Birkibrisli wrote:Viewpoint,Zan,turkish_cypriot,bigOz...Thank you all for resonding to my post.Please excuse me for not responding to you individually,but I truly do not have the time...
There is no doubt the biggest obstacle is "trust" as you said,bigOz...
And I have often criticised the Papadopoulos government for doing nothing to foster more trust between the communities.Talat and co are doing nothing about it either,so we can safely agree that the "governments" are not going to do anything about anything...They seem to be content with the status quo...
My whole point/dream revolves around the "trust" coming from the bottom up,from the people...I never said it was going to be easy,turkish_cypriot...But the key is empathy...coming from both sides...When we<TCs>can see the issues from the GC point of view,and when the GCs can see the issues from the TC point of view,the solution to the problem will not be far away...
I being from TC origin,try to see things from the GC point...As objectively as I can...You have to give our compatriots these points...Talat can decide nothing by himself,it is true that all depends on Turkey and especially on the political influence of the Military.Why should Tpapa talk to Talat and elevate him to equal status??? Turkey did not stay in Cyprus to protect the TCs...That can be done by placing a special division of 20,000 troops somewhere like Mersin,and keeping a rapid strike force at the ready always...They would only be 7 munites away by jet plane...
Turkey has illegally divided the island,and became an occupier against all international conventions...I am also on record for saying the initial intervention was legal...That became an invasion when Turkey did not restore the legitimate Republic of Cyprus as agreed under the 1960 consititution...Turkey again contravened the Geneva agreement by bringing in the settlers to replace the indigenous population of GCs and TCs who fled to the South or overseas...So Turkey has turned the whole thing into a batttle of political wits between the RoC and herself.And now with Cyprus in the EU the game is played on that stage...There is a good chance that one day when the TC presence in Cyprus becomes totally negligible,and when Cyprus issue is the only one standing between Turkey and the EU membership,there is every possibility that Turkey will dictate a referandum to the "new" Cypriots who have no alliegence to Cyprus at all,and pull them all back to Turkey...Game over for TCs...Now remember I am looking at it from the GC point of view...And I understand every move they make...Can I be sure that they will succeed?Of course not...They could end up losing the baby with the bathwater...But that is not the point.If that happens we hve all lost...All Cypriots...TCs because they have become culturally extinct...and GCs because they have become Turkish subjects again...There is one sure way of making that Cypriots win out of this madness...Putting our Cypriotness first,and reuniting in a democratic Republic with full respect for human rights and equal opportunity principles,under the gaze of the EU institutions to protect people's human rights...20% is a very substantial minority,and with right policies we can easily maintain our uniquness as Turkish speaking Cypriots of Islamic persuation...Any othe endevour will end up in disaster for both sides...Now I need at least one GC on this forum to empathise with the TCs and see the issues from the TC point of view.Because if no one does that,people like VP will jump up and down and say "you see,why should we be the ones to compromise all the time"...and to be honest,I won't know how to answer him...
Brother, as you know, we GCs have seen and taken the TC needs and desires into consideration, and even though historically we were the majority all over the island, and have our properties and our traces of cultural heritage spread all over the island, in a uniform way, we have accepted in principle to reformulate the statehood of our country under a federal system, that will guarantee and provide the TCs a way to maintain their distinct cultural identity and also to provide to them an effective representation and participation in the decision making process that will be running the country. What we have already long time ago accepted in principle, as a solution to the Cyprus issue, namely a BBF, is by itself an unprecedented in magnitude compromise on the part of a majority towards a minority of less than 1/5 of the population! There is no other such similar case in the world, with similar historical and demographic parameters and characteristics, in which a majority of more than 4/5ths has made in principle so many concessions to a minority of less than 1/5th! Therefore, what you have asked us to do, above; we have already done it and have accepted to compromise on certain previously unthinkable and unimaginable for us things and issues, just for the sake of peace and so that the TC community will feel more secure to prosper, with all its dignity and pride intact and in place!
However, bigOz came here and started dancing like a monkey, by posting a whole list (a bunch) of provocative and insulting lies, inaccuracies and distortions, and then he had the audacity to talk about re-unifications and solutions! I am so much pissed off, that even if half the TCs are assholes, jankasses, liars, manipulators and distorters like himself (as it unfortunately seems to be the case -judging from the reaction of other TCs in here;) not only I personally do not have the stomach and the appetite for any sort of agreement and /or reunification with him and his community, but in fact I do not even want to know, talk or see them in front of me –set aside to regard them as my compatriots! Therefore, I would rather accept to completely lose as much as 18% of my country so that we keep separate and partitioned for ever, or instead, I would wait until the day we as a RoC will have the power and will seize the chance to completely kick them out of Cyprus, in the same way that their prostitute “motherland” came here and ethnically cleansed us from the occupied north of our country, 33 years ago; even if this will be after 50 or 100 years from now! In the meantime, we will try to do as much harm to their motherland as possible, starting from having it locked out of the EU and having it kicked out of the Council of Europe
I am truly sorry for the few TCs here, like Birkibrisli and kikapu, that I do love and respect and who will unfortunately have to read the above, however, I cannot possibly imagine how I would ever be able to regard creatures like bigOz and his likes, that seem to be the majority here and in the north, as my compatriots!