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Postby Niki » Mon May 14, 2007 5:23 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:Given that in Cyprus the main power switch and main fuses are invariably on the outside of the house – what stops a burglar simply switching off the power, cleaning you out and then switching it back on again? :?


Don't they usually have back up batteries???
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon May 14, 2007 7:02 pm

Niki wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Given that in Cyprus the main power switch and main fuses are invariably on the outside of the house – what stops a burglar simply switching off the power, cleaning you out and then switching it back on again? :?


Don't they usually have back up batteries???

I’m guessing they don’t – his web site says that the cameras automatically reset after a power failure…

Unless there was a server on-site to store the images and all the cameras (and the server) had battery back-up the system just wouldn’t work here. Well, it would work if you want to watch your pool cleaner or gardener doing their stuff but not as a burglary deterrent I wouldn’t think… :roll:
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Postby simonwjones » Tue May 15, 2007 12:57 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
Niki wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Given that in Cyprus the main power switch and main fuses are invariably on the outside of the house – what stops a burglar simply switching off the power, cleaning you out and then switching it back on again? :?


Don't they usually have back up batteries???

I’m guessing they don’t – his web site says that the cameras automatically reset after a power failure…

Unless there was a server on-site to store the images and all the cameras (and the server) had battery back-up the system just wouldn’t work here. Well, it would work if you want to watch your pool cleaner or gardener doing their stuff but not as a burglary deterrent I wouldn’t think… :roll:


http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=21

Would be an option Mr G

The images are stored onto our server and the customer logs in using their username and password allowing them to view live and past footage from their property.

So if someone fancied there chances of breaking in and were to cut off the power from the outside and break in the camera would sense the motion and we would be sent a text message and an email with jpg files of the event which we acts as fantastic evidence. Once we recieve the text we will view the camera and contact the Police on behalf of the customer. This is a service we provide 24/7.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue May 15, 2007 8:57 am

simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Niki wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Given that in Cyprus the main power switch and main fuses are invariably on the outside of the house – what stops a burglar simply switching off the power, cleaning you out and then switching it back on again? :?


Don't they usually have back up batteries???

I’m guessing they don’t – his web site says that the cameras automatically reset after a power failure…

Unless there was a server on-site to store the images and all the cameras (and the server) had battery back-up the system just wouldn’t work here. Well, it would work if you want to watch your pool cleaner or gardener doing their stuff but not as a burglary deterrent I wouldn’t think… :roll:


http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=21

Would be an option Mr G

The images are stored onto our server and the customer logs in using their username and password allowing them to view live and past footage from their property.

So if someone fancied there chances of breaking in and were to cut off the power from the outside and break in the camera would sense the motion and we would be sent a text message and an email with jpg files of the event which we acts as fantastic evidence. Once we recieve the text we will view the camera and contact the Police on behalf of the customer. This is a service we provide 24/7.

Yes, a UPS would obviously work…

But you’d have to fit one to every camera… and the broadband modem, router, etc.

Do you do that? :shock:
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Postby simonwjones » Tue May 15, 2007 9:21 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Niki wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Given that in Cyprus the main power switch and main fuses are invariably on the outside of the house – what stops a burglar simply switching off the power, cleaning you out and then switching it back on again? :?


Don't they usually have back up batteries???

I’m guessing they don’t – his web site says that the cameras automatically reset after a power failure…

Unless there was a server on-site to store the images and all the cameras (and the server) had battery back-up the system just wouldn’t work here. Well, it would work if you want to watch your pool cleaner or gardener doing their stuff but not as a burglary deterrent I wouldn’t think… :roll:


http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=21

Would be an option Mr G

The images are stored onto our server and the customer logs in using their username and password allowing them to view live and past footage from their property.

So if someone fancied there chances of breaking in and were to cut off the power from the outside and break in the camera would sense the motion and we would be sent a text message and an email with jpg files of the event which we acts as fantastic evidence. Once we recieve the text we will view the camera and contact the Police on behalf of the customer. This is a service we provide 24/7.

Yes, a UPS would obviously work…

But you’d have to fit one to every camera… and the broadband modem, router, etc.

Do you do that? :shock:


What the customer wants, the customer gets!!! One UPS per property should be fine and they are very cheap (home users)

For apartments they may not be required.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue May 15, 2007 11:20 am

simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Niki wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Given that in Cyprus the main power switch and main fuses are invariably on the outside of the house – what stops a burglar simply switching off the power, cleaning you out and then switching it back on again? :?


Don't they usually have back up batteries???

I’m guessing they don’t – his web site says that the cameras automatically reset after a power failure…

Unless there was a server on-site to store the images and all the cameras (and the server) had battery back-up the system just wouldn’t work here. Well, it would work if you want to watch your pool cleaner or gardener doing their stuff but not as a burglary deterrent I wouldn’t think… :roll:


http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=21

Would be an option Mr G

The images are stored onto our server and the customer logs in using their username and password allowing them to view live and past footage from their property.

So if someone fancied there chances of breaking in and were to cut off the power from the outside and break in the camera would sense the motion and we would be sent a text message and an email with jpg files of the event which we acts as fantastic evidence. Once we recieve the text we will view the camera and contact the Police on behalf of the customer. This is a service we provide 24/7.

Yes, a UPS would obviously work…

But you’d have to fit one to every camera… and the broadband modem, router, etc.

Do you do that? :shock:


What the customer wants, the customer gets!!! One UPS per property should be fine and they are very cheap (home users)

For apartments they may not be required.

Oh okay – you fit a UPS and all the cameras and associated electronics are connected to it so that if a burglar does switch off the mains the system keeps working?

What about apartments tho – the mains switch and fuses are generally accessible on those too.

Also, if it is at night how would the cameras see the burglar? Do you fit infra-red cameras and IR illuminators?
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Postby halil » Tue May 15, 2007 12:13 pm

u have to explain your system how its works for your customers.if power fails even u have a ups system it will help u for a limited time.but u have to thing standby generating system for the system.if they need security they have to pay for it. there is a always solutions.....
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Postby simonwjones » Tue May 15, 2007 8:19 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Niki wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Given that in Cyprus the main power switch and main fuses are invariably on the outside of the house – what stops a burglar simply switching off the power, cleaning you out and then switching it back on again? :?


Don't they usually have back up batteries???

I’m guessing they don’t – his web site says that the cameras automatically reset after a power failure…

Unless there was a server on-site to store the images and all the cameras (and the server) had battery back-up the system just wouldn’t work here. Well, it would work if you want to watch your pool cleaner or gardener doing their stuff but not as a burglary deterrent I wouldn’t think… :roll:


http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=21

Would be an option Mr G

The images are stored onto our server and the customer logs in using their username and password allowing them to view live and past footage from their property.

So if someone fancied there chances of breaking in and were to cut off the power from the outside and break in the camera would sense the motion and we would be sent a text message and an email with jpg files of the event which we acts as fantastic evidence. Once we recieve the text we will view the camera and contact the Police on behalf of the customer. This is a service we provide 24/7.

Yes, a UPS would obviously work…

But you’d have to fit one to every camera… and the broadband modem, router, etc.

Do you do that? :shock:


What the customer wants, the customer gets!!! One UPS per property should be fine and they are very cheap (home users)

For apartments they may not be required.

Oh okay – you fit a UPS and all the cameras and associated electronics are connected to it so that if a burglar does switch off the mains the system keeps working?

What about apartments tho – the mains switch and fuses are generally accessible on those too.

Also, if it is at night how would the cameras see the burglar? Do you fit infra-red cameras and IR illuminators?


Yep, the system keeps working. You can purchase night vision cameras, however these are expensive. The most cost effective solution is to purchase a seperate IR illuminator. These cost around £60 and you can set these to come on at certain times.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Wed May 16, 2007 7:56 am

simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
simonwjones wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Niki wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Given that in Cyprus the main power switch and main fuses are invariably on the outside of the house – what stops a burglar simply switching off the power, cleaning you out and then switching it back on again? :?


Don't they usually have back up batteries???

I’m guessing they don’t – his web site says that the cameras automatically reset after a power failure…

Unless there was a server on-site to store the images and all the cameras (and the server) had battery back-up the system just wouldn’t work here. Well, it would work if you want to watch your pool cleaner or gardener doing their stuff but not as a burglary deterrent I wouldn’t think… :roll:


http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=21

Would be an option Mr G

The images are stored onto our server and the customer logs in using their username and password allowing them to view live and past footage from their property.

So if someone fancied there chances of breaking in and were to cut off the power from the outside and break in the camera would sense the motion and we would be sent a text message and an email with jpg files of the event which we acts as fantastic evidence. Once we recieve the text we will view the camera and contact the Police on behalf of the customer. This is a service we provide 24/7.

Yes, a UPS would obviously work…

But you’d have to fit one to every camera… and the broadband modem, router, etc.

Do you do that? :shock:


What the customer wants, the customer gets!!! One UPS per property should be fine and they are very cheap (home users)

For apartments they may not be required.

Oh okay – you fit a UPS and all the cameras and associated electronics are connected to it so that if a burglar does switch off the mains the system keeps working?

What about apartments tho – the mains switch and fuses are generally accessible on those too.

Also, if it is at night how would the cameras see the burglar? Do you fit infra-red cameras and IR illuminators?


Yep, the system keeps working. You can purchase night vision cameras, however these are expensive. The most cost effective solution is to purchase a seperate IR illuminator. These cost around £60 and you can set these to come on at certain times.

But surely you need an infra-red camera to work with an IR illuminator because the wavelengths of the visible and IR light are different?
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