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[Piratis]

1. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.



I suppose GCs and Greece were respecting the independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus when they was trying to annex the country to Greece...

That is just stupid, how was Turkey supposed to respect the independence of Cyprus? By giving it back to the people were trying to undermine it in the first place??? Please....

Greeks and GCs followed the resolution. Democracy was restored and the coup ended. Turks on the other hand continue with illegalities and crimes for 33 years.

[T_C]

Yeah I suppose they would of followed it the same way they "followed" the RoC constitution....

[Piratis]

If the question was if Turkey had any right for the invasion, that question is answered. Beyond that you can give your usual excuses, but it will not change the fact: Turkey had no right to invade and occupy Cyprus, even for a day - period

[zan]

1. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.



I suppose GCs and Greece were respecting the independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus when they was trying to annex the country to Greece...

That is just stupid, how was Turkey supposed to respect the independence of Cyprus? By giving it back to the people were trying to undermine it in the first place??? Please....

Greeks and GCs followed the resolution. Democracy was restored and the coup ended. Turks on the other hand continue with illegalities and crimes for 33 years.

What date did the coup end??????

[zan]

If the question was if Turkey had any right for the invasion, that question is answered. Beyond that you can give your usual excuses, but it will not change the fact: Turkey had no right to invade and occupy Cyprus, even for a day - period

Even with the invasion by Greece??????????????

[Piratis]

Even with the invasion by Greece??????????????

Read the UN resolution. It was issued on 20th of July, the day of the invasion.

Sure, the coup was illegal as well. The coup ended immediately, just like the invasion should have ended immediately.

Turkey simply used the coup as an excuse to put into action her plans of partitioning Cyprus and she had absolutely no right to do that.

[Kikapu]

You keep fighting the good fight for your Greek brothers Kikapyros but where are they when you need them. Are you and therefore they saying that the initial intervention was an intervention or not. Lets get that part out of the way first.

Listen knucklehead. I speak as a Cypriot and I speak it the way I see it, and I speak only for myself, and do not belong to any organisation, such as your Racist and Fascist ATCA. Intervention lasted 1 week, Invasion and Occupation lasted 33 years, minus one week.!!!

Which part of my post do you find biased or not true, or do you want to show your Racist colours once again.

If you were a True Cypriot, you will also see it the same way.

So you for one are saying that the initial action was an intervention. Is that right.




Still waiting for all those that wanted a trial to come in and say their piece..................

Do you have an understanding problem or what.??

Unlike you and all the other Partitionist and Propagandist, I speak only for myself, and not read "Talking Points" from the "TRNC". As an Independent, if the TC's or the GC's do not like what I say, then so be it.

I have when you will not give a straight answer. I know you used it in a sentence but do you agree that the initial action was an intervention.



The thing is Kikapyros that there are no GCs answering this thread because they know what is coming next. You seem to have no clue. Have you had no PMs yet??????????? No! Is it because they like to see the TCs (so you say) fighting amoungst themselves and they stay in the shadows until it is safe to come out....

Zan, you cannot parse my sentences to fit the way you want it.

If you accept the initial as an Intervention, then you will have to accept the last 33 years as Invasion and Occupation, otherwise you look like an asshole...a really big one at that, so therefore play by the rules.

[zan]

Even with the invasion by Greece??????????????

Read the UN resolution. It was issued on 20th of July, the day of the invasion.

Sure, the coup was illegal as well. The coup ended immediately, just like the invasion should have ended immediately.

Turkey simply used the coup as an excuse to put into action her plans of partitioning Cyprus and she had absolutely no right to do that.

Violence Continues
After the Turkish landings it was argued by the Greek-Cypriots that even if the first landing was legal the extension of the area under Turkish control from 22nd July to 16th August 1974 was illegal since there was no longer and subsisting breach of the Treaty. However, the facts do not support this view, because large scale murders of Turkish-Cypriot families continued to take place, particularly in the villages of Aloa (Times, Guardian, 21st August), Zyyi, Sandallaris, Mari, Maratha, and Tokhni, and again despite the presence in Cyprus of UN troops. In Tokhni on 14th August 1974 all the Turkish-Cypriot men between the ages of 13 and 74, except for eighteen who managed to escape, were taken away and shot.

In Zyyi on the same day all the Turkish-Cypriot men aged between 19 and 28 were taken away by Greek-Cypriots and were never seen again. On the same day Greek-Cypriots opened fire in the Turkish-Cypriot neighbourhood of Paphos killing men, women and children indiscriminately. On 23rd July 1974 the Washington Post reported "In a Greek raid on a small Turkish village near Limassol 36 people out of a population of 200 were killed. The Greeks said that they had been given orders to kill the inhabitants of the Turkish villages before the Turkish forces arrived." (See also Times, Guardian, 23rd July).

On 24th July 1974 France Soir reported "The Greeks burned down Turkish mosques and set fire to Turkish homes in the villages around Famagusta. Defenseless Turkish villagers who have no weapons live in an atmosphere of terror and they evacuate their homes and go and live in tents in the forests. The Greeks' actions are a shame to humanity." On 28th July the New York Times reported that 14 Turkish-Cypriot men had been shot in Alaminos.

The "Republic had once again failed to maintain respect for the constitution.

[growuptcs]

zan, if you had a life, you wouldn't be here 24/7 talking about Cyprus' past. You and Pirates can do this till the day you both die, and nothing will change because of Turkey's negative will. Theres no I in team, but you swear you can squeeze it in.

[EPSILON]

Some of you have agreed that the Turkish intervention was legal but the continued "occupation" is not. Can we have a date on when Turkey should have given the island back to the legal government of Cyprus?


23 July 1974