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[miltiades]

So what business were you in in the UK , Fish and Chips or garments ,Tell us.

[free_cyprus]

miltiades
i was in the mandra business

[growuptcs]

freecyprus wrote:

but heres an oppertunity for you to put me right here and now perhaps you can show me one multi milionair who has doen something for cyprus people............not greeks or turks but cyprus people

This is why your under an embargo in your melodramatic world. The multi-millionaires from both sides of course dont help the Cypriot people with their OWN money, because thats what money is all about. I'll explain the reason why...To have money and maintain having money is called having guts and money and taking a shot with it. The so called multi-millionaires that you talk about from both sides that I'm speaking about, left the Island years ago with nothing with an ambition of living a much better life for themselves and their IMMIDIATE family. Not for their cousins, their neighbors or childhood friends. If you had any ambitions like that and go through with what they went through, you wouldn't be asking for handouts. Only the strong willed people make it themselves. You obviously never shared conversations with people who MADE IT themselves. SO, anyway, the TC's that did leave the island years ago and that are well off now, what have they offered you? Someone who gives you an opportunity to make a good living and you refuse because you dont want to work day in and day out, is whose fault? You just think the GC's that left Cyprus with NOTHING that made successfull lives are the enemy. Just sitting there in life counting everyone elses money instead of making it yourself and pointing the finger at them how bad of people they are is just plain pathetic. A true man blames everything on himself, and solves problems instead of bickering about them. I think I know what category to place you in by now.

[free_cyprus]

growuptcs
your sooo incredibly intelligent that what i have said went over your head all together............... thats where we differ..........i asked a simple question what has any of them done for cypriot community as a whole and i can tell you this they done fuck all......................who shall i mention here chris lizaris kell sukri these two reside in england and they both entertain the cypriot presidents when they come to england one turkish speaking and one greek speakign i know them well personaly................secondly every milianair in the uk greek speakign and turkish speakign they have a polecy to devide our cypriot people............ thats another thing i was talking about.....................you are going to tell me about guts.......................i ahve more guts they you can ever imagine why do you thin i do not join the cypriots that are greeks and turks.....................simpel i think for myself...............i do not take sides and please when it comes to goal setting goal achieving i got licance to teach the fecking stuff soo please dont insult me......................... i asked you to show me one person greek speakign or turkish speakign that has done something for cyprus people without takign sides im askign you to name me one person not two just the one will do............................the combined wealth of turkish and greek speakign people in the u k alone is worth 15 to 20 billion can you name me one person whats done somethign to harmonise the cypriot community........................i dont want anythign from them i dont need anything from them even though they tryed to buy me they couldnt ..........................i m waiting for an answer so youc an name me one person

[free_cyprus]

sorry for the spelling i wanted to reply quicky but you can read it alright

[growuptcs]

free_cyprus, the reason why no-one does give a F is not because they want to divide Cyprus like most think, its because they made their millions elsewhere and thats where they will continue living a good life. Most of them have a second home in Cyprus but their way of life now is elsewhere. How do you expect anyone to step in and harmonize the Cyprus cause without being a target if they live a good life elsewhere? You can't just yell at why no one has done anything for all these years. What do you honestly expect from anyone to step in and propose after holding peoples land hostage? No one rightfully has the right to negotiate terms of land they do not own. Your just expecting an under the table deal like the TRNC in front of the worlds eyes. If we dont agree for it, you can't just force it down our throats. Any ideas to make this negotiation a 50-50 balance? I have plenty of ideas but I feel like they'll fall on deaf ears because your minds made up already.

[BirKibrisli]

free_cyprus,...

You said one thing in one of your posts above which has made me your friend forever...Wheter you like it or not...

You said "Cyprus is my motherland,I have no other..." or words to that effect...That is exactly how I feel.And the reason why most Cypriots do FA to help things in Cyprus is as growuptcs said,they have built their lives elsewhere,and they have shifted their aliagences to their new country...I would also say because they have lost any hope that anything sensible can ever be achieved while most Cypriots believe they are more Turkish or Greek than Cypriots...But your tactic of calling everyone"stupid" if they have not shown your degree of matureness as a Cypriot does nothing to advance your cause...There is a book called How to win Friends and Influence People...I bet you anything you have read that book ages ago and dismissed it as garbage...Go back and read it again now,then send me a PM...We can then put our skills,ideas and resources together to help advance our cause...CYPRUS,one country,one nation,one people,multilingual and multireligious...Show me and everyone here you are not just talk...Walk the talk and get in touch...

[free_cyprus]

Birkibrisli
the book how to win friends and influence people is by dale carnagie and its a brilliant book and i have read it many many years ago.........................regarding growuptcs and his reply to me he still hanst answered my question and my question is simple what have the rich cypriots done that has benefited turkish speaking and greek speaking people i m looking for one single they done.......................can i find a single thing no................. and it has nothign to do with them having lives somewhere else. they spend more in a casino in a night then most working people earn in a year..........................what i was asking was is there turkish speakign or greek speaking millinair anywhere where they open a community centre or a theatre group or an old peoples community centre where it was designed for both turkish speaking and greek speaking cypriots and the answer is nooooooooooooooooooooo. when i talk about the millionairs and i say they practice devide and rule our community im speaking from experiance not something from the top of my head........... i have witnessed these things first hand with turkish speaking and greek speaking cypriots..................

[growuptcs]

Im not avoiding your question free_cyprus, I'm just not going to criticize anyone who hasn't invested in Cyprus to benefit Cypriots. Would you invest in the GAZA strip if you lived over there at one time? It's just wiser not too. I see where your coming from though. I can almost guarantee you if we ever do have a peace deal, these things will happen that you speak about. Did you ever think that anyone would invest there money in a war torn country? I hope not, because I don't see where your going with this.

[free_cyprus]

growuptcs
i never said invest in cyprus how about london can you show me one person who has done something to benefit both communities.......................the answer is none..........when i speak i speack for both communities i dont take sides i make comments on my own epxperiance reagrding my people of cyprus