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[denizaksulu]

Good one Aphrodite18

[Aphrodite18]

sounds good to me - can you sell it in today's market??

And thank you for the compliment Mr <?> Denizaksulu!! If I knew you better I might have said "Ta Chuck"...

[denizaksulu]

That'll do nicely

[zan]

sounds good to me - can you sell it in today's market??

And thank you for the compliment Mr <?> Denizaksulu!! If I knew you better I might have said "Ta Chuck"...

If the question was meant for me then all I can say is that I have been trying to sell it all my life.......The fear of god is winning. People are sheep, what can I say.

[Diogenes]

Dear Miltiades,

please allow me to disagree with your statement:

"The 10 commandments are beyond criticism and are respected by millions of people"

The 10 commandments are TOTALLY under critisism...I post them below, and comment on a few.

1. Have no other gods before me [the Jewish god].
2. Make no images of anything in heaven, earth or the sea, and do not worship or labor for them.
3. Do not vainly use the name of your God [the God of the Hebrews].
4. Do no work on the seventh day of the week.
5. Honor your parents.
6. Do not kill.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not give false testimony against another.
10. Do not desire another's wife or anything that belongs to another.

What about 1? Does not allow freedom of religion (and what if you are an atheist?)
What about 5? If you father was raping you as kid, should you honor him?
What about 6? Not to kill to defend your country? What if someone is raping your sister right in front of your eyes, not to kill?
What about 8? What if a child is dying from hunger, not to steal to eat?

A more detailed analysis you will find here:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ ... rier2.html

Now, on the other hand, look at the "10 Commandments" of Solon (Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, 1.60), in ancient Greece:

1. Trust good character more than promises.
2. Do not speak falsely.
3. Do good things.
4. Do not be hasty in making friends, but do not abandon them once made.
5. Learn to obey before you command.
6. When giving advice, do not recommend what is most pleasing, but what is most useful.
7. Make reason your supreme commander.
8. Do not associate with people who do bad things.
9. Honor the gods.
10. Have regard for your parents.

Aren't those more reasonable and contemporary? What do you think?

[Diogenes]

Dear Humanist,

religion is BAD too. I's not just the church. Where did you think learned to be bad?

Take christianity for example, as a religion based in the bible (their sacred book). In the bible itself, RAPE, SLAVERY, and MURDER, are all allowed.

Those who dispute that , are those who never read the Bible. I give you some reference for the crimes i mentioned above:

So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
(Judges 21:10-24)

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.
(Leviticus 25:44-46)

And don't think these are just in the Old Testament...Look what Paul says on slavery, in the New Testament:

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.
(Ephesians 6:5)

Religion is truly the source of the problem...

[Diogenes]

Dear Zan,

I totally AGREE with you. Add to that that "religion is the opium of the people".