talking about budgets and what we can/can't do with our state...isn't that something a bit too extreme to come out with considering he's Turkish Cypriot?

These are not posts from someone neutral even if he is a Turkish Cypriot. I can't prove he isn't, though I can prove why I don't think he is a TC

T_C,

I'm just a common Cypriot who wants his country in one piece for all of us to enjoy it. If the island id divided into 2, then there never going to be peace, and you are going to end up crazy driving in only one small part of the island in your car.

I get very mad and say a lot of bad things against the Republicans and George Bush. Does that make me any less an American. I see it as our duty to protect the land that we were born in, a very important task for all citizens of any nation. Why do you think, hundreds of thousands of Americans died, during the American Civil War. Most died to protect the "Republic" from breaking up, and not to allow the Southern states "the Confederates" to carry on with the slavery of the blacks, by dividing the Union into North and South. Those in the South were only interested in their slave trade and free labour, therefore it was purely for greed and domination of the slaves. I see the Partitionist a little bit like the "Confederates", who are after their own personal gains, and not what Abraham Lincoln did, was to protect the Union, by keeping America as one.

Judge for yourself, of the results of America today.

Perhaps that's were the saying comes from, " United we stand, divided we fall".

[zan]

I have to get this cleared up aswell...

I did not open this thread because of Kikapus views, and I didn't say he was GC as a way of insulting him either. Sometimes I see their views as too extreme and I speak out but in this case I pointed out that post of his because of his attitude which GENUINELY led me to believe he was a GC.

Lena also picked up on it when she said;

Kikapu should we clap for that post? Apart from the insults your last comment was like you own Cyprus and you share pieces like it was your birthday cake! Great guys! Just lovely!

(BTW: sorry Lena, I'm not using your post against Kikapu, I'm just trying to explain how/why I came to my conclusion)

I found it odd that someone neutral and a so-called Turkish Cypriot would make demands to Turkish Cypriots in regards to settlement. Afterall if he's not a GC who is he to list things that would be upto the GCs to ask for. And specially talking about budgets and what we can/can't do with our state...isn't that something a bit too extreme to come out with considering he's Turkish Cypriot?

These are not posts from someone neutral even if he is a Turkish Cypriot. I can't prove he isn't, though I can prove why I don't think he is a TC

T_C,

I'm just a common Cypriot who wants his country in one piece for all of us to enjoy it. If the island id divided into 2, then there never going to be peace, and you are going to end up crazy driving in only one small part of the island in your car.

I get very mad and say a lot of bad things against the Republicans and George Bush. Does that make me any less an American. I see it as our duty to protect the land that we were born in, a very important task for all citizens of any nation. Why do you think, hundreds of thousands of Americans died, during the American Civil War. Most died to protect the "Republic" from breaking up, and not to allow the Southern states "the Confederates" to carry on with the slavery of the blacks, by dividing the Union into North and South. Those in the South were only interested in their slave trade and free labour, therefore it was purely for greed and domination of the slaves. I see the Partitionist a little bit like the "Confederates", who are after their own personal gains, and not what Abraham Lincoln did, was to protect the Union, by keeping America as one.

Judge for yourself, of the results of America today.

Perhaps that's were the saying comes from, " United we stand, divided we fall".

It is also your duty to be fair and you simply are not. Your need for a united Cyprus does not mean you can discard what has gone on before.