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Postby Murataga » Tue May 08, 2007 10:44 pm

The killings came into discussion when you mentioned about the murders of the Turks in Crete as an example to our fate in Cyprus.

You can talk or discuss at whatever tone you wish, doesen`t bother me when it comes from GC fanatics like you. Said it before and will say it again:

Our freedom is everything to us and will live free or die defending it.

Memorize it.
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Postby Murataga » Tue May 08, 2007 10:49 pm

@Kikapu-

Quality of any person or a Nation who can stand tall feeling proud of their own achievements, to be the envy of others, come when the achievements are self made, and not given to them by others.


Yes, just like Makarios invited Greek military to do their dirty work in 1963 and the Greeks getting help from the Russians during their War of Independence right? How tall and proud they must stand…

You are acting like a spoilt child, who was born with a "silver spoon" in his mouth, the way you talk, and Turkey is the one who gave us the "silver spoon".


Our resistance began in 1963 which was way before Turkey engaged in 1974. Yet the Greek military started to pour into the island by the thousands as early as 1964. It was the TCs that resisted ENOSIS of Cyprus. It was the TCs that put up a stiff fight with the National Gurad and EOKA-B for 11 years. It was the TCs that fought in 1974 for their liberation and freedom. It is the TCs that guard TRNC with their military service (of which you probably have no intention of attending) their country to this very day. We the TCs of TRNC are embarking on economic, scientific and military achievements every day despite unfair embargoes. Has/Is Turkey helped/helping us do this? Yes. Our rights having been violated for 44 years with the whole world looking after their interests at the side of GCs, is that help a “silver spoon”? No. If it is, than the illegal GC administration is covered in 24k gold from head to toe with decades of financial aid pouring in from around the world and the military support they received/receive.

I am sorry that you feel and promote that our achievements are insignificant and our freedom and independence is undeserved. The fact is that they are not and have never been. Every step of our struggle in the Cyprus Conflict carries our sweat and blood on it. Turkey makes up for the military strength that we can not. If our passion for our national sovereignty, independence and freedom is a "BRAVADO" and the reason that makes us "look evil", to you, than that is sad. This is not a high school popularity contest, i.e. we can not and will not give up our independence and national sovereignty to look good to the world or to the GCs or to make a marginal fraction of people like you feel better. You and the whole world can kick and scream all you want that our freedom is undeserved or that we are not entitled to our freedom. Know this and anyone who is concerned: our freedom is everything to us; we have fought hard for it and we will either live free or die defending it. Freedom is the noblest and most sacred virtue of our existence.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue May 08, 2007 10:51 pm

askimwos wrote:As for GR who once again posted links to army related sites I cannot but wonder about his age. He seems more like a 13 yo Efen misguided youngster to me than a grown up and level headed individual.


Murataga needed to be reminded that the only reason he is cocky is because he is counting that Turkey will always be there to protect his illegalities and that the RoC hasn't just been sitting around making Lefkara lace.

As for your comments... I'd happily take you on any day and on any subject and you'd soon discover who the 13 year-old really is. Trust me... :)
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 08, 2007 10:58 pm

Everybody can go back and see who threatened whom. You are threatening us with "consequences" if we dare to take back our own land, so don't try to hide behind your finger.

Our freedom is everything to us and will live free or die defending it.

You can live as free as you want, as long as you do not violate our rights and steal our land. Or maybe you think your "freedom" includes that also? I am sorry to inform you, but committing crimes is not your right.

So if you want to be a criminal, be. But don't complain about the consequences.
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Postby Murataga » Tue May 08, 2007 11:23 pm

Cyprus is our`s as much as it is your`s. We will live as free, independent and nationally sovereign TCs in Cyprus.
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue May 08, 2007 11:32 pm

Murataga
what freedom you got in the north? or the south for that matter???/ and you lot are a lot crap. wed ont have freedom in cyprus amigos. we are still slaves to greece and trukey. but you lot are to stupid to realise it
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue May 08, 2007 11:36 pm

i cant believe cyoriots are talking about each other like the way they do in this forum............i was right all along no brains...................all talking shit
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Postby zan » Tue May 08, 2007 11:39 pm

Sotos wrote:If you want to die fighting to steal our country then you will. But I don't know if you will live to see that day because that tumor of yours will come back soon to finish you off you fucking criminal piece of shit. :P You are lucky because dying from cancer will be much more pleasant for you than dying in our hands when we will be liberating our country. ;) Actually dying is anyway better than living the pathetic life of a Turk. :lol:


Go on son...Give it some..... :twisted:
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Postby Murataga » Tue May 08, 2007 11:43 pm

Sotos wrote-

... But I don't know if you will live to see that day because that tumor of yours will come back soon to finish you off you fucking criminal piece of shit. You are lucky because dying from cancer will be much more pleasant for you than dying in our hands when we will be liberating our country...


So touching to see Sotos getting concerned about my cancer 8)
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 08, 2007 11:49 pm

Murataga wrote:Cyprus is our`s as much as it is your`s. We will live as free, independent and nationally sovereign TCs in Cyprus.


Sure, the whole Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots. But on what basis should TCs have separate sovereignty over land that belongs to GCs in its great majority? What makes Kerynia Turkish for example?

The answer is nothing. You have no sovereignty over any separate part of Cyprus. You can't steal our land to create a state. If you want a separate state then go ask Turkey, maybe she will donate you part of Asia Minor, but our land is not for sale and you can only keep it illegally and temporarily under occupation.

So you can not have any state. Your choice is between remaining criminals for as long as you can in a part of Cyprus ruled by the Turkish Army generals (not you) and facing the consequences of your illegal actions, or stop your crimes return our land and accept legality.
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