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Postby kafenes » Sun May 06, 2007 10:01 am

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Stop killing birds and other creatures Cypriots ! It is a national shame that such lovely creatures are wiped out for no other reason than the fun of shooting. In my days growing up in Paphos I would shoot birds with my catapults on a daily basis. I was ignorant and wasnt made aware by the then environment , schools , churches , elders etc that such cruelty was unbecoming of a young boy growing up. Now at 61 , in two days time , I sit in my study watching the little birds feeding on my bird feed and derive such immense pleasure. To listen to them singing is pure bliss.


Dear miltiades
I feel the same about not just birds but any living creature. When you were growing up in Paphos, game, which one hunted would probably be the only meat they could afford. I am lucky to have come from a well off family in Larnaca and never deprived of food. Now I live in Paphos and one of my best friends is a man from a nearby village (about the same age as you) and he tells me stories about hunger and the only meat they could afford was the goat they would steal. Tough life.
BTW have a great day on Tuesday!!
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Postby kafenes » Sun May 06, 2007 10:11 am

The game control in Cyprus is very strict, even much stricter then Australia (where they have to shoot 1.5 million kangaroos a year to balance their population). There a designated areas where you can shoot, and in the case of turtle doves, these areas are very limited and very small in size. Turtle doves are not stupid, once a shot is heard they just move to the next area where there are no hunters. I have been hunting them before and through the whole season I would very be lucky to have got 2 or 3 birds. This 'slaughter' rubbish is absolute bullshit made up of people who probably never been in wildlife to even observe any wild game.
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Postby devil » Sun May 06, 2007 10:24 am

We had a pair of turtle doves breeding around here for several years, no longer. But the bird species population here has changed drastically over the last five years, for no apparent reason (no major habitat changes):
Hooded Crow: up from zero to many (probably a major cause of some of the other changes)
Swallow: significant increase
House Sparrow: significant increase
Collared Dove: massive increase
Bee Eater: significant increase (autumn passage)
Chukar: no longer seen (used to have them in the garden!!!)
Cyprus Wheatear: fewer
Masked Shrike: fewer
Kestrel: fewer
Hoopoe: no longer seen/heard
Cuckoo: no longer seen/heard
Scops Owl: heard less frequently

However, these changes are not confined to birds:
Hedgehogs: significant increase
Tree frogs: slight decrease
Green Toad: slight increase
One lizard species: no longer seen (sorry, cannot name it!)
Chameleon: slight increase
Gecko: decrease
"no-see'um": slight decrease (a pestilential, tiny, flesh-coloured biting gnat)
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun May 06, 2007 10:29 am

those feckersssssssssssss they kill anything that moves............ not only that they kill the very spirit of the cypriot spirit to
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun May 06, 2007 10:31 am

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how many registered hunters are in cyprus turksih speaking and greek speaking
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Postby kafenes » Sun May 06, 2007 10:52 am

devil wrote:
We had a pair of turtle doves breeding around here for several years, no longer. But the bird species population here has changed drastically over the last five years, for no apparent reason (no major habitat changes):
Hooded Crow: up from zero to many (probably a major cause of some of the other changes)
Swallow: significant increase
House Sparrow: significant increase
Collared Dove: massive increase
Bee Eater: significant increase (autumn passage)
Chukar: no longer seen (used to have them in the garden!!!)
Cyprus Wheatear: fewer
Masked Shrike: fewer
Kestrel: fewer
Hoopoe: no longer seen/heard
Cuckoo: no longer seen/heard
Scops Owl: heard less frequently


The native doves (filikoutounia) do not migrate. I do still see a lot of them even around the built up areas but the crows tend to eat there eggs so that's why more crows and less doves.
The migrating doves (Trigonia) come twice a year in transit. They shoot them by the thousands in Syria and Egypt as there is no control over them.
I remember when I was a kid, people would kill crows and present the birds heads to the local police station and collect a reward. The same went for wasps as well.(the whole thing, not their heads :D ).

The chukor (perdiki) is the red footed indian partridge which is the most popular game for hunters. They are very strictly controlled and are bred by the thousands every year and released for the hunting purpose. Most are even tagged so that they can keep track of there movements. I feel sorry for these chukors as they are bred in cages and don't have the surviving instincts and they are really being slaughtered.
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Postby miltiades » Sun May 06, 2007 10:54 am

kafenes wrote:miltiades wrote:
Stop killing birds and other creatures Cypriots ! It is a national shame that such lovely creatures are wiped out for no other reason than the fun of shooting. In my days growing up in Paphos I would shoot birds with my catapults on a daily basis. I was ignorant and wasnt made aware by the then environment , schools , churches , elders etc that such cruelty was unbecoming of a young boy growing up. Now at 61 , in two days time , I sit in my study watching the little birds feeding on my bird feed and derive such immense pleasure. To listen to them singing is pure bliss.


Dear miltiades
I feel the same about not just birds but any living creature. When you were growing up in Paphos, game, which one hunted would probably be the only meat they could afford. I am lucky to have come from a well off family in Larnaca and never deprived of food. Now I live in Paphos and one of my best friends is a man from a nearby village (about the same age as you) and he tells me stories about hunger and the only meat they could afford was the goat they would steal. Tough life.
BTW have a great day on Tuesday!!


Thanks for your wishes . It is true that my generation killed birds in order to eat them not necessarily because of hunger but purely you were eating meat in contrast to the staple diet consisting of fasolia , koutsia and revithkia. All of them my favourite foods now .
Another factor was that there wasnt that much to entertain us all those years ago , TV wasnt around , radio was scarce , cinema only in towns , we had Karakiotzis once in a blue moon .I remember my first ever ice cream ! I was just over nine years old , and boy did it taste good. Coca Cola had just arrived and the wafer thin Nestle bars of chocolate were the craze !! And yet they were happy years , simple things gave us tremendous pleasure .Last year I bought my granddaughter , she was 3 years old then , a real dvd that she enjoys watching her cartoons and Disney films. She shuts herself in her bedroom lies in bed eating crisps and watching dvds , She has no need to go hunting birds , besides her parents wouldn't allow it ! How things have changed over the years and yet these wonderful creatures are not appreciated as they ought to.
I spend a lot of time by myself and find such pleasure in watching the birds in my garden, the bloody cats are always around , but they too are wonderful creatures not as good as my 9 year old Boxer dog , Max , that hates cats , as dogs do , and always chases them away from the garden.
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Postby kafenes » Sun May 06, 2007 10:59 am

free_cyprus wrote:
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how many registered hunters are in cyprus turksih speaking and greek speaking


I don't know about the TC hunters but on this side around 70,000 hunters.
Around 10 per cent of the population.
If you're going to come up with the theory of 70,000 registered hunters shooting 3 birds each and so on, please don't bother. There will be an average of 10,000 hunters going for Turtle dove hunting on a Sundayand even less on the Wednesday. Most of them will not even see a Turtle dove let alone have a shot at them.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun May 06, 2007 11:33 am

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10% of the population are registered hunters. i wonder how cyprus hunters rate per capital with other countries regarding registered hunters im sure they will come in the top ten somwhere.............. maybe even in the top five
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Postby kafenes » Sun May 06, 2007 11:48 am

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10% of the population are registered hunters. i wonder how cyprus hunters rate per capital with other countries regarding registered hunters im sure they will come in the top ten somwhere.............. maybe even in the top five


So????????? What's that got to do with the price of fish???
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