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[Sunshine01]

Kilapu

I just want to say how much I have enjoyed reading about your trip to Cyprus, it was very moving.

[karma]

Oh Birkibrisli have you two caught the infectious disease from the greek speaking cypriots called "anti-trnc"?

You know what we say,dear humanist...Uzum uzume baka baka kararir (Grapes go darker in colour by looking at other grapes...)It loses a bit in the translation but you get my drift...

or

''korle yatan sasi kalkar''

[BirKibrisli]

Oh Birkibrisli have you two caught the infectious disease from the greek speaking cypriots called "anti-trnc"?

You know what we say,dear humanist...Uzum uzume baka baka kararir (Grapes go darker in colour by looking at other grapes...)It loses a bit in the translation but you get my drift...

or

''korle yatan sasi kalkar''

Originally I was going to say "If you go to bed with dogs,you get fleas..."
or whatever ...but I didn't want to offend anyone...

[zan]

I suppose, as you girls are not respecting the fact that I said that We should let this dog die (Kikapu) then I can break my promise with impunity.


"RoC".

Corrupt President TPap. Bigtime crook.
Drugs epidemic.
Illegal hotels springing up every where to replace the old illegal ones.

And much much more that you can be sure that I will give you an update on when I get them, and you laugh at the TRNC/KKTC. We seem to know no better in your eyes. What is your excuse? You have recruited two honorary GCs to your ranks but we out trump you with Fanos. We also have the right thinking GCs on our side whom I will not drag into again. Well not quite on our side but on the side of what is right. They see our mistakes but what is more important is that they see yours and see that you ain’t so sweet. You can giggle like little girls all you like in your little self-gratifying group but the tears will soon follow. I promise I will not laugh. You have my word on that.

[Kikapu]

He proved a lovable person and love was what he received by everyone even from a lady bureaucrat at a government office. Damn Kikapu, I felt jealous of how she treated you so favourably. The last time I was there, I spent 3 days!


You paid absolutely no attention to the numerous efforts and research Kikapu has done and HIS CLEAR INTENTION to visit is own community at the occupied as well, if that were possible. Yet it proved that the odds would be he would be in trouble regarding the military service. This is the ONLY reason he hasn't crossed. And don't tell me he was wrong in his decision.

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Pyro,

Didn't anybody tell you, that if you wanted anything done at the Land Registry Department that would usually take 3 days, to come and see me, to get it done in 2 hours.

Dealing with this lady bureaucrat was the highlight of my trip, as far as interacting with GC's. If my girlfriend wasn't with me, I would have thought to myself..."OK, so she is being very nice to me, so what does she expect in return", but obviously nothing. Even after visiting her twice, and spending almost 2 hours of her time with me, she still gave me her office number, to call from Switzerland, if I had further questions.

On the military issue. I kept telling VP, but he does not want to believe my dilemma. There were one or two other issues I had concerns about going to the "TRNC", but unless the military service question was put to rest, other issues would have only made it worse for me.

A year ago, I contacted a politician in the "TRNC" about the same military service question. I have a letter in front of me from this politician, telling me to cancel my travel plans to the "TRNC", until the military service question was settled, before coming. This was last year, 2006, so we went to Spain instead. As far as I'm concerned, those same questions, have not been answered fully, so you are right, I was not going to walk into a "Hornets Nest".

Thanks for answering the sailboat questions for me. All those favourable sailing days, and yet all the boats were tied up in the Marinas. I guess the owners haven't started coming over yet, from abroad.

Here is another question that is open to everyone.

Hotel prices were not too bad. On the average, we paid around £50 CP per night/per room with breakfast for two. All hotels on the coast at 4 star, but not all with direct sea view. Nicosia did not have any sea view.

Most expensive Hotels were in Nicosia and Agia Napa. But to our surprise, least expensive food was in Agia Napa by almost 25%, for the same food, than elsewhere. All other places, were more or less the same. Meat and Fish Mezes were £10-12 everywhere. That was the only constant price we had found.

Can someone explain to me, why were the hotel prices high, but yet, food prices were lower in Agia Napa.? I saw a lot of restaurants that were not open for the season yet, so the business was down, but unless they raise the Menu prices higher in the peak season, it was cheaper. We found the food prices overall same as in Switzerland, which means high for Cypriot standards, but we got a hell of a lot more food in Cyprus, than we would here, for the same price.

I got a feeling, tourist do not pay much attention to the "strength" of the Cyprus Pound. It only appears cheap at first but it actually is not, because of the small ££££ numbers. I wonder if the restaurants will be able to get people in to eat, when they convert to the EURO, when they show £10 Cyprus Pounds now, will be showing around 20 Euros. It might make a difference in the minds of the customers.

[Kikapu]

Kilapu

I just want to say how much I have enjoyed reading about your trip to Cyprus, it was very moving.

Happy to hear that Sunshine01.

Are you a Cypriot by any chance.?

If not, have you travelled to Cyprus.?

I was not trying to write a Guide Book, but if anyone has not been to Cyprus, and you have two weeks there, you can easily adopt our trip to give you some ideas what you can see and do, in the same time period in a leisurely fashion. Only if you don't want to spend all your time by the pool, all day long. You will even have time to visit the "North" also, but can't take a rental car there. If you do, you will forfeit you original insurance, and if anything happens to the car, the rental company has your credit card number. They will just bill you for a new car.!!

[Kikapu]

I suppose, as you girls are not respecting the fact that I said that We should let this dog die (Kikapu) then I can break my promise with impunity.


"RoC".

Corrupt President TPap. Bigtime crook.
Drugs epidemic.
Illegal hotels springing up every where to replace the old illegal ones.

And much much more that you can be sure that I will give you an update on when I get them, and you laugh at the TRNC/KKTC. We seem to know no better in your eyes. What is your excuse? You have recruited two honorary GCs to your ranks but we out trump you with Fanos. We also have the right thinking GCs on our side whom I will not drag into again. Well not quite on our side but on the side of what is right. They see our mistakes but what is more important is that they see yours and see that you ain’t so sweet. You can giggle like little girls all you like in your little self-gratifying group but the tears will soon follow. I promise I will not laugh. You have my word on that.

Hello Zan,

May I ask why should this dog (thread) die. Is it because, you have said so. On what grounds, do you want this thread to die. Don't you think it is informative to TC's and GC's. Or do you want this thread to disappear into the "Cyber Space" and forgotten. Is this thread really that troublesome to the P & P Department, or what.?

As far as I know, nobody attacked Fanos for living in the "TRNC", which he very much likes. He was attacked only where and to whom he worked for. I told Fanos to live and work where ever he wished to do so, but to expect criticism to whom he worked for.

[zan]

I suppose, as you girls are not respecting the fact that I said that We should let this dog die (Kikapu) then I can break my promise with impunity.


"RoC".

Corrupt President TPap. Bigtime crook.
Drugs epidemic.
Illegal hotels springing up every where to replace the old illegal ones.

And much much more that you can be sure that I will give you an update on when I get them, and you laugh at the TRNC/KKTC. We seem to know no better in your eyes. What is your excuse? You have recruited two honorary GCs to your ranks but we out trump you with Fanos. We also have the right thinking GCs on our side whom I will not drag into again. Well not quite on our side but on the side of what is right. They see our mistakes but what is more important is that they see yours and see that you ain’t so sweet. You can giggle like little girls all you like in your little self-gratifying group but the tears will soon follow. I promise I will not laugh. You have my word on that.

Hello Zan,

May I ask why should this dog (thread) die. Is it because, you have said so. On what grounds, do you want this thread to die. Don't you think it is informative to TC's and GC's. Or do you want this thread to disappear into the "Cyber Space" and forgotten. Is this thread really that troublesome to the P & P Department, or what.?

As far as I know, nobody attacked Fanos for living in the "TRNC", which he very much likes. He was attacked only where and to whom he worked for. I told Fanos to live and work where ever he wished to do so, but to expect criticism to whom he worked for.

I can only hope that you have taken the last bit of advice you gave to Fanos your self.


I said I would let this thread die because people were asking for it to die. I could see that they were getting fed up with the bickering. The fact is that you will not let it die a peaceful death and are still challenging my questions without ever actually answering them. I have said before that I am glad you had a good time but I will also have to say that it was not my idea of a holiday. When I go on holiday it is to unwind and sit in the sun or sight seeing. I do not go on a political quest just so I can come back and say I told you so when the people you are saying that to, told you so already. You never did say whether you asked about the growing crime rate or TPaps court case or the surge in drug use or the illegal Hotels and buildings going up everywhere or whether they were tooling up for a war if and when the Turkish army move out or what would have happened if you were caught taking pictures when you were not supposed to and.................

[Murataga]

Bir wrote-

...according to Article 10 of the Constitution( ) of the said state Military's powers override those of the civil politicians and those of the Parliament,essentially making the so called Trnc a police state.

The following is the link to the Constitution of the TRNC from the official website of the parliament, which is what I believe what you had been referring to in you statement. Could you kindly translate to English and write here what Article 10 reads?

http://www.cm.gov.nc.tr/cm/anayasa/index.htm

[Kikapu]

I can only hope that you have taken the last bit of advice you gave to Fanos your self.


I said I would let this thread die because people were asking for it to die. I could see that they were getting fed up with the bickering. The fact is that you will not let it die a peaceful death and are still challenging my questions without ever actually answering them. I have said before that I am glad you had a good time but I will also have to say that it was not my idea of a holiday. When I go on holiday it is to unwind and sit in the sun or sight seeing. I do not go on a political quest just so I can come back and say I told you so when the people you are saying that to, told you so already. You never did say whether you asked about the growing crime rate or TPaps court case or the surge in drug use or the illegal Hotels and buildings going up everywhere or whether they were tooling up for a war if and when the Turkish army move out or what would have happened if you were caught taking pictures when you were not supposed to and.................

Fanos works / worked for a media company, that some believe is only a propaganda machine. Which propaganda machine are you suggesting, that I work for Zan.??

Yes, when we saw signs where it said, photos not allowed, we did not take any. I'm sure I would have had to face some punishment, as in any country. What is the punishment anyway?. You brought it up, so I assume you know the answer.

3 months ago, I seriously thought about contacting Talat and PappaD, to meet with them. As time went by, and the more mixed signals I was getting regarding the Military Service issues in the "TRNC", I gave up on the idea. I believe, I could have still met with PappaD if I tried, but without having the chance to see Talat, it would have been wrong for me to try and meet with PappaD. I knew for sure, I would have been labelled a traitor. Not that I'm being labelled anything less now, thanks to the courtesy of the P & P Department. Just different words, that's all.

I only had 2 weeks there Zan. Perhaps if I had one more week, I would have been able to ask all the burning questions, that you have raised, and also bring the oil to the surface, from the bottom of the sea.

Asking a little too much, are you not.??