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[T_C]

It always amuses me when people bleat on about being a poor victimised minority

Show me where any TCs claim they are a minority? Show me where in any part of the original constitution of the RoC that refers to/classifies/handles the TCs as a minority? Greece is approximately 5% of the EU`s population, are they a minority in the EU?

Obviously Murataga, mathematics is not your greatest strength. The Turkish Cypriots may not claim to be a minority but the fact that they are 18% of the population says that, like it or not, they are indeed a minority. If you are not a minority why haven't you taken more of the island? Why can't you stand on your own two feet like your "equal" neighbours in the ROC without being propped up by Turkey?

Incidently Greece is a minority in the EU but nobody forced that country to join or else, she did it of her own free will. Greece does not have equal representation in all the administrative components of the EU as the larger States.

And common sense obviously isn't exactly your greatest strength either is it....

[kafenes]

BigOz wrote:

The only thing out of balance here is your blind thoughts kafenes!

I am fully entitled to my thoughts, blind or not, that is your opinion.

First of all you talk about probabilities when they are not true.

The meaning of 'probability':
1-The quality or fact of being probable.
2-A strong likelihood or chance of something.

What has that to do with true or not true. If I told you that in the next five years you will probably fall down and hurt yourself, would you say that is not true?

I hjave no data but I am sure compensation was one of the alternatives - I'll find out for you (yet ) seeing you are so Google illetrate!

Well I did Google and came across nothing about Turkey ever returning land or any compensation.

The South has been enjoying all the international financial rewards by holding the government for the past 44 years!

You are most welcome to live in the south and enjoy the financial rewards as well.

They have been and are making things difficult for the TCs for 44 years.

Does anyone blame them???? TCs are more then welcome to come and live in the south.

Screw the 200,000 refugees - relatives of all the dead women, children buried in mass graves will agree with me that they rather starve than live under Greek rule.

'rather starve then live under Greek rule.' But when it comes to free medical care they are the first to jump at it.

TCs do not trust GCs and will never ever wish to live in an area dominated by a Greek majority - not at the moment anyway.

'will never ever' and 'not at the moment anyway'??? either one or the other. Make up your minds.

Which part of that do you find hard to understand?

All of it.

The economy of TRNC is no financial burden on Turkey's wealth. They have been supporting it for the past 44 years, in return the least they are entitled to is keep a strong army in TRNC.

If you say so and I am sure you are right, I don't have to Google this one for sure, even though this is also irrelevant to the threads subject.

If you can see the corellation there, you might even understand why it is important for the TC North to catch up with South, and not depend on Turkey economically. So, any economic sanction favoured by the illitrate in the South will only increase North's dependance on Turkey, and a continual (favoured) presence of Turkish army.

Oh no, we won't fall into this trap.

You did not get anywhere in 44 years with economic sanctions, and the whole world is starting to see the other side of the coin. Carry on with your magic ideas and see how far it will get you...

We have got pretty far thank you very much, to the point that half the world envies us. That is my opinion. My grandparents were double refugees, they lost all every time and I am selfishly grateful to the Turks otherwise I wouldn't be enjoying the lifestyle I am now.

And by the way, since the word illiterate is vastly used in your vocabulary, you might learn how to spell it correctly, any illiterate knows that.

[Get Real!]

The EU and UN will never recognize your pseudo state. The USA has never helped us. You are talking crap as you always do.

Swing in power vs Recognition of the TRNC.....we to are willing to wait just like you.

I plan to be in Cyprus within the next two years VP. We can sit with our feet up in our country and wait together with a nice glass of SA wine and that rubbish produced in the "RoC". The drinks are on me.......We might even be recognised by then and we will have more to celerbrate....

You are very welcome to my home where we can sit on the porch in the cool summer night breeze and enjoy shish kebab and a bottle of wine..your choice, in our country the TRNC.

And if you get a power cut you can always give me or Piratis a call to flick the switch back on for you...

[bigOz]

I undersatand your pain Kafenes, but you must be one of the dumbest person I've met on this forum. Do not worry about typo errors, I help English colleagues with their spelling at this end. It's showing you hurt!

Let me educate you a little more since you chose tpo become ignorant of the facts when it suits you:

If you told someone something is probable, it is not true that it will definitely happen - it just means there is a likelyhood that it may happen and nothing more! BTW I have not fallen down and hurt myself for almost 35 years now

You say you Googled and came accross nothing with regards to information about compensation here is a clue for you - try and google this one:

UK PARLIAMENT: a briefing note published by a group of 131 Members of both Houses of Parliament and of all political parties (Chairman : Keith Speed, RD MP Conservative; Vice-Chairmen : Lord Willis, Labour, Andrew Faulds MP Labour; Treasurer : Peter Fry MP Conservative; Secretaries : Stephan Day MP Conservative, John D. Taylor MP UUP). London May 1992.

Greek Cypriots say it is an injustice that Turkish Cypriots occupy 36.2% of the land area of the island although they are only about 20% of the population. However, there are four answers to this:

First, there is no country in which each ethnic group occupies such proportion of the land area as their numbers bear to the total population. The Greek Cypriots did not regard the equitable distribution of territory as important between 1963 and 1974, when they forced the entire Turkish Cypriot population, most of whom were dependent on agriculture, to live in enclaves amounting in total to less than 3% of the land.

In Cyprus, Turks and Turkish Cypriots owned most of the land under Ottoman rule, but Greek Cypriots were allowed to purchase land as free citizens, and by the time of independence in 1960 Turkish Cypriot holdings had reduced to about 30% of the land. Throughout the 1950's and 1960's Greek Cypriots were encouraged to buy land from Turkish Cypriots, but Greek Cypriots who contracted to sell land to Turkish Cypriots were treated as traitors by EOKA and dealt with accordingly.

Second, the area in which the Turkish Cypriots live is close to the minimum necessary to establish a defensible position and to ensure reasonable economic viability. The Turkish Cypriots did not wish to live in a divided island, and are well aware of the benefits of a larger economy, but trust and confidence having been destroyed, it is impossible to go back to the status quo ante.

Third, the Turkish Cypriots have, by accepting the UN draft framework agreement, agreed to negotiate territorial adjustments.

Fourth, [b]the Turkish Cypriots have accepted that as part of an overall settlement there will be an exchange and valuation process, and compensation will be made in property and/or money to those on both sides who have lost their property.[b]

As for medical or other care you think you give free out of kindness you'll find they are well catred for by EU aid and handouts that cover TCs as well!

If you believe allowing TCs catch up economically with the rest of the Cyprus is "falling into a trap", you are a bigger fool that I thought! I just hope everyone else feels the same as you do - with the Greeks refusing to allow it, it is only a matter of time before full trade with many countries using TRNC airports and sea-ports start. All we need is 5-6 trading partners and everyone will be living a life of luxury. Just in case you have not noticed, current oil rich, Turkic speaking nations number more than that alone.

We are not complaining either...And who are the nations that envy you? If Eurovision is something to go by - not many I would think!

[Get Real!]

I undersatand your pain Kafenes, but you must be one of the dumbest person I've met on this forum. Do not worry about typo errors, I help English colleagues with their spelling at this end. It's showing you hurt!

Let me educate you a little more since you chose tpo become ignorant of the facts when it suits you:

If you told someone something is probable, it is not true that it will definitely happen - it just means there is a likelyhood that it may happen and nothing more! BTW I have not fallen down and hurt myself for almost 35 years now

You say you Googled and came accross nothing with regards to information about compensation here is a clue for you - try and google this one:

What was that you were saying about helping colleagues with their spelling?

[EPSILON]

As for medical or other care you think you give free out of kindness you'll find they are well catred for by EU aid and handouts that cover TCs as well!

BECAUSE TCs worked hard all these years and supported Cyprus economy to be ready fo EC, paying hard taxes, making new regulations, suffering for the trial in order Cyprus became a member now EU is offering them free medical etc etc.

Can you first pay for your electricity and then to ask EU or GCs money?

[T_C]

As for medical or other care you think you give free out of kindness you'll find they are well catred for by EU aid and handouts that cover TCs as well!

BECAUSE TCs worked hard all these years and supported Cyprus economy to be ready fo EC, paying hard taxes, making new regulations, suffering for the trial in order Cyprus became a member now EU is offering them free medical etc etc.

Can you first pay for your electricity and then to ask EU or GCs money?

Can you first lift the embargoes etc so we can do just that?

That would be great. Thanks

[zan]

The EU and UN will never recognize your pseudo state. The USA has never helped us. You are talking crap as you always do.

Swing in power vs Recognition of the TRNC.....we to are willing to wait just like you.

I plan to be in Cyprus within the next two years VP. We can sit with our feet up in our country and wait together with a nice glass of SA wine and that rubbish produced in the "RoC". The drinks are on me.......We might even be recognised by then and we will have more to celerbrate....

You are very welcome to my home where we can sit on the porch in the cool summer night breeze and enjoy shish kebab and a bottle of wine..your choice, in our country the TRNC.

And if you get a power cut you can always give me or Piratis a call to flick the switch back on for you...

Aw! Did that bit of human kindness stick in your throat GR. You forget I am an electrician,and when I am riled there is enough power coming out of me to light up the whole of America, let alone a 20w lightbulb like Cyprus.

[Get Real!]

The EU and UN will never recognize your pseudo state. The USA has never helped us. You are talking crap as you always do.

Swing in power vs Recognition of the TRNC.....we to are willing to wait just like you.

I plan to be in Cyprus within the next two years VP. We can sit with our feet up in our country and wait together with a nice glass of SA wine and that rubbish produced in the "RoC". The drinks are on me.......We might even be recognised by then and we will have more to celerbrate....

You are very welcome to my home where we can sit on the porch in the cool summer night breeze and enjoy shish kebab and a bottle of wine..your choice, in our country the TRNC.

And if you get a power cut you can always give me or Piratis a call to flick the switch back on for you...

Aw! Did that bit of human kindness stick in your throat GR. You forget I am an electrician,and when I am riled there is enough power coming out of me to light up the whole of America, let alone a 20w lightbulb like Cyprus.

They don't call you "Static Zan" for nothing baby...

[zan]

The EU and UN will never recognize your pseudo state. The USA has never helped us. You are talking crap as you always do.

Swing in power vs Recognition of the TRNC.....we to are willing to wait just like you.

I plan to be in Cyprus within the next two years VP. We can sit with our feet up in our country and wait together with a nice glass of SA wine and that rubbish produced in the "RoC". The drinks are on me.......We might even be recognised by then and we will have more to celerbrate....

You are very welcome to my home where we can sit on the porch in the cool summer night breeze and enjoy shish kebab and a bottle of wine..your choice, in our country the TRNC.

And if you get a power cut you can always give me or Piratis a call to flick the switch back on for you...

Aw! Did that bit of human kindness stick in your throat GR. You forget I am an electrician,and when I am riled there is enough power coming out of me to light up the whole of America, let alone a 20w lightbulb like Cyprus.

They don't call you "Static Zan" for nothing baby...

You should have seen me in the 70s with my Afro.......Not a balloon was left on the ceiling!!!!