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by **LENA** » Mon May 14, 2007 12:18 am

Get Real! wrote:
LENA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
pitsilos wrote:get real afisti mitsia isihi re? come on mate, you know she is entitiled to her own opinion as much as everyone else...

lets put this to bed and hope fanos problem works out for him?

someone please lock this threat up along with the rest...

ps...we became kotsomoles, and the only thing is missing is the cypriot coffee and someone to read the cups

Could “daddy” please advise the “little one" about the dangerous realm of libel please?

Get Real... I NEVER SAID ANYTHING...DID I?
He pushed me to say those things and he didnt give clear answers...if he is so innocent why he deny that. I heard things not from one mouth...or 2!
I said above that is not my life or my job to judge him. I never said anything to him or any other member in this forum. What is your problem? I know about libel...do you? Do you know that is better to hear the story from both sides and create your own opinion? Leave me alone...I said to daddy to stop posting about him as well...so give an end to that...since bother you so much as well.

Initiating and contributing to a dedicated thread with the sole purpose of discussing and thus publicizing another person’s private life on a public forum constitutes LIBEL. You’d better believe it.

Lena, if I were the admin I’d ban you so fast and so bad it would make your jelly head resonate for hours. Now get out of my sight for you have sinned.

Get Real before he insult me did I ever say anything to him or about him?
NO
Even when he said things did I said that he do that and do the other and the truth is that?
NO
I said that I want proofs and that I know that he is telling lies.

So if you are bothered so much ask from Admin to do that. Really. Admin never said to me...look dont do that any more or else I will ban you or he never said because that is wrong i will ban you.

As for you Get Real...really I am not going to say more...I dont think I have to...you talk with your words for your self.

And thank God I dont have to look at you or look at me or any...so I will be around until Admin tells me to go!

OK? CLEAR?

by **Hazza** » Mon May 14, 2007 9:12 pm

Good for you Lena.

From what I can make out of the topics here, Lena has been careful with her words. Rather than everyone looking at one side of things, she is bringing a new angle in it, in raising awareness that alot of things don't add up. She hasn't thrown any insults at anyone, nor has she made any personal attacks on anyone. She is however pointing out that there are 2 sides to every story, that things are not as clear cut as some people think.

Well done Lena on sticking your neck out and doing what you believe is right!

by **LENA** » Mon May 14, 2007 11:23 pm

Hazza wrote:Good for you Lena.

From what I can make out of the topics here, Lena has been careful with her words. Rather than everyone looking at one side of things, she is bringing a new angle in it, in raising awareness that alot of things don't add up. She hasn't thrown any insults at anyone, nor has she made any personal attacks on anyone. She is however pointing out that there are 2 sides to every story, that things are not as clear cut as some people think.

Well done Lena on sticking your neck out and doing what you believe is right!

Thank you Hazza for all your support. Thank God I am not crazy...since other people can understand what I am saying here, I am not that crazy. Thank you for all your kind words and support!

by **fanourıo** » Tue May 15, 2007 1:57 pm

Imagine how would they react if they DID actually help....
Nevertheless, time will show that those who helped will smile, while those who reacted in a manner to stop whatever help was on my my will have to apologise with a sour smile...or shall I say Brandy Sour?
Get Real, you naughty little boy! You should not attack Lena with threats like LIBEL, it all has been my fault for coming to the position to "beg" for help in the forum.. However some people do not understand the difference between the words LOAN and CHARITY.
If you apply for a loan, do you really have to give the reasons?
And when I gave the reasons , who believed them?
ONLY those that had no mistrust! Those who reached out and helped!
I will publish the names and the amounts sent to me when its all over, I have already published most of your names, along with the scans of the return payment slips, but are those people who critisised me or try to prevent members from helping ready to apologise for preventing others to help?
I have not sent PM for help by the way except for 1 or 2 people which aparently are not following the Forum any more or are buzy elsewehere.
1/6/07 is not very far...

by **LENA** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:50 pm

I decided to give an end to that joke but you seem that you don’t want to by posting that…and since I can see my name there is like giving me an invitation! So…

fanourıo wrote:Imagine how would they react if they DID actually help....
Nevertheless, time will show that those who helped will smile, while those who reacted in a manner to stop whatever help was on my my will have to apologise with a sour smile...or shall I say Brandy Sour?
Get Real, you naughty little boy! You should not attack Lena with threats like LIBEL, it all has been my fault for coming to the position to "beg" for help in the forum.. However some people do not understand the difference between the words LOAN and CHARITY.
If you apply for a loan, do you really have to give the reasons?
And when I gave the reasons , who believed them?
ONLY those that had no mistrust! Those who reached out and helped!
I will publish the names and the amounts sent to me when its all over, I have already published most of your names, along with the scans of the return payment slips, but are those people who critisised me or try to prevent members from helping ready to apologise for preventing others to help?
I have not sent PM for help by the way except for 1 or 2 people which aparently are not following the Forum any more or are buzy elsewehere.
1/6/07 is not very far...

I ask you to post proofs that I am wrong…and you are saying that you will post name of your “helpers” in that discomfort position that you are at the moment! Fanos…prove that I am wrong and I will keep my promise…I will apologise to you and all members and I will leave the forum as well. Really I am not joking here!

But let me remind you couple of things that I said…and you perhaps didn’t pay much attention.

LENA wrote:I heard things not from one mouth...or 2!
I said above that is not my life or my job to judge him. [...] Do you know that is better to hear the story from both sides and create your own opinion?

LENA wrote: But let me tell you something before I keep going. Cyprus is soooo small. You know lots of people in both sides. Do you think that is so difficult that we accidentally know the same people? Do you believe that all those people are crazy and only you and I we are the intelligent of this life? Fanos…from every single one I heart something different about you. By accident I know more about you than I should knew. BUT is not my job to judge you or tell you what to do.

LENA wrote:Fanos lets take things from the beginning. Did I even before came and tell you, you have done this wrong in your life, do that and do the other? NO NEVER. I never judge you. Did I ever said anything to any of our lovely and kind members, like not to give you money or something about you? NO NEVER. Nobody got any pm from me telling them what to do or what I know about you or what I think about you. I don’t mess with others life. I will not comment on anything about you or him. Are your lives not mine. I am not your mum or his mum to tell you what to do. If you ask my opinion I will tell you what I think but I am not going into your lives.

LENA wrote:Before I meet you face to face we exchange some conversations…did I ever say anything of those you said? I ask you to close your mouth as well and you didn’t. Even if I transfer the money I told you that I didn’t want to mention my name to anybody ever…but I can see my name up there…why? During me trip you said things to me ….did I ever say anything about you and your personal stuff? I found out from other people…and not only from our COMMON FRIEND things about you as well…and spending the whole day with you I could say things about you by my self as well…and my mother was there as well …do you remember…I never said anything.

LENA wrote:As for me, I stopped because you said in the forum about £1000 AND TO ME £1640, you said to me it was your daughter and the you came and post that is financial reasons…I was mad because you used your daughter as an excuse, I am a bit sensitive with children matters, sorry that I had to interfere trust me I will not do that again, I will just take my chances to see people fucked up even if I could do something. I am not saying that you will not give the money back…now I am sure you will you want to prove that I am wrong and I am glad that even like that those people they will get their money back. I didn’t help at the end for my own reasons which it will not help none of us to mention them.

LENA wrote: think what I had to do…should I leave it like it was and close my mouth one more time or “protect” some people that “might” didn’t get their money back. You don’t know what problem they have in their homes and if they didn’t get something for their children just to be able to give a smile to your daughter again as you said…that was the purpose according to what you said to me. You said that your daughter had to go through an operation for her kidney. But up there you posted that it was for financial problems but one of the reasons that you had those bills it was your daughter. To me it was only the surgery part…no bills no debts…

Are you willing to do that? Give us all the true story about you…not what you told me and what you said to Karma as you said…but what you said to the common friend of us, what people know about you in the north. In your jobs…do you want to go through all that? I never said anything to you or anybody. I accept what you said. Is your life and is not my job to judge you. But asking money from people that you don’t know … and from people that you know (common friend) … are you willing to go through? To open my mouth? Do you want to tell where you spent your money? Why since you have 3 jobs you couldn’t find money for your daughter IF THAT IS TRUE? Why you end up in the north?

I didn’t say to Admin that you will NOT give the money but you MIGHT not.
Ok lets start from telling every member the details that you said to us….and compare…what others now? Give prove that your daughter was in that clinic and what date? Any receipt? Give us your wife phone? Where were you today? What did you had to do and you didn’t do it?

I ask you to tell me where she is and that my mum will visit her as a nurse and that she will give some money to your wife…you said no…and that your daughter was in that clinic from 30/04-08/05…and that now is home. That the surgery cost 1640…but you said in your previous thread that cost 1000 pounds...why that amount had been increased by £640

Please give us all the detail and make my go from here…prove that you are right and I am wrong…Please!

LENA wrote: I PROMISE THAT IF YOU ARE WILLING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE STUFF, AND YOU PROVE THAT YOU ARE RIGHT AND I AM WRONG…I WILL APOLOGISE TO ALL, ESPECIALLY TO YOU, I WILL LEAVE FROM THE FORUM, AND I WILL DO WHAT YOU ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS!

Fanos is all that clear to you? Is any of the above made sense to you? Do you get any of my messages?

by **GorillaGal** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:01 pm

i don't have time to read all this Lena, i hope to later. but as the person who gave Fanos the most amount of money (i think), i did not give him the money to get it back. if he pays me back, i will appreciate it. that was money i was going to donate in memory of my best friend who died two years ago. it was for a brick, with an inscription--they are fundraising for in my local pet shelter--to make a nice dog run area for the resident dogs. however, i feel it would be better used to help a fellow human being. i know the shelter will get what they need. i am not sure fanos will. and i am sure my dead friend understands, and backs me up on this one. so if i get the money back, great, and if i don't, well--who cares, really? i never lend money out with the hope of getting it back. that would just be stupid. i HAVE been around the block, a few times.
so who really cares WHY fanos needs the money. fact is, he does. and why do you feel this major need to prove yourself so smart? you ARE smart. and it was your choice not to lend him money? no one said you had to. if it makes you feel better, you are right, he is wrong.
yeah, right, uh huh.

by **LENA** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:21 pm

GorillaGal wrote:i don't have time to read all this Lena, i hope to later. but as the person who gave Fanos the most amount of money (i think), i did not give him the money to get it back. if he pays me back, i will appreciate it. that was money i was going to donate in memory of my best friend who died two years ago. it was for a brick, with an inscription--they are fundraising for in my local pet shelter--to make a nice dog run area for the resident dogs. however, i feel it would be better used to help a fellow human being. i know the shelter will get what they need. i am not sure fanos will. and i am sure my dead friend understands, and backs me up on this one. so if i get the money back, great, and if i don't, well--who cares, really? i never lend money out with the hope of getting it back. that would just be stupid. i HAVE been around the block, a few times.
so who really cares WHY fanos needs the money. fact is, he does. and why do you feel this major need to prove yourself so smart? you ARE smart. and it was your choice not to lend him money? no one said you had to. if it makes you feel better, you are right, he is wrong.
yeah, right, uh huh.

GG really this is not a matter of who is right and who is wrong. This is not a matter of giving money to a human being or not.
Trust me if he told me what was the real reason...i was going to give as much as i could. I am not rich and God knows how I am in UK and paying my expenses. But I was really willing to give and I was going to tell him look I could give them to you but I dont want them back...as you said. Ok I might couldnt give as much as you but any amount when you are deep in * is appreciated. But GG the matter that pissed me off and try to warn Admin AND NOT ANYBODY ELSE...I WAS NOT GOING TO SAY TO ANYBODY TO GIVE OR NOT GIVE HIM MONEY it was the fact that he used his daughter. That was his excuse and he has done that again in the past. God know if it was true then. GG I am sensitive in that matter. I never used as an excuse for anything the illness of someone...not even when i was in school and I didnt want to go or I had to say something to my teachers. I never said I had my mum or brother ill or any...I believe that is like you are pushing your faith...like you are wishing that thing really happened.

But he came back and accuse me for not being human. And he insult Admin for something that I did...well I am responsible of my actions and I had to protect my self from his accusations and clear Admins position.

What was that I did so wrong? Tell me GG...if you knew lots of * about someone and you knew that he might not give the money back to some people that they have families and children etc...you was going to sit and watch? I warn Admin...by saying that he might not give them back. So tell me what was that I did that upset you? It was so bad what I did? I cared about other people?

If you dont believe here is my pm to him...

Dear Admin,

I know Fanos personally and I know that he is so innocent as he want to say.
Unfortunately last night I saw his thread, I talk with him and he told me that he needed those money for an urgent surgery of his daughter. I talk with a common friend of us few min later just to see if its true (this person works with him and he tell's him almost everything). Unfortunately the whole thing is a lie and he have some bills with the police thats why he needed the money. Also I know for sure that he visit casino often and lots of other things that are not so nice.
When I offer him the choice that my mum will go to his daughter and ex-wife to give the money and see the girl because she is a nurse he said no and that his wife didnt want to know anything about that and that the girl is home now etc...the whole thing is just a lie.
I dont want to post that because is not my business what he does in his life and because I know him personally...but I want to protect the members of the forum. He might give the money back...but he might not...he has lots of unpaid bills...so nothing is for sure. Please can you do something but please dont use my name in that.
If you need anything more please contact with me.

Your sincerely Lena

He ask me before to post it and I said no...now the whole thing is way to far ... so did I insult him or say that he will not give the money? Or insult him with any word?