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"no-see'um": slight decrease (a pestilential, tiny, flesh-coloured biting gnat)

Now that's a blessing Devil...

[BOF]

The game control in Cyprus is very strict, even much stricter then Australia (where they have to shoot 1.5 million kangaroos a year to balance their population). There a designated areas where you can shoot, and in the case of turtle doves, these areas are very limited and very small in size. Turtle doves are not stupid, once a shot is heard they just move to the next area where there are no hunters. I have been hunting them before and through the whole season I would very be lucky to have got 2 or 3 birds. This 'slaughter' rubbish is absolute bullshit made up of people who probably never been in wildlife to even observe any wild game.

Kafenes i need to put you straight on a few things......
1/ game control in cyprus is so strict i have seen "hunters " on areas signposted as prohibited shooting areas, most signs being shot full of holes anyway. Some of the birds you mention are protected species anyway and it is illegal to shoot them.. and who shot flamingoes on larnaca lake??
2/ someone mentioned cats and its true they do take birds and there are too many of them roaming around....But isnt it the "environmentally friendly hunters" that abandon their dogs and unwanted puppies when they are no longer considered useful?
3/ they dont "have"to shoot kangaroos to control them,just like they dont have to shoot Elephants in Africa...people do because they want to. Hell Australia is a huge place with relatively few people...the kanga meat ends up mainly as dog food!
4/ the "Slaughter rubbish" was mentioned on national t.v in britain last week by an eminent birdwatcher...he mentioned how rare it was to see turtle doves in the U.K. these days, due to them being shot to pieces in the eastern med area...Cyprus is a staging post for migrating birds between Africa and Europe and its there they need to take a rest ..
5/ As the author of this thread let me tell you i studied Icthyology (fish) for several years when younger...i regularly go to Africa and go off in a landrover with a tent completely self sufficient into the wild to watch wildlife..kenya, tanzania,botswana,south africa,malawi,namibia...and at 63 i still do it...so i dont think im talking bullshit.
The Greatest conservationists in the world dont carry guns.............

[BOF]

In the UK it is the sport of the gentry , including members of the Royal family. Stag hunting is the noble sport and so is fox hunting. The tourists coming to Cyprus from the UK , MOST TOURISTS ARE FROM THE UK , are well conditioned to the hunting activities taking place in their own country so I do not think that it will have a negative effect on tourism .

Miltiades i think you will find that the hunting of any animals with dogs has been banned in the U.K.... a move welcomed by around 75% of the population.
Nature programmes being amongst the most popular on T.V., i think you will find that the population is not conditioned to the killing of things, but are the most prolific givers to animal charities and animal rescue organisations around the world.

[zan]

In the UK it is the sport of the gentry , including members of the Royal family. Stag hunting is the noble sport and so is fox hunting. The tourists coming to Cyprus from the UK , MOST TOURISTS ARE FROM THE UK , are well conditioned to the hunting activities taking place in their own country so I do not think that it will have a negative effect on tourism .

Miltiades i think you will find that the hunting of any animals with dogs has been banned in the U.K.... a move welcomed by around 75% of the population.
Nature programmes being amongst the most popular on T.V., i think you will find that the population is not conditioned to the killing of things, but are the most prolific givers to animal charities and animal rescue organisations around the world.

Miltiades does not mix with the hoy paloy. Just like the queen, the world smells of fresh paint to him.

[free_cyprus]

kafenes
So????????? What's that got to do with the price of fish???

is worth more then your brains is worth

[kafenes]

BOF wrote:

Kafenes i need to put you straight on a few things......
1/ game control in cyprus is so strict i have seen "hunters " on areas signposted as prohibited shooting areas, most signs being shot full of holes anyway. Some of the birds you mention are protected species anyway and it is illegal to shoot them.. and who shot flamingoes on larnaca lake??

1-Just because you saw someone with a camouflage outfit in the fields does not mean they were hunter hunting in restricted area. Did you actually see them shooting birds in a restricted area???? I am sure not!!!
I mentioned 'filikoutouni', explaining to devil the reason why there are getting less (because mainly of the crows). The other two species, 'trigoni and chukor' are not protected species.
2-Yes, shooters are encouraged to shoot the quota of Kangaroos as the damage they do to the farmers and their crops are devastating. I might even add here that they even shoot wild horses and camels from helicopters as they are a great threat to farms as well.
3-Please show me the article (by this eminent birdwatcher) which says Cypriot hunters slaughter Turtle Doves.
4-As the author of this thread who has also studied Icthyology (which I don't know what it has to do with this subject) and at the ripe age of 63, I wish you would do your homework better before posting such threads.

[kafenes]

free_cyprus wrote:

kafenes
So????????? What's that got to do with the price of fish???

is worth more then your brains is worth

free_cyprus, your post are becoming sooooo predictable and boring and childish. I can't be bothered with you, I am sorry.

[BOF]

BOF wrote:

Kafenes i need to put you straight on a few things......
1/ game control in cyprus is so strict i have seen "hunters " on areas signposted as prohibited shooting areas, most signs being shot full of holes anyway. Some of the birds you mention are protected species anyway and it is illegal to shoot them.. and who shot flamingoes on larnaca lake??

1-Just because you saw someone with a camouflage outfit in the fields does not mean they were hunter hunting in restricted area. Did you actually see them shooting birds in a restricted area???? I am sure not!!!
I mentioned 'filikoutouni', explaining to devil the reason why there are getting less (because mainly of the crows). The other two species, 'trigoni and chukor' are not protected species.
2-Yes, shooters are encouraged to shoot the quota of Kangaroos as the damage they do to the farmers and their crops are devastating. I might even add here that they even shoot wild horses and camels from helicopters as they are a great threat to farms as well.
3-Please show me the article (by this eminent birdwatcher) which says Cypriot hunters slaughter Turtle Doves.
4-As the author of this thread who has also studied Icthyology (which I don't know what it has to do with this subject) and at the ripe age of 63, I wish you would do your homework better before posting such threads.

I think i know what a 12 bore shotgun looks like, i have owned a few in my time -
you also mentioned blackbird and thrush..they are protected species.
what about the flamingoes?
If you could also check my original article..i said it was shown on BRITISH T.V. do you watch it?
No mention of the dogs abandoned by hunters??
your reply is selective and somewhat arrogant - i was bought up to respect other peoples point of view. it does not seem that you were.

My homework is done in the wilderness amongst wild animals throughout the world and my age gives me the experience to remember what was once commom and is now rare. mainly due to mans interference.
where have you gained your knowledge kafenes?
If people cannot bring a resoned debate to this forum and have their say without being sneered at then the forum is failing in the very thing it was set up to do.

[free_cyprus]

kafenes
when something is not expedient to you, it becomes boring

[free_cyprus]

never mind birds and doves they shoot anything that moves out in cyprus..... they are trigger happy i think it makes them macho lol