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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby zan » Wed May 23, 2007 10:48 pm

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Postby Piratis » Wed May 23, 2007 11:09 pm

Now you try and tell me how Piratis is different from the above description...That fit's Piratis more than it does zan OR VP.

He doesn't give a shit about Turkish Cypriots anyways! He has lied in order to squirm his way out of telling the truth on MANY occasions. Maybe the reason you don't think he's a propagandist is because he's fighting the same cause as you but Piratis is here to PUSH the GC side of the story and not to resolve anything. He's here to make the TCs look as bad as possible and GCs as the victims. I'm suprised so many people are playing stupid in this forum...

What you don't realise is that just how VP and zan piss you off there are a lot of GCs who are doing the same to the TCs in exactly the same way!

When Piratis talks about Turkish people raping women and all that, you guy's keep quiet but soon as VP and zan open their mouths to talk about the GC crimes you're all quick to jump up cry about "propaganda"...it's a TRAVESTY Miltiades and I'm not just going to keep quiet when people are too narrow minded to see what's going on.


Really?

So can you point to me the posts of Zan, Murataga etc that accept the crimes of the Turkish side?

I have repeatedly not only accepted the crimes of our side, but I have also repeatedly condemned them as well. This is not what propagandists do.

The one and only reason I talk about the past and the crimes of Turks against us is when some of the partition propagandists of this forum are trying to use their distorted version of tiny selective parts of our past in order to excuse yet more crimes against us today.

Your partition propagandists insist on using the past for two reasons:

1) To try to excuse crimes against us today and in the future
2) To create animosity and hate between the two sides, since hate is what serves their partition aim.

On the other hand what I want is reconciliation of the two sides, and I am not asking for even a single of the human or other rights of TCs to be sacrificed as a punishment for what they did to us in the past. If your propagandists stop trying to distort the past to serve their criminal aims, then I will have absolutely no reason to talk about it.

You can hate me for not allowing the Turkish propaganda to pass, but such accusations against me fall in the gap simply because they are baseless.

I am not yet sure if you belong in the same group as VP, Zan and Murataga. However your support to them is unfortunate. The moderate GCs of this forum have never shown any support to members like EPSILON etc, and this is why the GC extremists have never managed to root in this forum. On the contrary, it seems that from the TC side the extremists have taken over, and the few TC moderates that remain are attacked by those extremists in an attempt to completely silence them.
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Postby zan » Wed May 23, 2007 11:22 pm

Piratis wrote:
Now you try and tell me how Piratis is different from the above description...That fit's Piratis more than it does zan OR VP.

He doesn't give a shit about Turkish Cypriots anyways! He has lied in order to squirm his way out of telling the truth on MANY occasions. Maybe the reason you don't think he's a propagandist is because he's fighting the same cause as you but Piratis is here to PUSH the GC side of the story and not to resolve anything. He's here to make the TCs look as bad as possible and GCs as the victims. I'm suprised so many people are playing stupid in this forum...

What you don't realise is that just how VP and zan piss you off there are a lot of GCs who are doing the same to the TCs in exactly the same way!

When Piratis talks about Turkish people raping women and all that, you guy's keep quiet but soon as VP and zan open their mouths to talk about the GC crimes you're all quick to jump up cry about "propaganda"...it's a TRAVESTY Miltiades and I'm not just going to keep quiet when people are too narrow minded to see what's going on.


Really?

So can you point to me the posts of Zan, Murataga etc that accept the crimes of the Turkish side?

I have repeatedly not only accepted the crimes of our side, but I have also repeatedly condemned them as well. This is not what propagandists do.

The one and only reason I talk about the past and the crimes of Turks against us is when some of the partition propagandists of this forum are trying to use their distorted version of tiny selective parts of our past in order to excuse yet more crimes against us today.

Your partition propagandists insist on using the past for two reasons:

1) To try to excuse crimes against us today and in the future
2) To create animosity and hate between the two sides, since hate is what serves their partition aim.

On the other hand what I want is reconciliation of the two sides, and I am not asking for even a single of the human or other rights of TCs to be sacrificed as a punishment for what they did to us in the past. If your propagandists stop trying to distort the past to serve their criminal aims, then I will have absolutely no reason to talk about it.

You can hate me for not allowing the Turkish propaganda to pass, but such accusations against me fall in the gap simply because they are baseless.

I am not yet sure if you belong in the same group as VP, Zan and Murataga. However your support to them is unfortunate. The moderate GCs of this forum have never shown any support to members like EPSILON etc, and this is why the GC extremists have never managed to root in this forum. On the contrary, it seems that from the TC side the extremists have taken over, and the few TC moderates that remain are attacked by those extremists in an attempt to completely silence them.



What a crock of shit. If you are not the biggest extemist of them all, I don't know who is. There has nver been a single post of yours that accepts your part in this without beng closely followed by "but the atrosities carried out by the you is ten times worse". What sort of confession is that. You try to justify what you did by blaming us in retrospect. Another nice try by you to try and justify your mistakes. The other favourite from you is "when we have a change in power then we will take back Cyprus". Not extremist and warmongering....I don't think so!!!!
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Postby Piratis » Wed May 23, 2007 11:33 pm

Zan, I see that you are again trying to spread hate by calling me names. Everybody can see what you are, so I don't need to reply to that.

here has nver been a single post of yours that accepts your part in this without beng closely followed by "but the atrosities carried out by the you is ten times worse". What sort of confession is that. You try to justify what you did by blaming us in retrospect.

Unlike you, I never tried to justify crimes. I simply say the whole truth, and the whole truth includes crimes committed by both sides. On the other hand you talk only about one side of events. The difference between us is obvious, but apparently the only way you would be satisfied from me is if I do what you do and talk only about the share of blame of GCs and not a word about what your side did. Right?

The other favourite from you is "when we have a change in power then we will take back Cyprus". Not extremist and warmongering....I don't think so!!!!

The war mongers are those that insist to continue that war that started in 1974 with the illegal occupation of Cyprus by Turkey. What I support is legality, and yes Cyprus obviously reserves all rights to defend her sovereignty from the foreign invadors.

The extremists in this case are those that invade and illegally occupy an independent country, and not the citizens of the invaded country that have the right to fight to protect their country.
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Postby zan » Wed May 23, 2007 11:39 pm

Lets take the first aprt first...Where do I call you a name in my post. Wanna show me.....
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Postby Get Real! » Wed May 23, 2007 11:43 pm

zan wrote:Lets take the first aprt first...Where do I call you a name in my post. Wanna show me.....


You called him a pirate many times Zan! :)
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Postby zan » Wed May 23, 2007 11:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:Lets take the first aprt first...Where do I call you a name in my post. Wanna show me.....


You called him a pirate many times Zan! :)


If we are going to take typos into this then look at what I did to the word Part above..... :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 24, 2007 12:06 am

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:Lets take the first aprt first...Where do I call you a name in my post. Wanna show me.....


You called him a pirate many times Zan! :)


If we are going to take typos into this then look at what I did to the word Part above..... :lol:


I wasn't referring to typos! Piratis is Greek for Pirate... :lol:
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Postby zan » Thu May 24, 2007 12:11 am

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:Lets take the first aprt first...Where do I call you a name in my post. Wanna show me.....


You called him a pirate many times Zan! :)


If we are going to take typos into this then look at what I did to the word Part above..... :lol:


I wasn't referring to typos! Piratis is Greek for Pirate... :lol:



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