LENA wrote:Viewpoint wrote:Lena lets just agree to disagree we both have our point of view which makes it difficult for us to accept the other sides truths.
If we look to the end result, it shows us that Cyprus is better off divided as the chasm is to wide to bridge, neither side like us wants to yield to the other sides rights and wrongs. So why not have the 2 equal states solution where Cypriots can settle where ever they wish, north or south. That way you do not have to work with me and I do not have to work with you. We can strengthen our neighbourly relations and if we see fit in years to come we can work together, as my fear is that any other solution would cause contempt flaring into intercommunal troubles just like Israel and Palestine, is that what you want? You claim to have been forced into 1960 agreements and look how that ended, another failed union would bring very dire and dangerous conditions to our island.
VP, I notice so many characteristics of you in this thread …other are good and other not so. But I am honest person and I am not going to hide my opinion…I told you are a clever man and you want to protect your family and your beloveds. And you are trying to protect and support your views with every possible way even if that is to avoid to admit that you are wrong and with general comment just tying to go round and not straight to the point. When I ask you things and you had to admit that you were wrong you just avoid answering or you change subject by saying something else. Ok VP…as you wish…I agree to disagree. But don’t you ever come to my by telling my again that I am one sided because I am not…in this thread and to others I admitted so many time that GC had made so many mistakes and our government still does…but for you we are guilty here and you are the innocent unprotected people who the lovely Turkey came with peaceful ideas to protect you…:roll: VP really you have to rethink your believes… in the other threat Gizzy who is a TC admitted that things are not so pleasant as you want to present them.
And one last point…no I don’t think that unification is not going to work. I believe it will and I look forward to that. I am scared not with the idea of unification but with the idea that the GC are reluctant on their lives and one day decide to occupy the whole island.
halil wrote:to all of u !!!!!!!!!
Whom do you trust
A neighbour comes to the gate of Nasreddin Hoja's yard. The Hoja goes out to meet him outside.
"Would you mind, Hoja," the neighbour asks, "lending me your donkey today? I have some goods to transport to the next town."
The Hoja doesn't feel inclined to lend out the animal to that particular man, however; so, not to seem rude, he answers:
"I'm sorry, but I've already lent him to somebody else."
Suddenly the donkey can be heard braying loudly behind the wall of the yard.
"You lied to me, Hoja!" the neighbour exclaims. "There it is behind that wall!"
"What do you mean?" the Hoja replies indignantly. "Whom would you rather believe, a donkey or your Hoja?"
Halil, one more time you earn my respect. You always had my respect…but with this example VP might understand even more of what I am trying to say here, if he is willing to understand what the example is talking about. Thank you for the example.
Lena on what subject have I not given you a stright answer? I thinks you feel this way becuase it snot what you want to hear. You appear to know more about the TRNC abd our relations with Turkey than we do, well done, if I am saying what I am experiencing every day, you are so clever that you tell me I am wrong and that you know better, bravo how do you do it? If you bank all your opinions on 1 TC girl who dont forget is a product of the TRNC then if we were trying to brainwash our children then we are not doing a good job. My children are the same, they couldnt care less about the south, the only time they remember it is for shopping, now the novelty has worn off we may visit maybe once or twice a year, theres nothing there for us, just like any other foreign country once youve seen it no real need to go back.
As for Turkey would you hate a person you deem to have saved your life? we will always be indebted to Turkey you have to understand our special relationship as we understand your hatred towards them fuelled by your pain of 1974.
I am afraid at this rate your life time will not be enough to find a solution to the Cyprus issue, the will, need vision or desire is non exsistent. The rest is all hot air. As for your prediction that GCs will try to occupy the whole island then dont expect us to sit back and accept this.
I also think the Hodja reflects the GCs, when refering to the division of the island or that the "RoC" represents TCs, you can see it they way it suits you, how do you see it?
I dont think so!
