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[miltiades]

""""Why don't you just stop talking shit for once in your life. "Not at the expense of others". Who has been profiting from the trades in Cyprus when we have been left to rot. Who has had the mega big monster share of the tourist trade while we have been left to rot. Who has had the freedom to trade with whom they like when we have been left to rot.

Go on tell me that we did it to our selves you worthless so called Turkish Cypriot. If those killed by the EOKA murderers could just get up and look you in the eye for just one second you would turn to stone and rot where you stood.

Do yourself a favor and get the hell back to the TRNC and see who you really are. At the moment you are a nobody. A lost soul that thinks he knows what he is but really has no idea. "Not at the expense of others". We give our lives. We get chased out of our country and we lose our identity and you believe we are where we are because we are benefiting at the expense of others. What a crock of shit. You do not qualify as a Turkish Cypriot or a Cypriot. You are a traitor to both. """

Is he talking shit because he has a brain and you dont , because he feels compassion and you dont because he is not full of hatred and you are , he is a realist and a T/C who consider me just as I consider you , to be his compatriot. He feels just as I

[miltiades]

ZAN WROTE :
""""Why don't you just stop talking shit for once in your life. "Not at the expense of others". Who has been profiting from the trades in Cyprus when we have been left to rot. Who has had the mega big monster share of the tourist trade while we have been left to rot. Who has had the freedom to trade with whom they like when we have been left to rot.

Go on tell me that we did it to our selves you worthless so called Turkish Cypriot. If those killed by the EOKA murderers could just get up and look you in the eye for just one second you would turn to stone and rot where you stood.

Do yourself a favor and get the hell back to the TRNC and see who you really are. At the moment you are a nobody. A lost soul that thinks he knows what he is but really has no idea. "Not at the expense of others". We give our lives. We get chased out of our country and we lose our identity and you believe we are where we are because we are benefiting at the expense of others. What a crock of shit. You do not qualify as a Turkish Cypriot or a Cypriot. You are a traitor to both. """

Is he talking shit because he has a brain and you dont , because he feels compassion and you dont because he is not full of hatred and you are , he is a realist and a T/C who consider me just as I consider you , to be his compatriot. He feels just as I do that Cyprus belongs to us all and that the past that you keep bringing up must be laid to rest.The nonsense by Bignot are the same rubbish you get on the fanatic sited promoting reasons why Cyprus has to remain divided . Enosis he says is still alive !!!! Eoka b is still prominent.Absolute crap spoken by immature irresponsible partitionists. I asked you before what makes a nation function in a democratic and peaceful fashion.It is the people who are prepared to sacrifice their selfish needs and wants for the sake of the future generations to come. We are free in the West because our forefathers stood up to the Nazis and to Soviet expansionist ideas. Let your heart fill with respect for others who have suffered and lost their children , had daughters raped , husbands taken away never to be seen again. Your brain is filled with all the hatred that it could take. Kikapu and his family suffered to , and so did Birkibrisli' s who had to abandon their ancestral homes and seek refuge elsewhere. They have grown in stature and forgive and forget unlike you who is besotted with the 60s. Cyprus is now united with all of Europe .

And you dare little man to abuse Kikapu , a man who follows common sense. He explained the reasons as his hesitance to visit the occupied part of Cyprus. Take or leave it. I use the word occupied since this is how the entire world refers to that part of Cyprus. I mean no offence to my T/C brothers . I have insulted many a Greek / GC fanatics when their views are obnoxious and you know me from my past posts I do not tolerate stupidity.

[Kikapu]

What a crock of shit. You do not qualify as a Turkish Cypriot or a Cypriot. You are a traitor to both.

Yes Zan, you have spoken like a True ACTA Patriot. This is what you people believe in, is it not ?. Any one who questions anything about the "TRNC", can only be a Traitor.

I told you before, that I will help you in what ever you need, if you want to work towards a 1 country 2 states solution, but all I get from you, is gloating about the creation of the de facto State called "TRNC", that is doing more harm to the TC's than good. Don't you dare come and complain afterwards, that the TC's are suffering, because you do not want to play by the international rules and respect for sovereignty of Cyprus, just because many people are making money of GC land, and as you said the other day, "what's wrong in making some money, while there is no settlement". Or better yet, the statement about " the more Brits buy GC land the more they will become part of the problem, in which, they will have to become part of the solution". Do you actually believe all the crap that you write. You want the Brits to buy, so that they will become a "force" against a settlement, hoping that Britain would back them up, so that the Brits will not lose their "HARAM" land either. You people stop at nothing to further your cause, to keep the de facto state as is, then bitch like hell, because International Community is not helping the TC's. Don't blame the RoC for that, blame the International Community for respecting International Laws.

[Get Real!]

Miltiades, how come you're quoting like a newbie?

[denizaksulu]

What is a GC citizenship? I am aware of a Citizen of the Republic of Cyprus. Under RoC Law anybody born in the RoC has a right to this citizenship.

[zan]

ZAN WROTE :
""""

Why don't you just stop talking shit for once in your life. "Not at the expense of others". Who has been profiting from the trades in Cyprus when we have been left to rot. Who has had the mega big monster share of the tourist trade while we have been left to rot. Who has had the freedom to trade with whom they like when we have been left to rot.

Go on tell me that we did it to our selves you worthless so called Turkish Cypriot. If those killed by the EOKA murderers could just get up and look you in the eye for just one second you would turn to stone and rot where you stood.

Do yourself a favor and get the hell back to the TRNC and see who you really are. At the moment you are a nobody. A lost soul that thinks he knows what he is but really has no idea. "Not at the expense of others". We give our lives. We get chased out of our country and we lose our identity and you believe we are where we are because we are benefiting at the expense of others. What a crock of shit. You do not qualify as a Turkish Cypriot or a Cypriot. You are a traitor to both.

"""

Is he talking shit because he has a brain and you dont , because he feels compassion and you dont because he is not full of hatred and you are , he is a realist and a T/C who consider me just as I consider you , to be his compatriot. He feels just as I do that Cyprus belongs to us all and that the past that you keep bringing up must be laid to rest.The nonsense by Bignot are the same rubbish you get on the fanatic sited promoting reasons why Cyprus has to remain divided . Enosis he says is still alive !!!! Eoka b is still prominent.Absolute crap spoken by immature irresponsible partitionists. I asked you before what makes a nation function in a democratic and peaceful fashion.It is the people who are prepared to sacrifice their selfish needs and wants for the sake of the future generations to come. We are free in the West because our forefathers stood up to the Nazis and to Soviet expansionist ideas. Let your heart fill with respect for others who have suffered and lost their children , had daughters raped , husbands taken away never to be seen again. Your brain is filled with all the hatred that it could take. Kikapu and his family suffered to , and so did Birkibrisli' s who had to abandon their ancestral homes and seek refuge elsewhere. They have grown in stature and forgive and forget unlike you who is besotted with the 60s. Cyprus is now united with all of Europe .

And you dare little man to abuse Kikapu , a man who follows common sense. He explained the reasons as his hesitance to visit the occupied part of Cyprus. Take or leave it. I use the word occupied since this is how the entire world refers to that part of Cyprus. I mean no offence to my T/C brothers . I have insulted many a Greek / GC fanatics when their views are obnoxious and you know me from my past posts I do not tolerate stupidity.

Two goes at one post and you still screw it up. More wine sir!

I have told you before you are just a salesman and a bad one at that. You could not sell the "RoC" to a single true TC even if it were something worth the EU paper it was written on. True Cypriots are the ones that voted yes for the Annan Plan which were the vast majority of TCs and a small honest amount of GCs. The rest of you are crooks and just want to profit even more on our misery. Thanks to that vote though, we have now been set free and our consciences are clear. The refugees are on the conscience of the "RoC2 now and god help them. They are being bought off by TPap and his bunch of crooks with TC land because TPap has realised that he has made a massive mistake. We are not losers any more. We will take what we've got and make it work with or without you so you can take another drink and drown your sorrows because you are not a Cypriot either. You guys think you can take the name and drag it through the gutter and think you own it. Well my friend, we showed our Cypriotness and still you choose to bend the facts and try to come out on top. True Cypriots do not try to screw over there countrymen by selling them a piece of shit as a lump of gold.

[zan]

What a crock of shit. You do not qualify as a Turkish Cypriot or a Cypriot. You are a traitor to both.

Yes Zan, you have spoken like a True ACTA Patriot. This is what you people believe in, is it not ?. Any one who questions anything about the "TRNC", can only be a Traitor.

I told you before, that I will help you in what ever you need, if you want to work towards a 1 country 2 states solution, but all I get from you, is gloating about the creation of the de facto State called "TRNC", that is doing more harm to the TC's than good. Don't you dare come and complain afterwards, that the TC's are suffering, because you do not want to play by the international rules and respect for sovereignty of Cyprus, just because many people are making money of GC land, and as you said the other day, "what's wrong in making some money, while there is no settlement". Or better yet, the statement about " the more Brits buy GC land the more they will become part of the problem, in which, they will have to become part of the solution". Do you actually believe all the crap that you write. You want the Brits to buy, so that they will become a "force" against a settlement, hoping that Britain would back them up, so that the Brits will not lose their "HARAM" land either. You people stop at nothing to further your cause, to keep the de facto state as is, then bitch like hell, because International Community is not helping the TC's. Don't blame the RoC for that, blame the International Community for respecting International Laws.

I ask you again ...WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR YOUR TURKISH CYPRIOT BROTHERS?????

I am working for their rights and to give them a proper life. You just sit there and curse every single one of them for what? Your false sense of Cypriotness. You dare speak about the boys at ATCA and compare yourself to them. Yes there are some that are overly nationalistic but the reason they came about is because every where they looked there were GC web sites and lobby groups that were spreading their hateful lies about US. Yes US the Turkish Cypriots, their supposed cousins. How many of their dead was missing and how many the Turks butchered and how we stole their homes and all the other crap they fed the world for years and years. They decided to set up their web sites and lobby groups and tell the world their side of the story. All they have had is shits like you telling them that they should forget the past when it was the lies about the past that got them going in the first place. Now that our story is getting out, all of a sudden we should forget the past. We WILL forget the past when and only when the past has been put into perspective and the GCs can say that well we might have just deserved what we got because of what we did to the TCs. How convenient to forget the past when it suits you and your buddies. When the people that are attacking and changing the realities of Wikipedia and all the other sites on the Net and they sit down and write he truth about what happened...Then we will forget the past.

[Viewpoint]

Well said zan, these people know no bounds they will try to convince you that the problem started in 1974 and sell you the faulty "RoC" which they opposed and never intended to adopt until the TCs element was extracted. All of a sudden they have become converted Cypriots which is really a GC promotion gimmick to trick simple minded diluted individuals who have lived abroad for so long they can only have 1 people, where was all this Cypriotism in 1963 when the TCs we second class citizens and GCs were enjoying themselves with our rights. You are right we have to make what we have work telling the GCs to go amuse themselves until they come to their senses and realize that we will not be pushed to one side and submit like the TCs who conveniently live abroad and try dictating to us what we should do. We TCs have to stay determined and focussed, the TRNC cannot be kept isolated forever and a time will come when the world will say whats the use of keeping these people in limbo just because GCs want to force them into submission. It has not worked for 44 years and it will never work, the sooner GCs realize this the better it will be for both our communities as the current policies only serve to maintain the current status quo and alienate both sides.

[denizaksulu]

I have given up reading this post. Come on Cypriots, forget the past, what does the future hold for us? You lot carry on like this, you will get nowhere. Whether its the Minoans, Myceneans or Hittites or Khirokitians is anybody in the Eu bothered?

[T_C]

Kikapu is out of his mind.....!!!!!

So you are popular in the "TRNC". What are the guide lines these days of being popular, or are there any, since living in a "corrupt society", would only require bribery and special favours.

"Sins of HARAM". Yes I know, that most of you have committed this evil act, so don't blame me, if your conscience is now bothering you.

As far as the "free TC" comment mrfromng, there's nothing money can't buy in the "TRNC", if one was inclined to pay "ransom".

it is also fair to say, that his actions of stealing 30,000 Donüms of GC land, hat set the course of creating a "Corrupt Society".

Well done for building a Society of the Corrupt and Unethical, and committing all the sins of "HARAM".

Sorry, but I'm not in the habit of endorsing illegal Highway Robbery.

and then he comes out with...

Any one who questions anything about the "TRNC", can only be a Traitor.

"QUESTIONS" You do a bit more than "questioning" don't you think Kikapu? Then you act like a innocent virgin and think people are conspiring against you and that people are out to get you..

You're always generalising us aswell and you don't know anything about TC people or the TRNC and it's so obvious man! You talk like someone who has never been to the TRNC and someone who's listened to the GC point of view a bit too much. You're doing more damage to your cause than anyone else with some of your posts mate.

Are you by any chance working for the "P&P" department of KKTC trying reverse psychology on TC's to get them to support the KKTC more than they already do...??

History will not be forgotten!! Before you completely attack TCs again also try asking the GCs to "forget the past" and with that to forget their lands and their homes since the invasion is also "in the past". We "stole" the properties 40 years ago why is it so hard to forget?

KKTC isn't going anywhere, we all know this. So let's stop wasting time cursing something which is not just going to disseapear over night...

No amount of cursing the North is going to make a difference, it's just making things worse.

Some of you guys need a new stratergy!