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Postby zan » Mon May 14, 2007 10:10 am

pitsilos wrote:hey don't you worry you pretty little head about how other members got in...just accept they are in period...we are talking about turkey getting in period. so you raving on and on about the other countries is of no consequence.

just answer the questions...which are...the kurds? the generals? the freedoms?.. when you think turkey will evolve from the dark ages?



If you can stand it go take a look. Be sure to go high up into the mountains where you will find the Turkey you crave for. As for the rest, well, I think the insular and racist Greeks could learn a thing or two from a tolerant and understanding but threatened people. They have no more problems than your corrupt government that is becoming a thorn in the side of the EU. I think when it comes to the crunch, the way Greece, and even more so, Cyprus got into the EU will become more and more significant so you dismissing these facts is just farting in the wind. You can't smell it but the rest of the world is beginning too. Welcome to the real world.
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Postby pitsilos » Mon May 14, 2007 10:19 am

zan i asked you specific questions and you refuse to answer but you rather and i am gonna use bans words, you are ranting uncontrollably...

I am gonna ask you for the 3rd time so other forum members can see it as well

and for the 3rd time....the kurds? the generals? the freedoms?.. when you think turkey will evolve from the dark ages?
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Postby Piratis » Mon May 14, 2007 10:25 am

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Piratis wrote:Keeping Turkey out of EU is the first objective. The second one is to make the Turks to dislike Europeans as much as possible and push them into Islamic fundamentalism. These are some important factors that in the future can play a very important role in the shift of the balance of power in our region which is required for a fair solution to the Cyprus Problem. Therefore Cyprus should use the little power that it has to help the developments go in that direction.


This explains your whole attitude and lack of foresight just as your illustrious leader. You and Kifeas still itch for a war to prove your manhood. Time for Kifeas to show us a few more pictures of tanks and bunkers I think. You can show us a picture of someone else’s big penis and claim it as your own. You cannot see that the army will not allow Islamic fundamentalism and the oil dependant countries will not allow instability in Turkey. If the north is annexed to Turkey you can bleat all you like but you will never get back an inch. Try telling your people the truth and see how long TPap lasts then. Keep up the football chants boys, you are going down a division. :roll:


The war started in 1974 when Turkey invaded our island.

The oil is in Kurdistan, and with Turkey becoming even more unstable and more difficult to manage, and seeing that it will be impossible to get Turkey in EU (which would help to control Turkey easier) then it will become obvious that splitting Turkey up in a few ways will help to keep the region under control easier.
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Postby zan » Mon May 14, 2007 10:25 am

pitsilos wrote:zan i asked you specific questions and you refuse to answer but you rather and i am gonna use bans words, you are ranting uncontrollably...

I am gonna ask you for the 3rd time so other forum members can see it as well

and for the 3rd time....the kurds? the generals? the freedoms?.. when you think turkey will evolve from the dark ages?



When Greece and the "RoC" do with their equal problems. Greece, with all the islands like Crete and Macedonia looking for settlement and the "RoC" with its TC problem and its recent history. The one word answer to your pathetic question is, I suppose, SOON I HOPE!
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Postby pitsilos » Mon May 14, 2007 10:27 am

zan thinks US invests and turkey gets the benefits...yeah right pull the other one it plays jingle bells. :lol:
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Postby zan » Mon May 14, 2007 10:32 am

pitsilos wrote:zan thinks US invests and turkey gets the benefits...yeah right pull the other one it plays jingle bells. :lol:



It worked for you so why not us. What you need to do is look at past events and put two and two together. It is working against your interests so you don't want to see it but it is there matey and we are riding high on it. :wink:
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Postby pitsilos » Mon May 14, 2007 10:46 am

zan we are talking about oil...care to tell me how the roc benefitted from that?
not long ago the roc announced oil and surveys and contarcts...what happened to turkey? care to elaborate or shall I? :lol:

yeah one step froward and 10 backwards...great policy, please keep it up :lol:
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Postby alexISS » Mon May 14, 2007 11:18 am

zan wrote:how ready were Greece and the "RoC" when they were accepted so again get off your high horse.


They were obviously more "ready" than Turkey is. Also note that when Greece entered the (what was later known as the) EU, the standards were much higher than what they are now. Today's Turkey wouldn't have the slimest chance in 1980. The RoC on the other hand was the country with the best "overall score" between the 10 countries that were simultaneously accepted in the EU
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Postby alexISS » Mon May 14, 2007 11:24 am

zan wrote:I think the insular and racist Greeks could learn a thing or two from a tolerant and understanding but threatened people.


Yes it's obvious that the "Grey Wolves" (of who there is no Greek equivalent) are understanding but threatened people.
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Postby pitsilos » Mon May 14, 2007 11:27 am

he knows all that but its eating him alive as we speak. can't wait to see what he will be saying when the euro is adopted and what that will mean in real terms.

phase one was the EU amd phase two coming right up with the euro. he also forgets that the roc is a contributor and not a taker.
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