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[zan]

Just a word in your ear Sahin Turk. This is all Piratis has. This last post is it. He will repeat it many many times and thinks that that way it makes what he says right.

Actually Zan Sahins initial points that Piratis has answered to are complete crap...even you must admit that. 2 nations joined in 1960? Resolutions calling for union with Greece after 1960?

How would you word it DT.

I think you'll find they were communities not nations. Zan.

Being a little pedantic there DT. The point is that they were of equal status.

[free_cyprus]

Piratis
there is no nounding of cyprus by turkey and greece and you talk about the constitution it was a sham and it is a sham today and it will be tommorow as long as they are involved and as long as we keep that stupid constitution...............................everything for greece turkey and britain.............. and nothingg for the cypriot people in that soo called constetution you speak of its more like a constipation then a constitution

[BirKibrisli]

All people who live in Turkey and are Turkish citizens are Turkish...This is even spelled out in Turkey's constitution...So Sahin Turk...taking a leaf out of the constitution of your "motherland" (I am assuming you were born in Turkey! ) All people who live in Cyprus and are citizens of Cyprus are Cypriots...Which part of that don't you understand???

[Kifeas]

You will find the anwer you want, once you define to us what an American is, what an Australian is, what a Canadian is, what a south African is, what a British is, and finally (here is the tricky part for you,) what a Turk is!

If it were only that simple; life is seldom simply black or white. The Americans have fought a civil war this still has its mark on the psyche of those who were either a part of the "union" or the confederacy, and while Americans are patriotic, the U.S. is a far cry from what can be considered a nation-state. As for Canada, are the Quebecqois Canadian? Maybe to some, but not to others. Australia - a country with a many white racists that live under the facade of Canadianesque multicultural society, but are fry cry from being a tolerant society that is open to diverse cultures and norms.

Your response tries to blur the lines between civic identity and national/ethnic identity.

I know what it means to be a Turk, because I am one ... now do me a favour and answer my question. I have yet to read any respectable literature about Cyprus or the Cyprus problem that refers to the "Cypriot people" ... Cyprus is consistently described as an island (sometimes state) with two (founding) peoples: Turks and Greeks.

Amazing!

I mean, I can very easily ruin every single word and sentence that you wrote above, however, I feel it is completely pointless to waste any time doing so.

I can only say one thing, after what I have read above! Simply, that you are diluted beyond salvation!

[Sahin Turk]

Sahin Turk
soo you think the zurich agreement was right and just then is that what your telling

It was agreed to, accepted, and signed by all parties. There were guarantees for everyone and things would not be where they are today if the agreements were adhered to and fully implemented.

[Sahin Turk]

and your refering me to united crooks called the united nations to do research about cyprus jeeeeeeeeeeeeee you must have bumped your today when you woke up mr Sahin Turk . first you say you are from cyprus and they you say your a turk..........................is it possible that you just speak turkish and that your not turkey even though you cplaim it so your DNA might say otherwise as it would im sure with the rest of cyprus people who think they are greeks and turks

If you want me to take you seriously, don't speak / write in an insulting manner.

Yes I am a Turk and yes I was born in Kibris. In case you have not noticed, Cyprus has two dominant peoples, I am from the island's Turkish constituency. Get use to it because we, the Turks of Cyprus, are rightfully here to stay.

The Original Republic of Cyprus was established as a bi-communal state --- the Turks and Greeks were and are to be equals. Deal with it.

[Sahin Turk]

marikkou said
THE MAJORITY OF CYPRIOTS NEVER WANTED UNION WITH GREECE!

that is a very wrong statement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whatever the current realities are on cyprus with most knowing the way forward is to not want enosis with greece, most cypriots did want union with greece for obvious reasons in the past, that is we are greek!!!!!!!!

Thank you ... At least somebody is being honest.

[Sahin Turk]

I think you'll find they were communities not nations. Zan.

I have to disagree ... we, Turks, are a part of the Turkish nation and the Greeks of Cyprus are a part of the Greek nation. That's not a trick question or a statement - it's fact.

[Sahin Turk]

All people who live in Turkey and are Turkish citizens are Turkish...This is even spelled out in Turkey's constitution...So Sahin Turk...taking a leaf out of the constitution of your "motherland" (I am assuming you were born in Turkey! ) All people who live in Cyprus and are citizens of Cyprus are Cypriots...Which part of that don't you understand???

As I am a citizen of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus ... It is safe to say that I am Turk.

[Sahin Turk]

Amazing!

I mean, I can very easily ruin every single word and sentence that you wrote above, however, I feel it is completely pointless to waste any time doing so.

I can only say one thing, after what I have read above! Simply, that you are diluted beyond salvation!

Humour me then, you haven't written anything that make sense yet. Are you going to start now?