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[DT.]

zan i asked you specific questions and you refuse to answer but you rather and i am gonna use bans words, you are ranting uncontrollably...

I am gonna ask you for the 3rd time so other forum members can see it as well

and for the 3rd time....the kurds? the generals? the freedoms?.. when you think turkey will evolve from the dark ages?

When Greece and the "RoC" do with their equal problems. Greece, with all the islands like Crete and Macedonia looking for settlement and the "RoC" with its TC problem and its recent history. The one word answer to your pathetic question is, I suppose, SOON I HOPE!

Huh? What settlements are needed for Crete?? And Macedonia is not an island its a region in northern Greece...what settlement does Greece need there?

If you're talking about FYROM, it was settled and both countries agreed to that name.

[humanist]

Piratis said

then it will become obvious that splitting Turkey up in a few ways will help to keep the region under control easier.

Piratis you don't think that's what they have in mind do you ? seriously? Tho it is a possibility.

[pitsilos]

its ok, its zan as per usual raving like a lunatic, on and on and on while avoiding for the 3rd time to answer the question which is...and for the 4th time...the kurds? the generals? the freedoms?.. when you think turkey will evolve from the dark ages?

he justs like to do his usual somersault, landing on his feet backwards facing the world backwards, matching turkeys non evolution to the dark ages

ps...now he is trying to tell us the problems turkey is facing are the same as with every democratic, civilised country where the rule of law applies...totally ludicrous

somebody is losing the plot in a big way

[alexISS]

Huh? What settlements are needed for Crete?? And Macedonia is not an island its a region in northern Greece...what settlement does Greece need there?

If you're talking about FYROM, it was settled and both countries agreed to that name.

Maybe he is giving us a hint on the next territorial claims of Ankara, when their EU entry aspirations will be officially dead.

It's funny though that some people see Turkey's european dead end (that Turkey herself created) as a good thing because Cyprus will run out of "handles" on Turkey.
It's like a boy soaking himself just so that the other boy can't harm him with his watergun.
Edit: Of course the first boy would be the child of a giant and the second the child of a midget, so that the difference in sizes (that Turkey loves to bring up when her relations with Cyprus are concerned) is included in the analogy

[axilleask]

When zan one day will wake up and realise that the country he worships and I am talking about Turkey is in fact the sole responsible for his misery and is in fact a person living in captivity then the so called "Cyprus Problem" will find its solution....
Yes Turkey is a country nodoby likes because
Has invaded and illegally occypies foreign territory
Violates human rights
Has sky high illiteracy rate
has millions of hardcore fundemenalists
has a take all - give nothing policy when it comes to negotiations

And many more reasons I dont have time to write !

If Turkey was there to help find a solution to the problem and played by the world accepted methods of diplomacy and negotiations the a solution would have been reached.
Instead uses all the resourced possible in order to the opposite direction
So I can see no solution in the near future except only when a major political change happens in Turkey and suddently embraces the UN resolutions
People in the occupied territories will continue to live in misery while we prosper...
Do I like this situation? No I don't. But It's not my fault!
And I believe NO solution is better than an UNFAIR solution and that's what the majority of the Cypriots are thinking I believe...

As for Turkey's accesion in the EU ? as long as Cyprus has VETO POWER this thing will NEVER happen until a FAIR solution has been reached!

[pitsilos]

turkey has negated her signature on the dotted line numerous times. starting with the guarantor rights and with her EU protocol...its there for every one to see.

why should the eu trust turkeys signature on the dotted line?

ps...lets not mention she said no to the us, a blessing in disguise

[observer]

alexISS

Yes it's obvious that the "Grey Wolves" (of who there is no Greek equivalent) are understanding but threatened people.

er ...... (Greek:Χρυσή Αυγή English:Golden Dawn)?

[observer]

Pitsilos

turkey has negated her signature on the dotted line numerous times. starting with the guarantor rights and with her EU protocol...its there for every one to see.

why should the eu trust turkeys signature on the dotted line?

ps...lets not mention she said no to the us, a blessing in disguise

Don’t understand this one.

Turkey guaranteed the independence of Cyprus and when there was a coup by a right wing organization who aimed to take Cyprus into Greece, Turkey intervened. Turkey said what it was going to do, then did it. The fact that Cypriots have been unable to agree on anything since can not be laid at Turkey’s door.

So far as I am aware, Turkey has complied with the EU protocols that it signed. Turkey said that it was not going to allow RoC registered ships and planes into Turkey until ships and planes were free to use North Cyprus. Once again, Turkey said what it was going to do, then did it.

Turkey said that it was not going to allow US bases to be used for any military action by the US against Iraq. Once again, Turkey said what it was going to do, then did it.

You may not like what Turkey does, but it’s politicians and generals do tend to keep their word.

[pitsilos]

Turkey guaranteed the independence of Cyprus and when there was a coup by a right wing organization who aimed to take Cyprus into Greece, Turkey intervened. Turkey said what it was going to do, then did it. The fact that Cypriots have been unable to agree on anything since can not be laid at Turkey’s door.

can you pull out the agreement and show me where it says that guarantor rights are the way you envisioned it?

Turkey said that it was not going to allow US bases to be used for any military action by the US against Iraq. Once again, Turkey said what it was going to do, then did it.

and for saying no to the yanks we are gratefully indebted to turkey for taking such bold steps...thank you

You may not like what Turkey does, but it’s politicians and generals do tend to keep their word.

yes we all seen this recently...when hand to paper signatures as per the eu protocol...

again 2 times hand on paper worth nothing but good for wiping asses...

[observer]

can you pull out the agreement and show me where it says that guarantor rights are the way you envisioned it?

Article 185
1. The territory of the Republic is one and indivisible.
2. The integral or partial union of Cyprus with any other State or the separatist independence is excluded.

The Treaty guaranteeing the independence, territorial integrity and Constitution of the Republic concluded between the
Republic, the Kingdom of Greece, the Republic of Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the Treaty of Military Alliance concluded between the Republic, the Kingdom of Greece and the Republic of Turkey

I think an Athens court agreed with my interpretation.

Now show me

when hand to paper signatures as per the eu protocol

where Turkey has not complied, other than where its government has previously said it is not going to comply.

... but I'll have to read it tomorrow as I am logging off.