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[humanist]

VP said

If you are spoon fed exactly what you wish to hear from someone you believe is from the other side this makes you feel good and embrace this individual. Thats all kikapolous is doing he is now one of you I hope you are all happy together but it will take more than a 2 week holiday and few smiling GCs to convince me that the "RoC" has the best interests of TCs at heart.

VP you have to ask your self why do you find friendship between Turkish Speaking / Greek Speaking Cypriots so offensive, what is it within you that brings you to shivers?

VP I may be an idealist and I may be a dreamer not only for a united Cyprus but also for a United peaceful world. But I am no fool> I challenge individuals and I challenge governments.

Kikapu as you so redely address him as extending his name, simply is an educated, passionate man who simply shares the same vision I do and that is for a united Cyprus where all Cypriots live in peace and harmony and yes I am happy for him that his experience of Greek speaking Cyriots has been a positive one. Much to your dismay and disgust most Greek speaking Cypriots are descent human beings who welcome everyone who wants and accepts their generosity and hospitality. You and a couple of others want to leave the forum well once again that is your choice, I am not going to lie and say that it will not be my pleasure to see you go. It will be an absolute delight to see you and other partitionsist leave, then the rest of us who want a united Cyprus can get on with the big task ahead of bringing people together and share ideas for a united Cyprus. The Island of cyprus all of I reiterate, belongs equally to all Cypriots, Turkish/ Armeninan/ Maronite and Greek and British/ English speakers. Unlike you I have included all minority groups and have not just concentrated on the Turkish or Greek interetss as you so very ofetn do. I doubt that you care for you Turkish speaking compatriots but rather your own self serving interestes.

I doubt that anything the RoC does or what Greek speaking Cypriots say or do will change your views. I am sick and tired of your perception of Greek speaking Cypriots as monsters from the moon or outer space whose main focus is to fuck Turkish speaking Cypriots over. The only people screwing Turklish speaking Cypiots over are people like you who feed them shit to keep them suppressed to meet your personal power games and that of your fake illegal administration that plays puppet to Turkish military dictators.

[Pyrpolizer]

I was not aware I was trying to win anything only state the fact that this individual is biased and he is prone to lieing.

First of all I read this nonsense from you 100 times. Why is he biased? Did he come here to compare how hostile or how friendly the GCs are in relation to the TCs. All he did is just check whether the poison you were feeding him in this forum and the thousands of warnings you gave him before travveling would become true or not. The fact is your last warning ended with something like this "the time of your visit is coming near. Talk again after you see with your own eyes how badly you will be treated by the GCs".

You are screaming and foaming in here because all your warnings to him proved nothing but a propaganda and a lie.

Secondly you never told us where exactly he lied? On his feelings on seeing the huge mostrosity the flag of the invadors and its negatoive image on the mountain? Tell us where did he lie, where exactly did he mention anything but facts?

[Pyrpolizer]

I for one do not regard you as a TC as I have stated many times, you will rot in foreign lands and with any luck you will never see any inch of the TRNC which will be here long after you pop your GC socks.

One thing is certain from all these. He will never have an arranged marriage and forced to return to Cyprus like a good backwards TC girl raised in London

[Pyrpolizer]

VP

I think that we should leave this thread as it is. I personally have found out all I need to know about how some operate on this forum. Unfortunately it is as I have always stated that when mob mentality takes over it is curtains for those that are on the outside of hat writhing mass of hypnotised souls. I do not wish to offend anyone in particular except for the author of the story that has caused all this. I really do not accept that anyone thought that the story would not attract criticism. I refuse to get into a slagging match with Kikapu any more. I have said my piece and believe in everything I said. That is the end of that. Kikapu will have to live with his story and as I have found in the past with every story I have written, you always go back and find that you could have done better. Kikapu, you could have done better.

Getting more and more critical Zany? Who practiced mob mentality here re? Who insulted here re? ho is hypnotised here re?

Certainly not the Swiss woman!

[Pyrpolizer]

Kikapu,

I finally managed to read it all tonight and I really enjoyed everything you wrote, despite the so much vermin thrown in by some people.
You said it yourself show respect to others and they will show respect to you too. This says it all...

If I were you I would put some lies in one of the chapters just to watch the reaction.

I think you have a pending question about the marinas and sailing no?
OK, most of the boats-yauhgts-sailboats you saw belong to foreigners. They are rich Europeans doing cruises in the Mediteranean. They may have sails but they are mostly used in the open sea to save fuel or in case of emergency. Those people park their boats in the marinas and usually stay in hotels. Its a very profitable bussiness as they pay a lot of money including their parking at the marina.

The marinas are now fully packed, so many of those people go park in neighbouring countries. So why not build some more?

[Viewpoint]

VP said

If you are spoon fed exactly what you wish to hear from someone you believe is from the other side this makes you feel good and embrace this individual. Thats all kikapolous is doing he is now one of you I hope you are all happy together but it will take more than a 2 week holiday and few smiling GCs to convince me that the "RoC" has the best interests of TCs at heart.

VP you have to ask your self why do you find friendship between Turkish Speaking / Greek Speaking Cypriots so offensive, what is it within you that brings you to shivers?

VP I may be an idealist and I may be a dreamer not only for a united Cyprus but also for a United peaceful world. But I am no fool> I challenge individuals and I challenge governments.

Kikapu as you so redely address him as extending his name, simply is an educated, passionate man who simply shares the same vision I do and that is for a united Cyprus where all Cypriots live in peace and harmony and yes I am happy for him that his experience of Greek speaking Cyriots has been a positive one. Much to your dismay and disgust most Greek speaking Cypriots are descent human beings who welcome everyone who wants and accepts their generosity and hospitality. You and a couple of others want to leave the forum well once again that is your choice, I am not going to lie and say that it will not be my pleasure to see you go. It will be an absolute delight to see you and other partitionsist leave, then the rest of us who want a united Cyprus can get on with the big task ahead of bringing people together and share ideas for a united Cyprus. The Island of cyprus all of I reiterate, belongs equally to all Cypriots, Turkish/ Armeninan/ Maronite and Greek and British/ English speakers. Unlike you I have included all minority groups and have not just concentrated on the Turkish or Greek interetss as you so very ofetn do. I doubt that you care for you Turkish speaking compatriots but rather your own self serving interestes.

I doubt that anything the RoC does or what Greek speaking Cypriots say or do will change your views. I am sick and tired of your perception of Greek speaking Cypriots as monsters from the moon or outer space whose main focus is to fuck Turkish speaking Cypriots over. The only people screwing Turklish speaking Cypiots over are people like you who feed them shit to keep them suppressed to meet your personal power games and that of your fake illegal administration that plays puppet to Turkish military dictators.

Easy to say when you are in the driving seat.

Kikapolous only cares for GCs full stop. He could not even visit the TRNC, that shows how one sided and biased he is, sucking up to you people, anyway lets cut the crap about Kikapolous I dont really care if he never visits the island ever again let alone the TRNC, judging from the progress made since 1983 the TRNC will be around for a good many years.

You under estimate TCs they are not stupid and they do not need me to tell them ehat to do your, the GC leadership is doing a great job in ensuring that the many thousands of viewpoints continue to exsist and increase.

[Pyrpolizer]

TRashNcan will never be accepted by anyone in the whole world as equal and respectable member of the International community, because it is based on THEFT, and is establised by 90% on stolen GC properties.

[BirKibrisli]

Just before we all sign off from this thread,I want to remind everyone that VPs did not answer Kikapu's vital question about what difference it would've made had he visited the Trnc as well...

You know, Viewpoint et al,I suspect kikapu's report would've been even less acceptable to you had he visited the North...There he would've found he is not in Cyprus at all but in a foreign country,largely populated by people from Adana,Hatay and,and other parts of Anatolia. He would've learned that just recently the Turkish General in charge of the Cyprus Peace Forces ( ) refused to shake the hand of the democratically elected leader of the TCs...He would've been stunned to find out that the general demanded that Soyer proved his Turkishness by singing the Turkish national anthem at his political party meeetings,and fly the Turkish flag and decorate the room with Ataturk's posters...

Kikapu would've learnt that no soldier of TC origin can ever became the commander of the armed forces in the pariah state of the TRNC...That no person of TC origin cound become president of the Central Bank (or the Reserve Bank as it is known in Oz) of the above said pariah state...He might have become gobsmacked to learn that according to Article 10 of the Constitution( ) of the said state Military's powers override those of the civil politicians and those of the Parliament,essentially making the so called Trnc a police state. Talking about Police,Kikapu might have learned that the Trnc police comes under the Chief of Staff of Turkey's armed forces,and not under the civilian PM...

Had he crossed over Kikapu might've learned that there are regular electricity cuts,and water only flows on certain days of the week. He might've found out that the average TC is petrified of the crime rates,and drug barrons and the brothel and casino operators who have more power than the members of parliament...And he might've found out that it was impossible to drive on the roads,for there are more cars and more bad drivers (often driving left-handed cars) on the roads...

Then of course there would be the visit to Asal Sube (the office which deals with military service) which would've made him sorry he had ever set foot in the North (as I personally felt in 1999,when it took me 3 days out of the 7 days I was in the North,to get the exit permit,and I had people high in the army helping me )...

I wonder what Kikapu's report would be like then...so my humble advice to you Viewpoint et al,is to count your blessings Kikapu never made it to the North,and remember the saying "Be careful what you wish for...for it might come true" One day when you are least expecting it!!!

But what do I know? I live 20,000 kms away in sunny Australia...
Right,VP???

[Murataga]

What does Article 10 of the Constitution say exactly?

[zan]

Just before we all sign off from this thread,I want to remind everyone that VPs did not answer Kikapu's vital question about what difference it would've made had he visited the Trnc as well...

You know, Viewpoint et al,I suspect kikapu's report would've been even less acceptable to you had he visited the North...There he would've found he is not in Cyprus at all but in a foreign country,largely populated by people from Adana,Hatay and,and other parts of Anatolia. He would've learned that just recently the Turkish General in charge of the Cyprus Peace Forces ( ) refused to shake the hand of the democratically elected leader of the TCs...He would've been stunned to find out that the general demanded that Soyer proved his Turkishness by singing the Turkish national anthem at his political party meeetings,and fly the Turkish flag and decorate the room with Ataturk's posters...

Kikapu would've learnt that no soldier of TC origin can ever became the commander of the armed forces in the pariah state of the TRNC...That no person of TC origin cound become president of the Central Bank (or the Reserve Bank as it is known in Oz) of the above said pariah state...He might have become gobsmacked to learn that according to Article 10 of the Constitution( ) of the said state Military's powers override those of the civil politicians and those of the Parliament,essentially making the so called Trnc a police state. Talking about Police,Kikapu might have learned that the Trnc police comes under the Chief of Staff of Turkey's armed forces,and not under the civilian PM...

Had he crossed over Kikapu might've learned that there are regular electricity cuts,and water only flows on certain days of the week. He might've found out that the average TC is petrified of the crime rates,and drug barrons and the brothel and casino operators who have more power than the members of parliament...And he might've found out that it was impossible to drive on the roads,for there are more cars and more bad drivers (often driving left-handed cars) on the roads...

Then of course there would be the visit to Asal Sube (the office which deals with military service) which would've made him sorry he had ever set foot in the North (as I personally felt in 1999,when it took me 3 days out of the 7 days I was in the North,to get the exit permit,and I had people high in the army helping me )...

I wonder what Kikapu's report would be like then...so my humble advice to you Viewpoint et al,is to count your blessings Kikapu never made it to the North,and remember the saying "Be careful what you wish for...for it might come true" One day when you are least expecting it!!!

But what do I know? I live 20,000 kms away in sunny Australia...
Right,VP???

He would have also found his brothers and the pain they are going through and maybe, just maybe thought of helping them and not vilifying them at every chance he gets. He would have found hundreds of TC that have gone back home and are trying to make the place better instead of moaning all the time and doing all he can to make their lives harder. He could have spent one night in and donated the money he saved to a hospital. In short he could have experienced what you have over exaggerated above and said to you, "It is not that bad really Bir". And you would have felt better from 20,000 kms away.

Now that is my last post on this thread......Promise.