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[MR-from-NG]

The link I was referring to was your cyprusembassy one. As for your comments on treaties and non compliance by Muslims, well who gives a shit about Muslims or christians or orthodox. I don't care for religion and have no time for religious people. We are talking GC and TC here.

Furthermore this is all very rich coming from somebody who tore up the constitution within 3 years and went on a killing spree for their desire of ENOSIS. Please mate even if you are blind to your crimes the rest of the world aren't. Your game is up. You've been caught red handed.

What's up buddy don't you like ENOSIS???

How can I GR? Isn't ENOSIS the culprit for all the problems on the island? Maybe I'm wrong and it has nothing to do with ENOSIS and it is purely due to the TCs presence on the island that gets up all you guys noses. Please get used to it we are here to stay.

Whatever the reason may be, one undeniable fact remains and that it is your f***up, you did it and now the onus is on you to undo it. Good luck.

[growuptcs]

mrfromng, you slam the door to our part of the island and homes for 30 years before we can even see anything from our historical past or homes. You open up the borders after 30 years with OUR homes, try to sell them under our noses and you put us in the position that we have to undo this. Your histerical mrfromng. Anything else that you want from us on your list of demands?

[MR-from-NG]

mrfromng, you slam the door to our part of the island and homes for 30 years before we can even see anything from our historical past or homes. You open up the borders after 30 years with OUR homes, try to sell them under our noses and you put us in the position that we have to undo this. Your histerical mrfromng. Anything else that you want from us on your list of demands?

OK, you made your point. Now would you like to tell us how you ended up in the shit you are in? Short, sweet and to the point if possible please.

Thank you.

[growuptcs]

OK mrfromng, trying to gain our independence from the British rule, Turkey found a way to go around our backs so they can TRY to keep part of an island that they had their eyes on for centuries. They found a little excuse to let me see how you see it, SAVE the TC's. Which is completely fabricated(the Turkish way) so they can inhumanly cleanse GC's from the North of Cyprus. Only problem is now they knew they would never get away with it legally so they chose to ignore GC's for over 30 years. Now that they want to be part of the EU, they want in the club and keep North Cyprus. Every step of the way they keep getting blocked because of their illegalities, and blame the GC's till this day because their beliefs were wrong about the whole picture of Cyprus, and their still practising their unethical ways to get into the EU. It's up in the air at this point if Turkey will change their tune, but believe it or not mrfromng I do wish them the best and hopefully they change for the better because I really would like to see a peaceful future in Cyprus.

[Nikephoros]

mrfromng, maybe you can answer what is wrong with muslims, especially Turks? Does any muslim people allow their neighbors any peace? Do you guys even know what words like "peace" really mean?

[growuptcs]

mrfromng, cornering people to make them repeat the past in their own version, only creates rebuttals from your side. Its a reason to talk in circles and thats it. If you pass your hand through fire, you'll learn not to do it again. If you keep getting blocked in every step of the way towards the EU, what does that tell you except that something has to bend and its not the GC's. So you know what, back to bickering I assume.

[Rain]

This is a respond to KIFEAS.
Unfortunately you are still ignorant of what is written in The Akridas Plan, perhaps you need to read more carefuly that it means. And for your kind information I lived all my life here in Cyprus and I have lived the events of 63-64,67 and 74. And yet again I will like to inform you that every sunday when I used to go to church the slogan by the priests was Enosis,and the enemies of Enosis are the Turkish speaking Cypriots.
You as an Orthodox Cypriot under the influence of the church priests and the portraits of the so called martirs of the 1821 revolution that are found in many churches and in your school books, still carry in your brain the (Megalo Ithea) created by (Ethnigi Ederia) Kostaninos din ihe ,Kostantinos tha din bari.
Yassu file mou.

[miltiades]

A nation that focuses on its past is denying its' people the opportunity to go forward , progress and establish a well ordered framework within which all its' citizens enjoy a civilized atmosphere with equality under the law , freedom of speech and free of discrimination based on ethnicity . Incessant referral to the 60s or even the 16th century or 1490 bc only serves to solidify a political view that demands that citizens are constantly at each others throats. I'm not responsible for events that occurred in 1571 or 1490bc, neither is any one responsible for the acts of fanatics 50 years ago. Fanatics that caused the division of our island are responsible , and present day fanatics will be judged by the future generations of Cypriots as the bearers of responsibility for likely conflict in the future. Cyprus will have peace and prosperity for all its people when the procrastinators of blame on one or the other site realize that their position is nonconstructive and damaging to our future generations well being.

[Kifeas]

If the TC propagandists in this forum (and elsewhere) believe that:

1. Turkey’s two-phased land grapping illegal invasion in 1974,
2. The cold-blood murdering of as many as two thousands of GC civilians, that started since day one Turkey’s troops stepped foot in Cyprus,
3. The ethnic cleansing and usurpation of all properties and homes of some 200,000 GC people, and,
4. The ever since illegal occupation of 37% of Cyprus by Turkey,

Can be explained and /or justified by the fact that:

A. There was a coop against Makarios by the Greek Cypriot National Guard under the command of a dozen of mainland Greek officers, during which all in all some less than one hundred GCs from both sides had been killed in clashes between the two sides and no one single TC among the victims, and
B. By the fact that after the starting of Turkey’s illegal, murderous and land grapping invasion that was actively supported and facilitated by the TC community in Cyprus, some 300-400 TCs were murdered by GCs –mainly after the second phase of the invasion which started in the morning hours of the 14th of August 1974,

Then the road to the International Court of Justice in Hague is wide open for them and their “motherland” to go, make and prove their case, as they were invited repeatedly by the RoC!

The truth of the matter remains that their “motherland” Turkey has refused to attend such a tribunal, simply because it knows that it’s “case” stands no chance of making sense, and that they would have lost the verdict!

They know that they would have lost the verdict, in the same way that they lost the verdicts of the ECtHR and in the same way that the UN resolutions have marked and verified the unjustified and illegal of its actions in 1974!

You are now free to say whatever nonsense and lies you want in the forum, and cite as many one-sided, biased and distorted quotes and links you wish in the forums!

[Kifeas]

This is a respond to KIFEAS.
Unfortunately you are still ignorant of what is written in The Akridas Plan, perhaps you need to read more carefuly that it means. And for your kind information I lived all my life here in Cyprus and I have lived the events of 63-64,67 and 74. And yet again I will like to inform you that every sunday when I used to go to church the slogan by the priests was Enosis,and the enemies of Enosis are the Turkish speaking Cypriots.
You as an Orthodox Cypriot under the influence of the church priests and the portraits of the so called martirs of the 1821 revolution that are found in many churches and in your school books, still carry in your brain the (Megalo Ithea) created by (Ethnigi Ederia) Kostaninos din ihe ,Kostantinos tha din bari.
Yassu file mou.

Rain, cut the crap my friend!

I have given you a link of the Akritas plan so that you read it and tell me where you see what you have claimed in your previous post! Instead of doing this, i.e. instead of choosing to have a meaningful discussion on the basis of real facts and evidence, you choose to continue your ranting with empty rhetoric and generalities!

Live the nonsense aside, and do as I have asked you to do, so that you prove what you have claimed earlier!

I have no time to waste with propaganda rubbish talk and empty slogans! I only speak with real, unbiased and undistorted facts and evidence!