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[Kikapu]

I saw only hand full of soldiers in the RoC, and they were mostly manning the checkpoints.

Ever thought they were well hidden? they must have the 12.000 soldiers placed somewhere and the 100.000+ armed reservists on call.

Yes VP, they had heard that a TC was coming to visit the RoC, therefore they all hid from me, as not to disrupt my travels, and write negative things about them, in my Cyprus report.

I'm not saying they don't exists, you just don't see any soldiers anywhere, other than at check points.

You have in fact reminded me, asking this question to my girlfriend, regarding soldiers. I told her, that it seemed funny, to know there were 40,000 Turkish Troops in the "TRNC", ready to "defend" the inhabitants there, but I did not see any threat from this end (RoC) at this moment standing looking across to Famagusta. There was no sense of "going to war" readiness at a moments notice, because the lack of RoC soldiers anywhere to be seen.

How silly, because you can not see them and the GCs do a good job of concealing there whereabouts doesnt mean they are not there and do not pose a threat, please burying your head in the sand for the sake of your GC brothers is making you look what you are a one sided GC fool with no real understanding of the TCs. Your agenda to ridicule and defame and demote the TC viewpoint and cause is obvious for all to see.

I was making an observation you fool, and not a statement of the reality.

I hope you can tell the difference.

[Kikapu]

Lena you are being silly now how can I just turn up in the south and prove who I am by showing my passsport or id card, they would still say I work for TRNC government and take the piss. Kikapolous coming north would have allowed me to show him my work place, introduce him to my work colleagues, my family and friends and proved once and for all that they have been so stupid about accusing me of things I have nothing to do with, but of course this would not serve their purpose of discrediting me and my viewpoint.

You are the biggest BS man here VP. You may want to mislead those who does not read your or my every post in the Forum, and why should they, but for you to take advantage of their innocence, should bring shame upon on yourself. But of course I understand how you propagandist work. When confronted with an accusation, first thing to do is Deny, Deny, Deny and Deny until the corner you paint yourself into gets smaller and smaller. Then you start to change the story a little and a bit more and a bit more, hoping all the while, for the whole initial question to go away.

The story you have painted above sounds all very logical. The only problem you have failed to mention is, that I never accused you of being Multiple VP's or work for the Government before I went to visit Cyprus last month. So how can you make your claims, that you could not prove anything to me, just by coming to the RoC to meet with me. Besides, you wanted me to prove to you, that I was a TC and not the other way around, for you to prove to me, as to who you were. Your logic to meet first in the "TRNC" then you would come to the RoC had raised a lot of RED FLAGS for me, of your intentions. Also lets not forget, that after I asked to meet with you in the RoC, the first person to object to this idea was not you, but your "Partner in Crime" Zan. He was online as soon as I posted my question to you, when he warned you with these words "under no circumstances you should go to the South". It seemed to me, he had major concerns for you.

Just what were those concerns VP.??

Can you tell everyone what you were exactly accusing me of?

Oh please, lets hear your version first, because I know it will be far away from the truth.

I'll mark your post for you. If you tell the truth, you will get good marks.

[Viewpoint]

Lena you are being silly now how can I just turn up in the south and prove who I am by showing my passsport or id card, they would still say I work for TRNC government and take the piss. Kikapolous coming north would have allowed me to show him my work place, introduce him to my work colleagues, my family and friends and proved once and for all that they have been so stupid about accusing me of things I have nothing to do with, but of course this would not serve their purpose of discrediting me and my viewpoint.

You are the biggest BS man here VP. You may want to mislead those who does not read your or my every post in the Forum, and why should they, but for you to take advantage of their innocence, should bring shame upon on yourself. But of course I understand how you propagandist work. When confronted with an accusation, first thing to do is Deny, Deny, Deny and Deny until the corner you paint yourself into gets smaller and smaller. Then you start to change the story a little and a bit more and a bit more, hoping all the while, for the whole initial question to go away.

The story you have painted above sounds all very logical. The only problem you have failed to mention is, that I never accused you of being Multiple VP's or work for the Government before I went to visit Cyprus last month. So how can you make your claims, that you could not prove anything to me, just by coming to the RoC to meet with me. Besides, you wanted me to prove to you, that I was a TC and not the other way around, for you to prove to me, as to who you were. Your logic to meet first in the "TRNC" then you would come to the RoC had raised a lot of RED FLAGS for me, of your intentions. Also lets not forget, that after I asked to meet with you in the RoC, the first person to object to this idea was not you, but your "Partner in Crime" Zan. He was online as soon as I posted my question to you, when he warned you with these words "under no circumstances you should go to the South". It seemed to me, he had major concerns for you.

Just what were those concerns VP.??

Can you tell everyone what you were exactly accusing me of?

Oh please, lets hear your version first, because I know it will be far away from the truth.

I'll mark your post for you. If you tell the truth, you will get good marks.

You cant even answer a simple question about the bullshit you posted on this forum, how pathetic.

[Kikapu]

Lena you are being silly now how can I just turn up in the south and prove who I am by showing my passsport or id card, they would still say I work for TRNC government and take the piss. Kikapolous coming north would have allowed me to show him my work place, introduce him to my work colleagues, my family and friends and proved once and for all that they have been so stupid about accusing me of things I have nothing to do with, but of course this would not serve their purpose of discrediting me and my viewpoint.

You are the biggest BS man here VP. You may want to mislead those who does not read your or my every post in the Forum, and why should they, but for you to take advantage of their innocence, should bring shame upon on yourself. But of course I understand how you propagandist work. When confronted with an accusation, first thing to do is Deny, Deny, Deny and Deny until the corner you paint yourself into gets smaller and smaller. Then you start to change the story a little and a bit more and a bit more, hoping all the while, for the whole initial question to go away.

The story you have painted above sounds all very logical. The only problem you have failed to mention is, that I never accused you of being Multiple VP's or work for the Government before I went to visit Cyprus last month. So how can you make your claims, that you could not prove anything to me, just by coming to the RoC to meet with me. Besides, you wanted me to prove to you, that I was a TC and not the other way around, for you to prove to me, as to who you were. Your logic to meet first in the "TRNC" then you would come to the RoC had raised a lot of RED FLAGS for me, of your intentions. Also lets not forget, that after I asked to meet with you in the RoC, the first person to object to this idea was not you, but your "Partner in Crime" Zan. He was online as soon as I posted my question to you, when he warned you with these words "under no circumstances you should go to the South". It seemed to me, he had major concerns for you.

Just what were those concerns VP.??

Can you tell everyone what you were exactly accusing me of?

Oh please, lets hear your version first, because I know it will be far away from the truth.

I'll mark your post for you. If you tell the truth, you will get good marks.

You cant even answer a simple question about the bullshit you posted on this forum, how pathetic.

Now that you have admitted to all that Bull you told Lena about not wanting to come to the RoC to meet with me, now you want to change your story but can't remember what they were, so you do not want to get caught in a lie again, so you want me to go first, because I have a very good memory.

Sorry pal, but tell us your version first. I promise to be fair with you, and tell everyone what is correct and what is not in your answer..

[Kikapu]

Excellent reporting Kikapu. You must have been an award winning journalist in a previous life! I know your parents' village. In fact I have a very good friend from there, his name is Hasan (about 65 years old) and he has two children, Husein and a girl who got married recently. Hasan lost two brothers in 1964. They were just kids and the police took them into (protective!) custody. They were never seen since.

I wish I knew you were coming, we could have met.

Bananiot,

I have finally asked my mother if she knew the people you have mentioned above, but unfortunately, she did not know them. I'm not surprised really, because my mother left her village in 1950, after getting married to my father, and moved to Nicosia. I'm sure my Grandparents would have known them very well, but they have passed away, in the late 1960's.

Perhaps if you knew Hasan's parents name, my mother may know them.

[Viewpoint]

Lena you are being silly now how can I just turn up in the south and prove who I am by showing my passsport or id card, they would still say I work for TRNC government and take the piss. Kikapolous coming north would have allowed me to show him my work place, introduce him to my work colleagues, my family and friends and proved once and for all that they have been so stupid about accusing me of things I have nothing to do with, but of course this would not serve their purpose of discrediting me and my viewpoint.

You are the biggest BS man here VP. You may want to mislead those who does not read your or my every post in the Forum, and why should they, but for you to take advantage of their innocence, should bring shame upon on yourself. But of course I understand how you propagandist work. When confronted with an accusation, first thing to do is Deny, Deny, Deny and Deny until the corner you paint yourself into gets smaller and smaller. Then you start to change the story a little and a bit more and a bit more, hoping all the while, for the whole initial question to go away.

The story you have painted above sounds all very logical. The only problem you have failed to mention is, that I never accused you of being Multiple VP's or work for the Government before I went to visit Cyprus last month. So how can you make your claims, that you could not prove anything to me, just by coming to the RoC to meet with me. Besides, you wanted me to prove to you, that I was a TC and not the other way around, for you to prove to me, as to who you were. Your logic to meet first in the "TRNC" then you would come to the RoC had raised a lot of RED FLAGS for me, of your intentions. Also lets not forget, that after I asked to meet with you in the RoC, the first person to object to this idea was not you, but your "Partner in Crime" Zan. He was online as soon as I posted my question to you, when he warned you with these words "under no circumstances you should go to the South". It seemed to me, he had major concerns for you.

Just what were those concerns VP.??

Can you tell everyone what you were exactly accusing me of?

Oh please, lets hear your version first, because I know it will be far away from the truth.

I'll mark your post for you. If you tell the truth, you will get good marks.

You cant even answer a simple question about the bullshit you posted on this forum, how pathetic.

Now that you have admitted to all that Bull you told Lena about not wanting to come to the RoC to meet with me, now you want to change your story but can't remember what they were, so you do not want to get caught in a lie again, so you want me to go first, because I have a very good memory.

Sorry pal, but tell us your version first. I promise to be fair with you, and tell everyone what is correct and what is not in your answer..

How childish, im not responding again until you remind everyone what you accused me of and why you apologised admitting what an idiot you had been.

[BirKibrisli]

Kikapu...I think you did the right thing in not going to the North.
Anyone who has a free spirit,whose hairs stands up at the sight of soldiers and military bases and "Askeri Bolge...Girmek Yasaktir" signs (Military area...Forbidden to enter!),and who is used to getting things done without fuss and with due respect,would feel terribly uncomfortable in the Trnc...I am speaking from experience...

I do not regret making the decision by not going to the "TRNC" under the conditions that I found myself in. I do however regret not being able to go, and visit all of Cyprus.

If and when the conditions change on the ground, I will most certainly pay a visit, to see the rest of my country.

Next time I will come with you,and we will make a documentary in the North...Just don't let VPs hear of this...We will both end up in the military for life...

[Kikapu]

How childish, im not responding again until you remind everyone what you accused me of and why you apologised admitting what an idiot you had been.

Yes, I have apologised to you for my bad language and insults from our recent past arguments, which no person deserves and that you were a Human being after all, and a fellow TC Cypriot.

I did not get an apology from you however, and you still continue with your arrogance.

I guess we all know who has the better character between the two of us.

Oh I know, you have said, that I had a good character for admitting and apologizing for my behavior.

We are all still waiting for you to "rise to the occasion" also, but instead, you want to have your 15th Century mentality with vulgarity, as a hateful and mean spirited person.

Did I forget anything VP.

Oh yes, I remember, I accused you of being a Turk, but the apology was not for that, because you actually would love to be a Turk, instead of being a silly Cypriot, who has lost his Cypriot identity long ago.

I think that just about covers everything.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu...I think you did the right thing in not going to the North.
Anyone who has a free spirit,whose hairs stands up at the sight of soldiers and military bases and "Askeri Bolge...Girmek Yasaktir" signs (Military area...Forbidden to enter!),and who is used to getting things done without fuss and with due respect,would feel terribly uncomfortable in the Trnc...I am speaking from experience...

I do not regret making the decision by not going to the "TRNC" under the conditions that I found myself in. I do however regret not being able to go, and visit all of Cyprus.

If and when the conditions change on the ground, I will most certainly pay a visit, to see the rest of my country.

Next time I will come with you,and we will make a documentary in the North...Just don't let VPs hear of this...We will both end up in the military for life...

Trust me Bir, all our information is posted on the wall of the "Asal Sube". The moment we walk in, they will know who we are.

A Yank and a Aussie.

You being a little bit older, would be sent to work in the kitchen.

As for me, it will be the latrines.

Today's "TRNC" Military Training.

I also heard, that we may also be asked to pick up butts.

I was actually excited about this. Finally we get to pick up Girls, but they actually meant picking up cigarette butts, of the ground.

Probably the one's VP throws away.

[BirKibrisli]

Kikapu...I think you did the right thing in not going to the North.
Anyone who has a free spirit,whose hairs stands up at the sight of soldiers and military bases and "Askeri Bolge...Girmek Yasaktir" signs (Military area...Forbidden to enter!),and who is used to getting things done without fuss and with due respect,would feel terribly uncomfortable in the Trnc...I am speaking from experience...

I do not regret making the decision by not going to the "TRNC" under the conditions that I found myself in. I do however regret not being able to go, and visit all of Cyprus.

If and when the conditions change on the ground, I will most certainly pay a visit, to see the rest of my country.

Next time I will come with you,and we will make a documentary in the North...Just don't let VPs hear of this...We will both end up in the military for life...

Trust me Bir, all our information is posted on the wall of the "Asal Sube". The moment we walk in, they will know who we are.

A Yank and a Aussie.

You being a little bit older, would be sent to work in the kitchen.

As for me, it will be the latrines.

Today's "TRNC" Military Training.

I also heard, that we may also be asked to pick up butts.

I was actually excited about this. Finally we get to pick up Girls, but they actually meant picking up cigarette butts, of the ground.

Probably the one's VP throws away.

As long as we are not asked to pick up fags,it'll be apples,mate...