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Nothing to stop refugees selling property in north to foreigners
By Nassos Stylianou

DISY DEPUTY Giorgos Georgiou yesterday continued the debate over illegal property transactions by saying there was nothing in the law that deterred Cypriots from selling their property companies in the north to foreigners.
According to Georgiou, the reason that he chose to give his list of high-profile names of Greek Cypriots involved in such transactions to the Interior Minister and not the Attorney-general was because there was nothing in the law that stopped this from taking place.

“There is no legislation that stops Cypriot companies that were established before 1974 in the north from selling their shares to anyone in particular from abroad. Nothing,” Georgiou told state radio yesterday.

In a dramatic day regarding the issue of Greek Cypriot property in the north on Thursday, Georgiou told the House of Representatives that he had evidence and names that when publicised, would “give a lot of people heart attacks”.
The DISY deputy said that economic factors were also involved, while he also claimed another plot, where Greek Cypriot land developers were working in association with Turkish Cypriots and foreigners to sell the properties of refugees.
“There are developers working in conjunction with illegal offices in the north and we have had a number of allegations from refugees who claim that they have been approached by these people who told them that they can put them in touch with foreign companies that can sell their properties,” he added.

According to the newly appointed Government Spokesman, Vasilis Palmas, this phenomenon was not new to the government.

“This is not something that has come to light today, it is something that has been happening for some time now. It is up to the people to judge these actions but I have to say that only with the solution to the Cyprus problem will this stop,” he said.
DIKO party leader Marios Karoyian said yesterday that politicians in Cyprus should refrain from making such shock statements at the House if they have not been substantiated.

“Comments on this matter especially should not be made without them being verified. The danger of this is that the wrong messages are given about abroad,” he commented.
Meanwhile the British High Commission yesterday denied it had ever advised a Greek Cypriot refugee to take his claim to the property commission in the north.
According to refugee from Yerolakkos, British officials had told him to appeal to the commission and to act in secrecy when doing so.

Yesterday, the British High Commission released a statement denying that their staff told anyone to appeal to the commission, adding that given the perplexity of the issue, they advised people to seek legal advice.

Attorney-general Petros Clerides said that while a fuss should not be made about the issue just yet, there were questions that remained unanswered.

“This needs to be looked into in order to determine whether these are just the actions of an irresponsible individual, in which case he would have a host of questions to answer to, or whether it is the policy of the British High Commission,” he said. “On the other hand, there is the question on why the refugee contacted the British High Commission and not the Cypriot authorities.”



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007

[Get Real!]

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[zan]

I am sorry GR, I did not want to scare you again with realities. This is all you guys seem to have left these days. Anything that is in the news or any other data that goes against your way of thinking is just denied. I tell you what....You guys are no different to anyone else in this world and I know that on the surface you may seem in control but you are really falling apart at the seams. A reality check can be very painful.

[Murataga]

Excellent post zan.

[Piratis]

Excellent post zan.

Copy/paste articles is apparently a great achievement for a Turk. Congratulations from me also Zan

[zan]

Excellent post zan.

Copy/paste articles is apparently a great achievement for a Turk. Congratulations from me also Zan

Thanks Murataga..........................and Piratis


You should try copy and paste sometimes Piratis...It will save you typing the same things over and over again. Those keys around the number pad must be worn out by now.

[zan]

So, a little while back there was the report in which the developers in the North said that they had all the deeds and paperwork relevant to show that they owned he land hey were building on. Does this statement from Giorgos Georgiou confirm that they do indeed have these papers and the so-called refugees no longer fall into hat category?????

[Get Real!]

Excellent post zan.

Copy/paste articles is apparently a great achievement for a Turk. Congratulations from me also Zan

Thanks Murataga..........................and Piratis


You should try copy and paste sometimes Piratis...It will save you typing the same things over and over again. Those keys around the number pad must be worn out by now.

I suspect that Piratis uses macros... Function keys 1..12 are programmed to paste a specific line.. ie: [F1] = "...200,000 ethnically cleansed refuges...."



Go on Piratis you're allowed to have a grin...

[zan]

Excellent post zan.

Copy/paste articles is apparently a great achievement for a Turk. Congratulations from me also Zan

Thanks Murataga..........................and Piratis


You should try copy and paste sometimes Piratis...It will save you typing the same things over and over again. Those keys around the number pad must be worn out by now.

I suspect that Piratis uses macros... Function keys 1..12 are programmed to paste a specific line.. ie: [F1] = "...200,000 ethnically cleansed refuges...."



Go on Piratis you're allowed to have a grin...

Damn I wish I was ore computer literate!!!!

[Jerry]

Talking of copying and pasting - perhaps this is the real reason why there is so much building in the north, too many carpetbagging British mugs willing to be taken for a ride by TC conmen. My heart bleeds for them Ha! ha! ha! ha!

From today's Cyprus Mail:-

Brits call for property action in north
By Jean Christou

WHETHER they’re buying Greek Cypriot properties or not, British home buyers in the north claim they are being cheated left, right and centre and have decided to take drastic action.

From tomorrow, members of the Homebuyers’ Pressure Group (HPG), which has 1,000 members, plan to stage daily 10-hour demonstrations outside the ‘parliament’ in the north in a bid to force action on property related issues.

The group says members’ dreams of a home in the north have become a nightmare due to some lawyers, builders, developers and estate agents taking advantage of lax property legislation.

Some of the problems faced by buyers, many retired, include missing funds amounting to millions of pounds, laws being ignored by lawyers and builders, double and triple selling, properties half built and abandoned, homes built with no electricity and water, properties sold off-plan and never built, and properties paid for in full with nothing built.

The lengthy list also refers to properties being built on ‘government and disputed’ land, and properties built without any title deeds, all of which have resulted in people losing their life’s savings.

The pressure groups says buyers are living in fear because of threats and intimidation by builders, being ignored when they complain, and having to live in third world conditions detrimental to the health of many retirees.

Marian Stokes, the founder of HPG told a recent meeting of members that the people who could improve their lot “either don’t listen, are impotent and are puppet figureheads or just don’t care”.

“After all this effort, new people are joining every week and there is a steady trickle of people leaving the island for good, their dreams shattered. In many instances, I think the problems are getting worse!” Stokes said. “We live in a country where the laws are ignored and broken with impunity and nobody does anything about it”.

Stokes said talking and continually stating that they want to work with the ‘government’ had “borne a poor crop”.

“And I for one am fed up with it. The time has come for direct action and I propose we become more visible and start demonstrating,” she added.

NIGHTMARE TALES

Couple 1 decided in 2005 to buy a home in the north, signing a contract in August that year. In January 2006 work began but by August, a year later, “just a few bricks had been laid”. In October they were informed the company would be closing down. They emailed the developer and received back an abusive response “threatening to have friends of ours arrested if they were seen taking photographs on our site.” Up until this month the couple has still heard nothing.

Couple 2 found a partly built property in 2002 and were asked for 20,000 sterling to finish the job. They handed over 5,000 and were then asked for 2,000 more for two air conditioning units and a fridge freezer he had found for them. The couple later found out he had paid only 700 for them. After work started with no clear completion date suddenly the price went up with another 4,000 for unspecified extras and the couple discovered the builder wasn’t even registered. They found another builder but the first one then sued them and the case went on for four years.

Couple 3, aged 76 and 72, decided on a property in November 2004, paid the deposit and were offered a ten per cent discount if they paid in full early. As pensioners, this was a huge saving for them so they mortgaged their home in Wales and paid 134,950 sterling. In October 2005 all building stopped without explanation and to date the couple have not heard a thing. Now the husband has cancer, is unable to work and pay the mortgage. They have already had their car re-possessed and now stand to lose their UK home.
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