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[Viewpoint]

This is really disapointing, I hope that we (members of this forum) are not the representation of of Cypriots. This is shameful behaviour that there is so much hate and discrimination being thrown around by members of both communities. I am feeling sick in the stomach that after a referendum to bring our people together this sort of behaviour is rife.

People from both sides have suffered and are still suffering and all we can argue about is the past that we cannot change.

Think about it carefully because none of us are actually doing any thing positive to bring people together or to better people's current situations and at this rate we'll all be dead before people see a betterment to their situation. Perhaps when we are all dead Cyprus might then unite. I was 6 years in 74 I am now 39 and with this behaviour I doubt that I will see a free and united Cyprus.

I hope and pray that the new generation post 74 will be more enlightened than the ones up to 74 and do something positive for the Island.

A dreamer no more, welcome to the real world...we arrived many years ago realising that neither side has a desire vision or need to compromise enough to encourage unity as the same mentality prevails as it was in 1963. Many generations after us will also argue in the same fashion and Cyprus will remain divided for a long time to come if not forever. The sooner we accept this fact we can agree to go our seperate ways and get beyond the Cyprus problem and live without these issues being predominant in our lives, leaving us to concentrate on building a better future for our children.

[pitsilos]

i love it, a very rosie picture.

where do i sign?

errrr....whats the plan again?

[humanist]

VP please do not get me wrong I said perhaps we live things as they are, that is differnnt to agreeing on a division. Sorry I said it before and I will say it again I will never in my life time agree for my grandmothers property to be taken. And I certainly do not support the trnc...... hypocritical may be but that is how I feel.

[Viewpoint]

VP please do not get me wrong I said perhaps we live things as they are, that is differnnt to agreeing on a division. Sorry I said it before and I will say it again I will never in my life time agree for my grandmothers property to be taken. And I certainly do not support the trnc...... hypocritical may be but that is how I feel.

Humanist I agree that your grandmothers house should be returned but why cant you accept having to live in the TRNC? after all this is what you suggest we have to do when we want our property back. Isnt this being a hypocrite?

[humanist]

because the trnc is an illegal entity. It may be hypocritical it may be not. VP for me its not about the house or the land but about choice and freedom. In a unified Cyprus I would be more than happy for me to accept living in that state of Cyprus whatever it will be called. However remember VP that if all refugees return the number would continue to be the majority of that state, especially if turkish speaking cypriots decide that they are happy to reclaim their property in the south for example Paphos and Paphian? villages

Furthermore, VP I couldn't care less whether the government of the state was made up of greek/ turkish speakers so long as I agree with their social and political ideology I really couldn't careless wheteher they are katazoglu or smith or Pipilopoulos, if they were fair just and humanitarian.

[Kikapu]

Many generations after us will also argue in the same fashion and Cyprus will remain divided for a long time to come if not forever. .

When my cousin's husband says the same thing, just like other Partitionist who have gotten "Haram Land", then he is a "imaginary husband".

When Miss VP says it, it is a fact.

Thanks for sorting that one out for us Miss VP.

[Viewpoint]

because the trnc is an illegal entity. It may be hypocritical it may be not. VP for me its not about the house or the land but about choice and freedom. In a unified Cyprus I would be more than happy for me to accept living in that state of Cyprus whatever it will be called. However remember VP that if all refugees return the number would continue to be the majority of that state, especially if turkish speaking cypriots decide that they are happy to reclaim their property in the south for example Paphos and Paphian? villages

Furthermore, VP I couldn't care less whether the government of the state was made up of greek/ turkish speakers so long as I agree with their social and political ideology I really couldn't careless wheteher they are katazoglu or smith or Pipilopoulos, if they were fair just and humanitarian.

Cant you see what you are forcing me to do? live in a GC state which I do not want to do. I do not want to go an offical office in my own country and be dealt with by GCs this would make me feel like a foreigner, I want to be dealt with by TCs like now, why is it so difficult to understand when the shoe is on the other foot? I do not want to deny you this right why do you want to deny me? Seeing that I also have rights on this island the only fair way is to share not mixed together but in 2 seperate areas, allowing the people the choice where they want to live the TRNC or the "RoC". Not many TCs will move south and no more than 20% of GC refugees will return therefore allowing the TCs to be the majority population in the north.

[Viewpoint]

Many generations after us will also argue in the same fashion and Cyprus will remain divided for a long time to come if not forever. .

When my cousin's husband says the same thing, just like other Partitionist who have gotten "Haram Land", then he is a "imaginary husband".

When Miss VP says it, it is a fact.

Thanks for sorting that one out for us Miss VP.

Ms Kikapolousis could we hear your arguements concerning the Haram land grabbed/taken/stolen by GCs back in 1963 and before then from TCs and why these issues have still not been resolved in the ho so democratic GC south?

[axilleask]

You know what the problem is? We have no problem doing that. The area that the TC's can live happily will be no more than 10% of the island. Considering that more than 200,000 people living in the Nicosia area I think that is more than enough space to live under your own conditions. But Hey! if a thief has looted plundered and exploited a bigger area for more than 33 years why not continue doing it indefinetely??
Let's be realistic! you don't want any solution. and you have voted yes in the annan plan only because noone guaranteed it's implementation.


the people who really wanted a solytion have flled from the occupied territories and living abroad.
the so called 'TRNC' is nothing more than a hideout for outlaws, pimps and gamblers who employ Turks do do their dirty work.
TC's are already a minority in this territory. Soon there will be no one left.

There is no solution because you dont want any solution.
And even if you wanted you cant because your captors dont allow that

because the trnc is an illegal entity. It may be hypocritical it may be not. VP for me its not about the house or the land but about choice and freedom. In a unified Cyprus I would be more than happy for me to accept living in that state of Cyprus whatever it will be called. However remember VP that if all refugees return the number would continue to be the majority of that state, especially if turkish speaking cypriots decide that they are happy to reclaim their property in the south for example Paphos and Paphian? villages

Furthermore, VP I couldn't care less whether the government of the state was made up of greek/ turkish speakers so long as I agree with their social and political ideology I really couldn't careless wheteher they are katazoglu or smith or Pipilopoulos, if they were fair just and humanitarian.

Cant you see what you are forcing me to do? live in a GC state which I do not want to do. I do not want to go an offical office in my own country and be dealt with by GCs this would make me feel like a foreigner, I want to be dealt with by TCs like now, why is it so difficult to understand when the shoe is on the other foot? I do not want to deny you this right why do you want to deny me? Seeing that I also have rights on this island the only fair way is to share not mixed together but in 2 seperate areas, allowing the people the choice where they want to live the TRNC or the "RoC". Not many TCs will move south and no more than 20% of GC refugees will return therefore allowing the TCs to be the majority population in the north.

[Kikapu]

Many generations after us will also argue in the same fashion and Cyprus will remain divided for a long time to come if not forever. .

When my cousin's husband says the same thing, just like other Partitionist who have gotten "Haram Land", then he is a "imaginary husband".

When Miss VP says it, it is a fact.

Thanks for sorting that one out for us Miss VP.

Ms Kikapolousis could we hear your arguements concerning the Haram land grabbed/taken/stolen by GCs back in 1963 and before then from TCs and why these issues have still not been resolved in the ho so democratic GC south?

Lets ask our good friend Bananiot to tell us why this has not happened. I'm not qualified to answer your question Miss VP.

Once again, thanks for confirming, that we are in fact committing "Haram Land" gains.