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By the way, had he not been able to produce information to tell them he was still in school he would not have been allowed out of the country.
I say again. YOU said people have 90 days which evidently they have not

Did you not read anything that VP said? Once you turn 18 you are obliged to do the army! No if's No but's! It doesn't matter if you turned 18 on holiday, if you're 18 then you have to do your national service!!!! If you don't want to do it then you sort it all out BEFORE trying to head back to your country. The 90 day thing only applies when you let them know that you wont be doing it BEFORE HAND and not at the airport when you're trying to leave ...Are you stupid or something? Gosh...

I usually get mine sorted the day after I land so that I know I will have no problems. I've done this since I turned 18. Everyone in the North knows this, if your cousin didn't then thats their problem...!!!

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By the way, had he not been able to produce information to tell them he was still in school he would not have been allowed out of the country.
I say again. YOU said people have 90 days which evidently they have not

Did you not read anything that VP said? Once you turn 18 you are obliged to do the army! No if's No but's! It doesn't matter if you turned 18 on holiday, if you're 18 then you have to do your national service!!!! If you don't want to do it then you sort it all out BEFORE trying to head back to your country. The 90 day thing only applies when you let them know that you wont be doing it BEFORE HAND and not at the airport when you're trying to leave ...Are you stupid or something? Gosh...

I usually get mine sorted the day after I land so that I know I will have no problems. I've done this since I turned 18. Everyone in the North knows this, if your cousin didn't then thats their problem...!!!

Well said TC, this person must be an imbecile as they do not want to understand that the laws are applied whether or or not people try to break them knowing or unknowingly. Once the nephew had been told they had broken the law and how to correct things by producing the necessary documentation they did and the matter was closed. Now your nephew may visit the TRNC 90 day in any year without having to do military service. We are telling you facts if you still wish to believe your own lies then continue to do so.

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I personally have no problem with the 18% but have aired my views with this solution many times you have obviously not read them or you have but like so many other people you are so preconditioned that they do not registered in your brain.

I also asked for an example where the land distribution is based on the population ratios so that I may look into that example and see the way it is done. No one could provide anything but excuses.

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You do not need to make things too complicated VP. Just take the 18%, which is a lot of land by the way. When I travelled in the RoC, which has 3 times as many people as in the North, and land size is less than twice as much, than it is in the North, I was surprised as the the amount of land, that was sitting empty. The whole place seems to be under populated, with the mountains and all, so the same has to be said to the North. At the moment, I would guess, you have way too much empty land.

Why do you need another example to show why the land needs to be divided on 82%-18% ratios, and not keep it the way it is now. You are asking the RoC to be "fair"with the TC's and stop the embargoes and isolation, so why can't you be "fair", and accept the 18%. If I was as determined as you are, to have my own State, I would do it. I know a lot of people, like Dektash and his land grabbing friends will more than have to return what does not belong to them, but you get to have your own Nation, and in peace too, with the GC's blessing, I'm sure. I think that would be a win win situation. You probably don't even need to have a real border, just a imaginary one, if both sides cooperate to have strict control of immigration to the outside world, because we are a small island.

So you to cannot supply an example where the land distribution of a country is established according to the population ratios that must tell you something, but of course GCs and their devout followers do not want to address this question as it doesnt work in their favor, but hey Im ok with 18%.

Like I said, who needs an example. Can you tell me, that there is another place in the world, that has our unique problems. Take the 18%, based on the numbers at the time of the 1960 Constitution and call yourself what ever state you want. You can even keep the "graffiti" on the mountain, if it falls within your 18%. That's sounds fair to me, or have 2 states 1 country where you will have 100% of the island, but the "graffiti" comes down. If not, Karma will arrange a land slide.

You seem to agree on the 18%, so I don't want to hear any more bitching or complaining from you, instead convince the rest of the TC's to adopt this idea, and get ready to return the other 19% of the Northern part of Cyprus, in equal proportions of coastal and inland to the RoC, so that everyone can live in peace.

Now, was that, that difficult to solve.??

Ho were you talking on behalf of the GCs thats right you are one, but surely you should get the agreement of your own GC leaders to put this forward after telling those GCs with property in the 18% that they have lost their rights forever and will never return.

You have to provide 1 example, if you are unable to do so then your whole arguement is flawed and the TRNC can stay as 37% inviting GCs to come live in the TRNC with us under TC administration.

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Kikapolous said

Thanks for reading it BOF. I don't take it as abuse from the Partitionist. It gives me an opportunity to point out their Agenda. They are only hurting themselves. Then again, it make good debate and I do not take it personally. But once in a while, I do get pissed off with them, would be the time for them to buy extra large jar off Vaseline, because they will be getting a lot of "fisting" from me.

Was the above comment really called for? should we respond in the same vulgar and degrading fashion? This is a reflection of you more than anything else.

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Kikapu, your story is lost among the comments of people. Could you make a new thread with the whole story so people can find it easier?

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Kikapu, your story is lost among the comments of people. Could you make a new thread with the whole story so people can find it easier?

Do you mean to re-write it Sotos.??

Perhaps the ADMIN can move it for me, under the thread "Kikapu's report form Cyprus". They can put all 9 pages together.

Thanks for the idea Sotos.

But I can still answer questions on this thread regarding the trip, if anybody has any.

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Kikapolous said

Thanks for reading it BOF. I don't take it as abuse from the Partitionist. It gives me an opportunity to point out their Agenda. They are only hurting themselves. Then again, it make good debate and I do not take it personally. But once in a while, I do get pissed off with them, would be the time for them to buy extra large jar off Vaseline, because they will be getting a lot of "fisting" from me.

Was the above comment really called for? should we respond in the same vulgar and degrading fashion? This is a reflection of you more than anything else.

Why is it, out of 10,000+ members on this forum, it is only you who have chosen to comment, when I did not even direct my comments to you personally or to anyone else, or did you have some kind of a "flash back", on what I said.

I really do not want to know the answer, thank you very much.

[Kikapu]

Ho were you talking on behalf of the GCs thats right you are one, but surely you should get the agreement of your own GC leaders to put this forward after telling those GCs with property in the 18% that they have lost their rights forever and will never return.

You have to provide 1 example, if you are unable to do so then your whole arguement is flawed and the TRNC can stay as 37% inviting GCs to come live in the TRNC with us under TC administration.

Who is the bullshitter now. What's the matter, your boss gave you a lot of bollocking, for accepting the 18%, without consulting the higher up. You don't even know whether to shit or get off the pot.

I don't even know why I waste my time on you really. It's like a merry go around with you. Perhaps it was the "other" VP that accepted the 18%.

Now, that would make sense.

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Kikapu
I used to think more or less on the same lines as you until the checkpoints opened and we started mixing with GC's...
In fact i opposed the partitionist TRNC administrations all my life in all ways,be it election times be it demonstrations against their actions...Back in 2002 i spent weeks on the streets demonstrating against them rallying for reunification...
But,as i said when the checkpoints opened and we started interacting with each other,i saw the bitter truth that GC's in general were not thinking along the same lines..
You can say we are all Cypriots,but to them they are more Cypriot than any other..they have that huge chip on the shoulder...
I do not like the idea of being treated as a second class citizen in my own country..
I am not saying TRNC is perfect but at least i don't have that feeling on this side of the border and that means a lot to me...
Having said that,the bottom line as you have put it...I do not hate any GC as long as they show me the same respect i show them as a fellow countryman...After all we are all Cypriots by birth weather we like it or not..

Iceman,

I'll be happy to give you an explanation on the GC's attitude towards the TC's, after the crossings were opened if you really want me to, since Humanist did answer it, in his own way.

Let me know please.

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Kikapolous said

Thanks for reading it BOF. I don't take it as abuse from the Partitionist. It gives me an opportunity to point out their Agenda. They are only hurting themselves. Then again, it make good debate and I do not take it personally. But once in a while, I do get pissed off with them, would be the time for them to buy extra large jar off Vaseline, because they will be getting a lot of "fisting" from me.

Was the above comment really called for? should we respond in the same vulgar and degrading fashion? This is a reflection of you more than anything else.

Why is it, out of 10,000+ members on this forum, it is only you who have chosen to comment, when I did not even direct my comments to you personally or to anyone else, or did you have some kind of a "flash back", on what I said.

I really do not want to know the answer, thank you very much.

Why post it in the first place? you even have the audascity to try and get everyone to excuse your vulgar and degrading comments by making some more.