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Postby T_C » Thu May 17, 2007 5:05 pm

growuptcs wrote:turkish_cypriot, hows it going today mate? Can you please explain the definition of propoganda, because I think your using a wrong dictionary. Your definition might be different than the rest of the worlds. Hopefully the next step to this evolution of Cyprus should be fining people that talk out of their arse with other peoples property.


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Postby Piratis » Thu May 17, 2007 5:07 pm

So now tell me which of the facts I said are "one-sided". Isn't it a fact that the Turkish army ethnically cleansed the majority of the native population, replaced them with settlers, and then declared the "TRNC" which is illegal and recognize by nobody else except Turkey?
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Postby T_C » Thu May 17, 2007 5:12 pm

PROPAGANDA: A campaign directed at a targeted audience designed to influence opinions, beliefs and emotions to bring specific alterations in behavior. The presentation might be logical and dispassionate or rhetorical to arouse emotions or prejudices, but the message is always deliberately slanted to lead toward a mindset that benefits the cause.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu May 17, 2007 5:29 pm

Piratis wrote:So now tell me which of the facts I said are "one-sided". Isn't it a fact that the Turkish army ethnically cleansed the majority of the native population, replaced them with settlers, and then declared the "TRNC" which is illegal and recognize by nobody else except Turkey?


Having problems swallowing the fact that we are here and will be here for a long time to come as long as you try to busy your head in the sand. The man asked a simple question having not even been to the TRNC means you have no opinion as you have seen oe lived what goes on here others have so they are invited to express their opinion.
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Postby Piratis » Thu May 17, 2007 5:41 pm

And you are having problem to swallow that what you have is nothing more than our land under illegal occupation. You don't have any state or anything else, no matter how much you pretend to. All you have is 40.000 Turkish troops illegally occupying part of Republic of Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu May 17, 2007 6:00 pm

Piratis wrote:And you are having problem to swallow that what you have is nothing more than our land under illegal occupation. You don't have any state or anything else, no matter how much you pretend to. All you have is 40.000 Turkish troops illegally occupying part of Republic of Cyprus.


What you seem to have problems accepting is that this is perferred even with all its imperfections TCs remain in the TRNC, make as many excuses as you wish to support your own incorrect thought line but the bottom line is TCs have chosen the TRNC over the "RoC" run by GCs otherwise we would all be living south of the divide by now. The swing hope you cling onto so dearly does not appear anywhere on the horizon maybe you should be applying pressure on your leaders to be more active in bringing TCs into the frame rather than continuing their current alienation policies, TCs are not stupid if they see that a united Cyprus holds a better future for them they would not hesitate to make a move forward but for now the TRNC is a better opiton to that of the GC "RoC", try swallowing that.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 17, 2007 6:50 pm

In a nutshell:

Turkey has made it convenient for the TC’s to rule a sizable part of Cyprus unhindered. Having tasted independence and dominance within this territory the TC’s have gotten spoilt and are now making ridiculous requests to the RoC if they are to abandon it.

Doesn’t that pretty much encapsulate the “TRNC” debacle VP?

Notice I didn’t even use the word “illegal” so I hope you won’t poke your tongue at me as you often do to Piratis. :)
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Postby zan » Thu May 17, 2007 7:13 pm

How about this one?


Get Real! wrote:In a nutshell:

Turkey has made it convenient for the GC’s to rule a sizable part of Cyprus unhindered by Greece. Having tasted independence and dominance within this territory the GC’s have gotten spoilt and are now making ridiculous requests to the TRNC/KKTC to abandon it.

Doesn’t that pretty much encapsulate the “TRNC” debacle VP?

Notice I didn’t even use the word “illegal” so I hope you won’t poke your tongue at me as you often do to Piratis. :)
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Postby Piratis » Thu May 17, 2007 7:23 pm

VP, I already know that TCs have chosen crime and illegality and to steal our land, you really didn't tell us anything new. Just remember however that choosing illegality and crime was never your right.

You can not ethnically cleanse a region from the majority of its native population, import foreigners in its place, and then declare a separate country. If you can not understand this simple thing then stay there and face the consequences of your crimes until the day that choosing illegality will stop being an option to you.
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Postby zan » Thu May 17, 2007 7:35 pm

Piratis wrote:VP, I already know that TCs have chosen crime and illegality and to steal our land, you really didn't tell us anything new. Just remember however that choosing illegality and crime was never your right.

You can not ethnically cleanse a region from the majority of its native population, import foreigners in its place, and then declare a separate country. If you can not understand this simple thing then stay there and face the consequences of your crimes until the day that choosing illegality will stop being an option to you.


But you keep quoting it as your right in the ENOSIS argument You knew that it was illegal and unethical to murder and persecute us so you invented the EOKA-B as an excuse to carry on with the murders and illegalities. Shame you did not have your halo on then.
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