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Do you hate the NeoCypriots?

Postby Nikephoros » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:35 pm

Come on, just because they are too loud, obnoxious does not mean those wimps are something to be scared of.

Are you sick of them and their unrealistic banter? Do you think that their fake nation, rhetoric aside, does not exist?
Voice your opinion!

Also, if you can tell which political parties produce NeoCypriot propaganda in Cyprus, I would like to know the names.
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:38 pm

well you know what my views are regarding cypriot mentality lol its all over the forum in my posts lol
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Postby Nikephoros » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:40 pm

Free_Cyprus what political parties do you support? What poltiical parties did your parents support? I would like to conduct fieldwork on the NeoCypriots.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue May 01, 2007 12:01 am

Nikephoros,

Why don't you enlighten us as to what these "NeoCypriots" are so that we may evaluate if we're among them and we'll take it from there.

Regards, GR.
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue May 01, 2007 12:42 am

Nikephoros
if your asking me what political party i belong to in cyprus .................the answer is simple the one that speaks for cypriots. turkish speaking and greek speaking
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Postby Strahd » Tue May 01, 2007 1:43 pm

Get Real! wrote:Nikephoros,

Why don't you enlighten us as to what these "NeoCypriots" are so that we may evaluate if we're among them and we'll take it from there.

Regards, GR.


The most methodical formulation of the Cypriotist ideology that developed in the first post-1974 years was provided by the New Cyprus Association, an organization which was founded in March 1975, with the aim of promoting and safeguarding Cypriot independence. The Association's founding was an explicit reaction to the events of 1974, an attempt to create an atmosphere in which the mistakes that led to 1974 could not possibly be repeated. The Neocypriots proclaimed that it was high time to formulate 'the lessons that must be drawn out of the fires of Pentadaktylos', referring to the northern mountain range of Cyprus which was the site of intense fighting during the Turkish invasion (The New Cyprus Association 1975). The prevailing mood of the people who set up the Association becomes deal in their official Declaration:

Now that the tears are dry, now that the anger and despair have gone we must think: We have been happy, we have been honest, tolerant and liberal. We had been leading a serene and carefree existence and we were silent. Now we are paying for our silence. We, the silent majority. must search our mind and our conscience so that we can realize the sudden awakening of the seven days. Our children and the coming generations expect us to act so that they will not find themselves in the same position as ours (The New Cyprus Association, 1975).

Given the division of the island in 1974 - and its undeniable connection to Greek-Cypriot nationalism - it is probably true that in the immediate post-1974 years the New Cyprus Association indeed expressed the prevailing Greek-Cypriot sentiments. The Association's foremost political priority was to ensure that this 'majority' was never again to remain silent, as it had remained when the Republic of Cyprus was being under mined by nationalist extremists and the Greek junta.

The New Cyprus Association (1975) had no intention to 'deny ethnic origins and cultural links' and made it clear that 'we cannot forget our national descent'. It stressed, however, that the inhabitants of Cyprus 'must as a people consider themselves as Cypriots first and foremost and then as Greeks, Turks, or others'. And this, precisely because 'the most significant cause of our present predicament is that the two major communities were living in air-tight separateness without contact and with the wrong conceptions about each other - and that a significant cause for this has been the separate orientations and organization of Cyprus society, and the wrong slogans'. For the Neocypriots,

the danger of the partition of Cyprus or the dissolution of our state ii imminent and the responsibility for preventing this belongs mainly to us the Cypriots and no country outside Cyprus can help effectively either because it has not the power or because its interests are not always identified with ours.

In the Association's view, ethnic separation must be overcome through 'the rapprochement and continuous cultivation of understanding between the two communities so that our common features will be fully realized and emphasized and our differences confined and alleviated' (The New Cyprus Association, 1975).

Despite the small size of the Association, the Neocypriots played a prominent role in pressuring the official Greek-Cypriot leadership to denationalize the Republic of Cyprus and to assume an explicit policy of independence (Peristianis 1995). Its members were mostly intellectuals and professionals from the educated elite of the island, especially those who had studied in Europe or North America. It is interesting to note that people who belong to the Association are eager to confess that the fact that they received their education in countries other than Greece has changed their perspective considerably, enabling them to understand the importance of interethnic communication in a multicultural society. It must, of course, be pointed out that this mostly Anglo-Saxon-educated elite has definite vested interests in Cypriot independence and especially the state apparatus that developed after 1960 out of the British colonial administrative structures.

Whereas the members of the Association were drawn mostly from the broader political left and centre, the organization made a conscious effort to stay above party politics. It presented itself not as a new political party, but, rather, as a pressure group intending to gain support from a broad ideological spectrum, excluding, of course, the radical nationalist elements. The Association was relatively successful in keeping a distance from all political parties, thus managing to attract people who belonged to the traditional right. Given that the Greek-Cypriot disaster of 1974 was also a failure of democracy, the Association stressed the importance of safeguarding the democratic process. The adoption of democratic principles in all aspects of our political life and the strict adherence to them', it is stated in the Association's official declaration (1975), 'is an indispensable prerequisite for the correct evolution of our society'.
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Postby pappy_sydney » Tue May 01, 2007 3:56 pm

Yeah the NeoCypriots remind me of the old Yugoslav or Soviet peoples, look what happened to them? Anyone who promotes the fake cypriot ethnicity and denies they are greek is a neo-cypriot, they have forgotten their own identity in the false hope that this will lead to peace in cyprus or are just too stupid or uneducated to know the history and politics of their own people.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue May 01, 2007 3:57 pm

ditto! :lol:
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Postby Simon » Tue May 01, 2007 4:21 pm

I agree Pappy and have been saying this for a long time. You never know, maybe the Turkish Cypriots and Turkish settlers will finally agree with the neo-Cypriots and call their 'state' the 'Cypriot Republic of Northern Cyprus.' :roll:

S - (that's for Shah btw) :lol:
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Postby free_cyprus » Tue May 01, 2007 4:22 pm

pappy_sydney
you wrote
cypriot ethnicity and denies they are greek is a neo-cypriot, they have forgotten their own identity in the false hope that this will lead to peace in cyprus or are just too stupid or uneducated to know the history and politics of their own people.

the worse think about cyprus and their thinkign........... is the fact that they actualy believe they are greeks and turks...............................and thats where the uneducation comes into play..................we have been invaded and rule no less then 17 times in history and ruled for amny years by each long before crist was born and you are actualy telling me we are greeks and turks.....................to you we might be. for me i dont believe that at all and i will never say im greek or turkish we are former slaves on the brink of independence. one of a few isands in the world who are still slaves....................and you and your kind of thinking keeps us as slaves
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