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Postby Get Real! » Sun May 06, 2007 4:22 pm

zan wrote:So.....We owned 12% and the GCs owned every single inch of the rest of the island. Is that right. Think about your answer because there is a small trap in the question. :wink:


Here’s that table again Zan…

Land Ownership in Cyprus by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys
(Refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987)


Notice that State land is mixed with Church land in this table for some reason so we can’t calculate while there’s a variable in there but anyway I suspect your claim would look something like this…

TC Claim = 12.3% + (18% of (26% - Church land))

But a good GC lawyer would reply…

“Your Honor the Turkish Cypriot representatives abandoned the Partnership of the Cyprus government in pursuit of armed struggle for partition and thus forfeited their rights”

…and in accordance with Partnership law the GC would have a strong case... :lol:
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Postby zan » Sun May 06, 2007 4:23 pm

karma wrote:
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karma wrote:Dear Kikapu, I have enjoyed reading ur Cyprus trip story very muchh but I hope U make ur next trip to Cyprus in 2047...


Why 2047 Karma?


coz we all have a very interesting, wondering next 40 years till we read the next episodes :wink:


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Postby zan » Sun May 06, 2007 4:30 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:So.....We owned 12% and the GCs owned every single inch of the rest of the island. Is that right. Think about your answer because there is a small trap in the question. :wink:


Here’s that table again Zan…

Land Ownership in Cyprus by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys
(Refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987)


Notice that State land is mixed with Church land in this table for some reason so we can’t calculate while there’s a variable in there but anyway I suspect your claim would look something like this…

TC Claim = 12.3% + (18% of (26% - Church land))

But a good GC lawyer would reply…

“Your Honor the Turkish Cypriot representatives abandoned the Partnership of the Cyprus government in pursuit of armed struggle for partition and thus forfeited their rights”

…and in accordance with Partnership law the GC would have a strong case... :lol:


Thanks for that GR but I am sure that my government would contest that and they too would have a case. They just have not done a good job of it so far. We have a great lack of unscrupulous lawyers.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun May 06, 2007 5:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:So.....We owned 12% and the GCs owned every single inch of the rest of the island. Is that right. Think about your answer because there is a small trap in the question. :wink:


Here’s that table again Zan…

Land Ownership in Cyprus by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys
(Refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987)


Notice that State land is mixed with Church land in this table for some reason so we can’t calculate while there’s a variable in there but anyway I suspect your claim would look something like this…

TC Claim = 12.3% + (18% of (26% - Church land))

But a good GC lawyer would reply…

“Your Honor the Turkish Cypriot representatives abandoned the Partnership of the Cyprus government in pursuit of armed struggle for partition and thus forfeited their rights”

…and in accordance with Partnership law the GC would have a strong case... :lol:


Get Real, once again you tried to cross the field and stepped onto some animal dirt, and then came in and messed up the floor and the carpet, without even realising what you have done. Let me fix it for you, hoping that you will one day learn not to step onto animal shit, almost every time you try to wander outside the house.

Church land is included in the 60.9% of the Greek Cypriot private ownership land. Also, Evkaf land is included in the 12.3% of the Turkish Cypriot private ownership land. State land belongs only to the government of the RoC, and this includes all the non-privately owned properties in Cyprus (roads, government owned buildings, rivers, valleys, mountains, forest land, etc, etc, etc.)


Zan, in Greek we have a saying that is a very prophetic one, and you should never forget it! I am sure you also have it in Turkish!

Whoever asks for the "too much," one day will most definitely lose even the "very little!"

Do not come around crying when this will happen to you and /or to your community!
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Postby zan » Sun May 06, 2007 6:02 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:So.....We owned 12% and the GCs owned every single inch of the rest of the island. Is that right. Think about your answer because there is a small trap in the question. :wink:


Here’s that table again Zan…

Land Ownership in Cyprus by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys
(Refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987)


Notice that State land is mixed with Church land in this table for some reason so we can’t calculate while there’s a variable in there but anyway I suspect your claim would look something like this…

TC Claim = 12.3% + (18% of (26% - Church land))

But a good GC lawyer would reply…

“Your Honor the Turkish Cypriot representatives abandoned the Partnership of the Cyprus government in pursuit of armed struggle for partition and thus forfeited their rights”

…and in accordance with Partnership law the GC would have a strong case... :lol:


Get Real, once again you tried to cross the field and stepped onto some animal dirt, and then came in and messed up the floor and the carpet, without even realising what you have done. Let me fix it for you, hoping that you will one day learn not to step onto animal shit, almost every time you try to wander outside the house.

Church land is included in the 60.9% of the Greek Cypriot private ownership land. Also, Evkaf land is included in the 12.3% of the Turkish Cypriot private ownership land. State land belongs only to the government of the RoC, and this includes all the non-privately owned properties in Cyprus (roads, government owned buildings, rivers, valleys, mountains, forest land, etc, etc, etc.)


Zan, in Greek we have a saying that is a very prophetic one, and you should never forget it! I am sure you also have it in Turkish!

Whoever asks for the "too much," one day will most definitely lose even the "very little!"

Do not come around crying when this will happen to you and /or to your community!



Firts of all there is no "RoC" in the legal sense and secondly....Stand up straight man. You are a disgrace to the blue beret wearing EOKA army that you belong to. Do up your top button. :roll:
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Postby Kikapu » Sun May 06, 2007 6:04 pm

zan wrote:You cannot see what this “story” of Kikapus has done to this forum. It has driven apart, further, those that you say you want to unite. Not one of you is prepared to criticise a single line in the over exaggerated personal view of a troubled mind. .


Zan,

What part of what I wrote of my trip to Cyprus, gave you any indication, that I have a "troubled mind". I wrote about over coming my fears mostly placed there by the Partitionist on this Forum. The fact that I was able to be amongst thousands of fellow Cypriots, who happened to be Greek speakers, was a great relief for me. Do you find anything wrong in that.? Don't you think, this was a positive outcome towards Unity, as you like to ridicule the GC's, as not wanting Unity, but just their land back.? You and VP, the two leading Partitionist on this Forum, are the only two, who have day after day, tried to counter, what I have written. Why is it, that the other TC's, are not following both your leads. I do not want to put any words in anyone's mouths, but even if they do not agree with what I wrote, they surely not accusing me and siding with the Partitionist. This should cause some concern to you and VP. You two are the extreme of extremes, and all you are doing, is offending even the TC's, let alone the GC's.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun May 06, 2007 6:07 pm

Kifeas wrote:Get Real, once again you tried to cross the field and stepped onto some animal dirt, and then came in and messed up the floor and the carpet, without even realising what you have done. Let me fix it for you, hoping that you will one day learn not to step onto animal shit, almost every time you try to wander outside the house.


Kifeas, your childhood life on a farm is irrelevant to this thread. You need not tell us that you went through some very traumatic experiences as a child... we figured that out already. :(

Church land is included in the 60.9% of the Greek Cypriot private ownership land....


Unfortunately that's not what this table says so unless you post the source of your figures then they're as valuable as your opening paragraph. :)
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Postby Kifeas » Sun May 06, 2007 6:09 pm

zan wrote:
Firts of all there is no "RoC" in the legal sense and secondly....Stand up straight man. You are a disgrace to the blue beret wearing EOKA army that you belong to. Do up your top button. :roll:


And then you complain when I tell you that you have the IQ of a silly-goose!
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Postby Kifeas » Sun May 06, 2007 6:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Get Real, once again you tried to cross the field and stepped onto some animal dirt, and then came in and messed up the floor and the carpet, without even realising what you have done. Let me fix it for you, hoping that you will one day learn not to step onto animal shit, almost every time you try to wander outside the house.


Kifeas, your childhood life on a farm is irrelevant to this thread. You need not tell us that you went through some very traumatic experiences as a child... we figured that out already. :(

Church land is included in the 60.9% of the Greek Cypriot private ownership land....


Unfortunately that's not what this table says so unless you post the source of your figures then they're as valuable as your opening paragraph. :)

Whatever ...Get Real! Keep messing the house with the shit you continue stepping on, just because you cannot recognize it in the field, even when there is no grass around to hide it!
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Postby miltiades » Sun May 06, 2007 6:15 pm

ZAN , farted again.
""Firts of all there is no "RoC" in the legal sense and secondly....Stand up straight man. You are a disgrace to the blue beret wearing EOKA army that you belong to. Do up your top button. ""

In which legal sense stupid ?
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