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[Kifeas]

i have been doing some reasearch and am coming to an opinion on the Problem in Cyprus.

i almost disagree with every sentence you wrote

so let me start with this : what did your research include ?

thanks

"The Genocide files" of "Dr." Harry Gibbons!

[zan]

http://www.north-cyprus-properties.com/ ... s-plan.asp



Everything you need to know about the Akritas plan

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By Loucas Charalambous - Cyprus Mail
April 17, 2005
THE MOST important document there is about the Cyprus problem is the ‘Akritas’ plan. It is incontrovertible testimony as to how the Cyprus problem was created in the form it has had for the last 42 years. Nobody should be allowed to talk about the Cyprus problem if he has not read the ‘Akritas’ plan.

Of course, most Greek Cypriots are completely in the dark about the history of their country’s troubles, something which constantly pushes them into making new mistakes. I would bet my life that among the hundreds of clueless and uneducated characters who appear in the media every day as journalists – supposedly to inform the public – you will not find 10 who would have read this document, which is the key to understanding the Cyprus problem. This bitter truth alone explains why we Greek Cypriots are rooted to a primitive level of politics.

In reality, the Cyprus problem was brought into being by this idiotic and nationally catastrophic plan. A plan, which, in Demetris Christofias’ phraseology, would have been describe as treasonous. It is a glowing monument of political stupidity and irresponsibility. The very same man who had signed the Treaty of Establishment for this state and his ministers, as soon as this state came into being, began plotting its dissolution. And for this purpose they set up an illegal organisation. Only in the minds of a Makarios, a Papadopoulos, a Yiorkadjis, a Kyprianou and a Lyssarides could such paranoid politics have found fertile ground.

The gist of this insane plan is included in the following few lines:

Stage 1: Create of the impression among international public opinion, that the Cyprus issue had not been solved correctly and condemn of the Treaty of Guarantee, “the first target of our attack”.

Stage 2: Seek amendment of negative elements of the agreements by all means. “We can even justify unilateral action.”

Stage 3: “Following the above action, the Treaty of Guarantee (right of interventions) is rendered legally and substantively unenforceable”.

Stage 4: “With Cyprus freed (from the treaties of Alliance and Guarantee) the people would be enabled to express and implement their desire.”

Stage 5: “Lawful confrontation by the forces of the state (police and friendly military troops) of any intervention from within or from outside because then we would be completely independent.”

This plan was not put together by people who had escaped from a mental hospital, as some may think. Its writers made it obvious that they knew very well they were playing with fire. The only parts of the document which are written in block capitals are those informing the recipients that leaking of it was tantamount to “high treason” and urging members of the organisation of their obligation to “destroy by fire”, once it had been read. They were obviously concerned that the Turks might have got wind of it.

This was the great plan, with which Mr Papadopoulos – the deputy chief of Akritas – and his fellow-fighters destroyed the Cyprus Republic, which, as he discovered 40 years later, by his own admission, was a “blessed solution”, even better than joining the EU. The achievement of Papadopoulos’ and his organisation’s national activities was truly impressive.

Within a few days, they had created the enclave between Nicosia and Kyrenia, in which they compressed a large number of the Turkish Cypriots. They laid the foundations of partition. Ten years later, the enclave was used by the Turkish invasion force as a bridgehead for its landing in Cyprus and, expanded by the troops, it evolved in the ‘Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus’.

And now that readers know who had written, in Greek, the pro-Turkish Akritas plan, they should – to use Papadopoulos’ immortal words – “judge for themselves if this helped the Hellenism of Cyprus or our case…”

[Get Real!]

Everything you need to know about the Akritas plan

Now that's what I call a comeback Zan!

I often wonder whose material you'd post if Lucas never existed. One would be forgiven for thinking that the entire TC community's "argument" hangs from a fine thread called "Lucas"!

[zan]

Everything you need to know about the Akritas plan

Now that's what I call a comeback Zan!

I often wonder whose material you'd post if Lucas never existed. One would be forgiven for thinking that the entire TC community's "argument" hangs from a fine thread called "Lucas"!

You seem to have convinced your selves of a reality in which you are victims and we the aggressors. Reality sucks huh! We will not give up on the truth GR it is up to you if you want to give up on the lies. My truth is my life story and of thousands of others. We lived with the Akritas plan and still are.

[pitsilos]

zan please reserve a couple of front row sits so i can absorb the action



i think its about time you started talking about the real genoside...

[GorillaGal]

In 1974 at its peak there was genocide and the CT were in grave danger.Turkey came and stopped this murder.They may have done crimes of there own.

Ghandi, how about this other story that I have researched my self and I came to an opinion, namely that Ghanti was a traitor that sided with the British in order to annihilate the people of India so that the country will remain a British colony for ever?

Don’t you like my “research” and my “opinion?” I have made it while defecating in the toilet room of my house, pretty much in the same way that you most likely have made your own "research" and formed your own "opinion," as above!

Kifeas--why do you have to be so cruel to this Ghandi person. S/He is just trying to learn, and that is to be comended. it's really not so nice to be so crude. have a little patience with the guy (gal?) and either help Ghandi to understand, or keep your mouth shut please
and thank you.

[pitsilos]

i have been doing some reasearch and am coming to an opinion on the Problem in Cyprus.

i think you misunderstood curry boys post...refer to the above for clarification... he finished his research and now is stating his opinion...

he is not saying please educate me...and he is a teacher mind you...would you trust your kids eductation to a fool like this?

[zan]

How can the teachers teach when they know not of what they say GG????



Pits
Do you want to tell me what that picture is? Are you running out of words and have to resort to pictures? How about a lovely picture of you with your tongue stuck out. I think that will tell a better story!

[MM_cy]

i have been doing some reasearch and am coming to an opinion on the Problem in Cyprus.

In about 1960 some GC started beleiving in Enosis.
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Hmm... hard to take seriously beyond this point as your research is "lousy".. therefore your conclusions are nonsense ..

Garbage in , garbage out as they say.... in IT circles.

Calls for Enosis wnt back a lot earlier than that..

example:

29 August 1881
The Greek Cypriot Archbishop, Bishop and the Greek representatives of 6 districts sent a pancprian memorandum to the Colonial Secretary, Lord Kimberley, saying that "they considered it a secret duty to report the wishes of the people of Cyprus (-no doubt meaning only the Greek Cypriots - ) who declared recently that their only desire is union with mother country Greece."

Hard to take your conclusions seriously

MM

[pitsilos]

How can the teachers teach when they know not of what they say GG????



Pits
Do you want to tell me what that picture is? Are you running out of words and have to resort to pictures? How about a lovely picture of you with your tongue stuck out. I think that will tell a better story!

just get me a front row sit and don't worry about spewing crap

looking at the picture i can see where zarkosky is coming from.