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That was low Kikapu....VP must of touched a raw nerve there...

Miss VP couldn't even touch his cock...wait a minute, how could she.

No more free rides for that cock sucker.

Is admin around? or is this standard acceptable?

[Kikapu]

That was low Kikapu....VP must of touched a raw nerve there...

Miss VP couldn't even touch his cock...wait a minute, how could she.

No more free rides for that cock sucker.

Is admin around? or is this standard acceptable?

Sorry Miss VP, I meant to say "lousy cock sucker".

[LENA]

Ok your both grounded...Happy now VP...what the hell I am doing here...I give up...VP and Kikapu...really I am offering you one year free...all the expenses paid by me...one year attendance to my class...i will try and get the younger age...just for you two guys, and even if they wear diapers even better...it will suit better for your age.

[Viewpoint]

Dear Lena, thank you for your long and detailed response. So what you are saying in short is that if someone should provoke swear, punch and spit at you, you should turn the other cheek because if you give back what you get or worse than you are no better.

Well forgive me if my patience level is not as high as yours but if someone continuously abuses me I can only tollerate this to a certain degree after which I have to defend myself or otherwise I have no repect for myself. These school boy bully tactics are well known and the best way to shut them up is come down on them like a ton of bricks to bring home that if you continue you could get far worse in return. In your methodolgy you give people like Ms Kikapolousis the green light to continue with their verbal abuse of others, should we just sit back and do nothing? or should we take action to ensure they do not continue vomitting their vile verbal abuse at others. Telling people not to do certain things like the scarcastic and vile posts certain posters continue to produce is not enough you have to give them a taste of their own medicine so they just maybe sit back and say well this is not very pleasant I should stop.

As for the rest of your comments they are noted and lets just agree to disagree.

What I have learned from this forum has taught me that I am right and that partition is what we deserve, people on both sides are slowly realizing that what I am saying is the best way to bring this problem to a close, its only a matter of time that the majority will agree and say maybe we are better off divided as the chasm is to wide to bridge.

Lena you have to realize that for me the TRNC is my country like the "RoC" is yours I have no affliations or recollections of places or people in the south. I see and live on a daily what the "RoC" do for and against us and the şast 15 years have been a real eye opener for me as living abroad I was very much like yourself. Willing to give it a go, but after the borders opened up and we interacted and we experienced the referendum plus this forum I changed my stance and truely feel that agreed partition is the best solution for both sides as I cannot guarantee that a fanatic from myside will not bomb a GC school and kill innocent children, is this what you want another Israel/Palestine? but I can guarantee this if we are divided. The chasms and wounds are to deep to go back and unite thinking everyone will be happy, this forum is just the tip of the iceberg, do you want to put my children into such a risky situation when you have the option to guarantee their safety divided?

[Viewpoint]

Ok your both grounded...Happy now VP...what the hell I am doing here...I give up...VP and Kikapu...really I am offering you one year free...all the expenses paid by me...one year attendance to my class...i will try and get the younger age...just for you two guys, and even if they wear diapers even better...it will suit better for your age.

Lena is that it? You have written post upon post to me about insults,, turning the other cheek and how we should all make the effort to understand each other and get along and all you have to say to Ms Kikapolusis is the above, do you feel thats very balanced or unbiased?

At least my comment that you hate so much and got you annoyed was true, children born out of wed lock are called bastards.

[zan]

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hey Zan, you never answered my question. WHere you for or against the annan plan? (If you have and i haven't read it apologies)

Great Zan-tini said he never read the AP, but he knows it was a great plan all the same. The reason why he knows it was a great plan, because the TC's gave a resounding YES and the GC'S gave a resounding NO.

Other than that, it must have been a Great Plan.

The TCs gave a resounding yes for your much beloved Unification Kikapyros..Is that not what you want. You keep trying to persuade us that that is the be all and end all of everything...Unification. You could have had it then. You seem to think, in your Greek way, that it is all right for us TCs to give everything for unification but not so for the GCS. Double standards once again for the TCs you hate so much. Can we have your resignation now like Bir or are you waiting to be fired also so you can stamp your feet and blame others for your stupidity. You are so one sided that it is clear that you hate the TCs so go live in the "RoC" and be happy. I promise we will not shed a tear over you.


Unification my arse….Why don’t you act like a man and tell us what you really want so we can talk like adults little man…….

Lets not forget what my cousins Husband said, who spoke the truth, that you and your other charlatans do not want to acknowledge, and that was " we voted for the plan and not for peace", so go and peddle your "peace missions" somewhere else.

Yes I know you would like to be the Hitlers of today, to try take away peoples citizenship's and rights and identity. Well guess what my little Nazi friend, I do not belong to the de facto illegal "Bastardised Nation of the TRNC", so you cannot take anything from me, since True Turkish Cypriots like Bir and myself, will always have our Cypriot Citizenship and Turkish Cypriotness way beyond you will ever establish any legalities in the North. Yes my little Nazi Fascist friend along with your girlfriend Miss VP, on how much joy and salivation you two were exchanging over Bir's "resignation" from your sick ideology. Miss VP once again showed the true nature of herself with the venom running through her Mean Spirited and Hateful self. There's only one place for you Nazis, and that will come soon enough. No it is not the "TRNC", but close enough.!!!!

Go on mrs Cypriot, give it all you've got. Wanna tell me how much you want to kill me....Go on. It will be better for your health. Let it all out.............

[bigOz]

Kikapu wrote

Yes my little Nazi Fascist friend along with your girlfriend Miss VP, on how much joy and salivation you two were exchanging over Bir's "resignation" from your sick ideology. Miss VP once again showed the true nature of herself with the venom running through her Mean Spirited and Hateful self. There's only one place for you Nazis, and that will come soon enough. No it is not the "TRNC", but close enough.!!!!

That one is coming from someone who claims to be living in Switzerland? Let me jog my memory now... The same place that provided sanctuary to many Nazi's, and more importantly salivated over the immoral tons of gold and loot deposited in their banks during/after the Second World War!

What can I say?...

[LENA]

VP, look…I will do it one more time and I hope you will understand…I will try to explain with another way…

But don’t come back to me if you don’t do your homework…

So…remember….darkred for the reasons that I posted at first place here…
Green for answers to your underline words
And red for advice

You forced me to draw it for you…

Why I posted at first place, what for…

VP I am talking about humans here with different opinions, views and believes. And most of us here are Cypriots. What our opinion has to do with what we are and what language we speak?

They didn’t teach you to respect other people? If you don’t respect him, respect those children (if they exist, I don’t even know if he has children) but VP what he does in his life is his problem, not yours. When I tried to warn people about Fanos, without mentioning anything about his life, everybody judge me here. But here, you cross the line, you not even interfere into his personal life but you judge him as well. You should apologise for that VP. Really I didn’t believe that you will fall so low for some political arguments. And I am sorry but I am not Terresa or saint, but at least I know how to talk.

[colour=darkred] My dear VP lets try one more time, the post that make me angry with you was the post about his children and mentioning that I open the whole package.
I came to you because I used to respect your views even if it was against mine. VP, I don’t think that you need compliments, I express my opinion about you many time, even when everybody accuse you for being government employee or female I stand for you, and I said many times that I loved to argue with you…because you knew how to talk and not bark. But now you give the opposite picture here with your words
Really fall low, insult people, use their weapons doesn’t make you different from them. Do you want to act like that? Is your problem…but I am not going to respect you any more…I know that doesn’t sound as a big deal…but I am not going to send you in the corner for that. You are a big boy now!
VP, I am sorry for yelling but I will say it one last time with capital letters and might be you will be able to read it again and get my point straight this time. YOU INSULT HIM INTO A PERSONAL LEVEL, YOU INSULT HIS CHILDREN. YOU WENT TOO FAR AWAY FROM POLITICAL LEVEL AND ARGUMENTS.
Got it now? I attack you, mostly because of what you said about his children. Clear or should I draw it for you next time?
To be honest I used to believe that you knew how to talk and not bark and insult. I am sorry that I comment that you are loosing respect from people who used to respect you. And then you wonder why people call you names …even if they didn’t like you at first place imagine now…[/color]

Dear Lena, thank you for your long and detailed response. So what you are saying in short is that if someone should provoke swear, punch and spit at you, you should turn the other cheek because if you give back what you get or worse than you are no better.

VP, are you saying that because you are a TC I have to tell you evet efendim? ???Are you serious? That is general, if you are willing to listen they will explain, if you are willing to hear you will understand, listening doesn’t force you to accept what others tell you, insulting people is not the way to be heart. In our religion we learn that if people slap you turn the other cheek as well. Well, let me tell you that almost none do that. Is not a part of Christians or Greeks or TC is part of being human. We have blood and when somebody insult you…that upset you and you want to kill him/her or slap him/her, insult him/her back etc. Do you think is wise to slap them? I am making the same question to you. Is it wise VP? I am not superior of anybody else here…but if someone treat me low, talk to me low…I am not going to [colour=red] fall to his/her level and do the same. Anliyor musun? Do you understand? Me katalamvaineis? ??? [/color]

Well forgive me if my patience level is not as high as yours but if someone continuously abuses me I can only tollerate this to a certain degree after which I have to defend myself or otherwise I have no repect for myself. These school boy bully tactics are well known and the best way to shut them up is come down on them like a ton of bricks to bring home that if you continue you could get far worse in return. In your methodolgy you give people like Ms Kikapolousis the green light to continue with their verbal abuse of others, should we just sit back and do nothing? or should we take action to ensure they do not continue vomitting their vile verbal abuse at others. Telling people not to do certain things like the scarcastic and vile posts certain posters continue to produce is not enough you have to give them a taste of their own medicine so they just maybe sit back and say well this is not very pleasant I should stop.

Do you think I do not defend my self? Have you ever heard me to insult anybody? Have you see any kind of insult from me towards a member here? VP, I am not perfect, but writing something and not opening our mouth gives us the opportunity to read what we type and correct it.
In my methodology, is not included any insult approach, that is for sure. I didn’t say to you do not reply to him…I said do not insult. I didn’t say that Kikapu is the perfect member here that does not insult anybody and you are the worst that you insult everybody else. But as I told you, when I join I used to read what you wrote with interest, even if I didn’t agree with you. VP, we have different views in some issues but at least I thought we were the same on the matter that we reply to the challenge and we give pour arguments with a proper way. Sorry if I was wrong on my judgment about you. By taking actions, doesn’t mean that you insult people. So if you will have to take actions in Cyprus that things are a lot more difficult you will start killing people to solve them? Is that YOUR METHODOLOGY?

As for the rest of your comments they are noted and lets just agree to disagree.

Deal! Fine by me

What I have learned from this forum has taught me that I am right and that partition is what we deserve, people on both sides are slowly realizing that what I am saying is the best way to bring this problem to a close, its only a matter of time that the majority will agree and say maybe we are better off divided as the chasm is to wide to bridge.

VP…really now you made me wonder…are we posting in different kind of forums? Because before I joined to be honest, when I was living in Cyprus, I believed the same thing, but since I joined the forum I changed my mind. Something is not right here…

Lena you have to realize that for me the TRNC is my country like the "RoC" is yours I have no affliations or recollections of places or people in the south. I see and live on a daily what the "RoC" do for and against us and the şast 15 years have been a real eye opener for me as living abroad I was very much like yourself. Willing to give it a go, but after the borders opened up and we interacted and we experienced the referendum plus this forum I changed my stance and truely feel that agreed partition is the best solution for both sides as I cannot guarantee that a fanatic from myside will not bomb a GC school and kill innocent children, is this what you want another Israel/Palestine? but I can guarantee this if we are divided. The chasms and wounds are to deep to go back and unite thinking everyone will be happy, this forum is just the tip of the iceberg, do you want to put my children into such a risky situation when you have the option to guarantee their safety divided?

RoC is not my country…my country is Cyprus and I do not know any country named “TRNC” even online maps do not recognised that…why is that? Where are you from VP? Where do you live? Is it one of those dream countries? Is it in this planet or elsewhere?
So I will have to withdraw my question? You are willing to kill people for the solution of the Cyprus problem, and if not you as you said fanatics from your side…is that what you said? Did I understand that correct? VP I am a teacher and I probably I will be in one of those schools you are saying. I will be next to the children. I am not willing to see not even one of my children or any child dead or myself. So your advice to me is to accept the partition if I want to see all this children growing up? Is that YOUR METHODOLOGY? Is that a black male? Because sound like that…do what I want you to do or else I will kill your children. Brilliant VP. Well now I can see that I was right. You changed, you changed a lot since I joined.

Lena is that it? You have written post upon post to me about insults,, turning the other cheek and how we should all make the effort to understand each other and get along and all you have to say to Ms Kikapolusis is the above, do you feel thats very balanced or unbiased?

And to Kikapu and others . . . why VP and Zan are females? I am sure that other members have met one of them at least. So they can prove if they are male or female. Even if VP is a woman . . . what that has to do with the Cyprus problem? Is any of our lovely members here racist? Does anyone believe that because he is a woman he can not post his view? (VP I am not saying that you are a woman, don’t get me wrong)

You have stop talking about the real issue here and you talk about d* and p* !! What if VP is a woman or a man? That makes him less human? What if Kikapu is TC or GC? That makes him less Cypriot or less human?

Now...next time you will post use your upper head!

At least my comment that you hate so much and got you annoyed was true, children born out of wed lock are called bastards.

Jesus...guys...thanks for the quality...guys I will ask a favor, when you post keep the window which is next to you open. Then may be your brain will get more oxygen and your blood pressure will turn to normal level and finally we might get better quality here.

Kikapu should we clap for that post? Apart from the insults your last comment was like you own Cyprus and you share pieces like it was your birthday cake! Great guys! Just lovely!

By the way do you remember that????

I do not insult anyone unless insulted first its not my nature, prove me wrong if you wish and I will apologise, otherwise you can do the decent thing and apologise to me for putting me in the foul mouthed catagory with miltiades and Ms Kikapolousis....

And I want an answer on that…

VP, did you ever thought that you are asking too many things? You want the eggs and the basket as we say in Cyprus. You want the north part for you, you want EU recognition, you don’t want embargos, you want to leave in peace, you want progress, you want Papadopoulo away, you want unification after the recognition, you want the sky with the stars…let me tell you another saying…dwse sxoini ston xwriati na s’anevei sto krevati. = give to the villager rope to lift up him self in your bed. That means that we say ok to some things and then you try to get more…and more and more. VP, put your self in our position. Really do that and then come back. I am not saying that you didn’t suffer etc, you didn’t lose property etc…but we say that TC should get fair share …according to numbers and according to what you had before etc…and you say no…we want more than that…It is like saying to GC to take less…but for you is fair to get more and the GC less than get a fair share. You say you want to unite after the recognition. Are we serious here? You will have your own government recognised and then you will come back and say no guys I love you so much that I want the same government with you even if it will be a bit unfair to us…since you respect me I am happy…VP…please!!! Do you want to talk serious or mess around? I am better with messing around…just let me know what kind of game you prefer.

By the way…think about my offer…I really mean it!!!

Ok your both grounded...Happy now VP...what the hell I am doing here...I give up...VP and Kikapu...really I am offering you one year free...all the expenses paid by me...one year attendance to my class...i will try and get the younger age...just for you two guys, and even if they wear diapers even better...it will suit better for your age.

And my apologise for the delay! The copy paste takes time!!

[bigOz]

Do you really teach Lena? I am not being sarcastic, I am genuinely interested to know - I always imagined you as a good teacher!

[Viewpoint]

Lena I am not one of your students if you feel we are going over the same ground dont reply to those points, as I really have difficulty comprehending some of your statements and thus your methodology thats why maybe why you feel like you are repeating yourself.

Let me ask you a few questions to,

Why is it that I do not insult you?

Have you ever faced a barrage of verbal abuse from a forum member to the degree and verocity that Ms Kikapolousis can vomit?

What would you do if you tried the diplomatic approach yet the individual opposite you uses this as a sign of weakness and intensifies her insults?

What if you are not allowed to air your own views with a constant counter posting of you are a propagandist?

What if someone slaps you in the face every day, or uses bully tactics, what will you do?

By nature I am a very patient man but everyone has a limit and when pushed and provoked I to am human and can explode just like anyone else. You probably do not realize Ms Kikapolousis tactics and you have spread butter on her bread by challenging me in this way, shw will attack with scarcasm rudeness and belittlement to a point where she will get you to explode then use your one derogatory statement to turn the table and impress posters like you that they are the virgin mary. Well Lena time to open your my dear and see the truth for us she is the devil in disguise who are the worst danger to their own community not because they posess an opposing view but becuase they have nothing but nothing good to say about the other community,not even 1 issue. I who can be very hard at times feel the GCs should get their land back and allowed to return to the north.

Do you think I do not defend my self? Have you ever heard me to insult anybody? Have you see any kind of insult from me towards a member here? VP, I am not perfect, but writing something and not opening our mouth gives us the opportunity to read what we type and correct it.
In my methodology, is not included any insult approach, that is for sure. I didn’t say to you do not reply to him…I said do not insult. I didn’t say that Kikapu is the perfect member here that does not insult anybody and you are the worst that you insult everybody else. But as I told you, when I join I used to read what you wrote with interest, even if I didn’t agree with you. VP, we have different views in some issues but at least I thought we were the same on the matter that we reply to the challenge and we give pour arguments with a proper way. Sorry if I was wrong on my judgment about you. By taking actions, doesn’t mean that you insult people. So if you will have to take actions in Cyprus that things are a lot more difficult you will start killing people to solve them? Is that YOUR METHODOLOGY?

Respect is a 2 way street, and insults only appear when one side pushes those bounderies in this case Ms Kikapolousis does with many forum members and gets the same back I do not see you telling any of them to be a saint. If your methodology tells you to teach your children that if the school bully hits you every day, turn the other cheek in front of your friends, if he kicks you in the stomach shake his hand and even when you have a brain hemeroage from the increased beatings from the confident school bully to say thank you, please allow me to also adopt a methodology where he will learn to protect himself from the school bully and not suufer a brain damage. I use extreme examples in the hope that you will understand where I am coming from. My parents taught me to go tell the teacher about the school bully and if they do nothing and the bullying continues to choose your moment and then hit that sucker where it hurts the most, giving him the message not to mess with you ever again.

I am against any form of killing but what do you do if you have 10 men about to kill your family and you have nowhere to run or hide? Or you live with the fear of death and annialation with no hope of resolve, do you hand out roses or do you fight back for your very exsistence?

RoC is not my country…my country is Cyprus and I do not know any country named “TRNC” even online maps do not recognised that…why is that? Where are you from VP? Where do you live? Is it one of those dream countries? Is it in this planet or elsewhere?
So I will have to withdraw my question? You are willing to kill people for the solution of the Cyprus problem, and if not you as you said fanatics from your side…is that what you said? Did I understand that correct? VP I am a teacher and I probably I will be in one of those schools you are saying. I will be next to the children. I am not willing to see not even one of my children or any child dead or myself. So your advice to me is to accept the partition if I want to see all this children growing up? Is that YOUR METHODOLOGY? Is that a black male? Because sound like that…do what I want you to do or else I will kill your children. Brilliant VP. Well now I can see that I was right. You changed, you changed a lot since I joined.

You are right I have changed since joining this forum, I have hardened my views and confirmed that division is the only way forward. Lena I live eat drink and breath the TRNC every day, which you may not recognize but its a reality you to have to face burying your head in the sand will not make it go away. You can touch and see it, with its people, flag, roads, schools, police, hospitals, airport, restaurants etc etc....and no one can do anything to change this unless we agree. Being unrecognized does bring its problems but really it is a small price to pay for self determination. No one can deny the last 33 years have been the most prosperous for both sides of Cyprus and hopefully this will continue for all.

The extremist example of bombing a school is very important you should re sit this exam as I think you did not pass. You have to understand the risks both sides would be outting their communites at if we were to unite. The scares are very deep and extremists flourish when they have the opportunity to fight back do we want to allow them this opportunity when we have 33 years of peaceful exsistence?

By the way…think about my offer…I really mean it!!!

VP…please!!! Do you want to talk serious or mess around? I am better with messing around…just let me know what kind of game you prefer.

Is this your offer? Sorry but Im having problems understanding what you are trying to say.

Lena what you have to understand is that you cannot force a marriage it will only end up in divorce and heartbreak yet again. People like you have very good intentions but unfortunately are unable ot see the dangers you can so easily plunge both communities. We have been unable to agree anything in 44 years isnt this enough to time to prove this marriage will be forced neither side wants it, why not be logical and use what we have today to creat 2 states where Cypriots from both sides can settle where ever they wish. Lets use the last 33 years of peaceful exsisitence and not the 11 years of turmoil to build a better Cyprus for everyone.