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[Kikapu]

Your comments have always been about how bad the TRNC/KKTC is. You did not even visit the north to find out if your argument holds any water but two weeks as a tourist in the south and you are ready to sign on the dotted line.

I make comments on "TRNC/KKTC" based on what the Partitionist say. One day everything is rosey, and the next day, the RoC is strangling the TC's with embargoes. It is you guys, that can't get your stories correct. Don't blame me, for punching holes in your stories. Then again, when one does not tell the truth, they make their own holes. I just merely point them out, where the holes are.

Isn't it sad, that due to the occupation and an illegal formation state in the North called the "TRNC", I could not visit whole of my country, unless I laid down £4,000 UK Pounds. Why is it, that the RoC did not do the same.? Why am I considered a citizen of "TRNC", that I did not ask for, when I'm already citizen of Cyprus, and to abdicate my "TRNC" citizenship, I must first complete my Military Service and or pay the £4,000 Pounds. Sorry, but I'm not in the habit of endorsing illegal Highway Robbery.

Agian...You see what you want to see. We did not say that there are NO problems in the TRNC/KKTC but we argue against the lies that you seem to endorse without knowing what you are talking about. YES the embargoes are effecting our progress but NO we are not about to fall into the sea. The problem is that you guys want us to fall apart so that you can waltz in and pick up the pieces and it hurts you so much that Turkey is helping to keep us afloat.

As to the excuse you gave about why you did not visit the TRNC/KKTC If you read the first two installments of your story, you will note that you paid great attention to creating the atmosphere of apprehension that we caused you to have because of what people like VP and me had already said. Did that apprehension stop you from visiting the south........NO! So why are you now whimpering about not being man enough to visit the north and put those ghosts to bed as well. There are many stories being banded around Kikapu. You have made your choice about which ones to believe and which ones not to believe with a little bit of bias to help with your lies. Why don't you tell the rest of the GCs that you looked over the wall and saw such depravity that it has given you nightmares.

When a De Facto state officials of the "TRNC" tell my brother, that if I enter the "TRNC", I could be forced to do a Military Service right there and then, held against my will, depending who is on duty at the "ASAL SUBE", it was an easy decision to make, as not to go there. When you and VP make comments regarding the RoC, all I have to do, is look at the source and the reasons, as to why. The worst that could have happened to me in the RoC, was to be humiliated by the GC's, because I'm a TC. I could have dealt with that, but to be kept against my will, was not a choice. I went trough that already, when I was 8 years old, in 1963.

Listen, when I come to the UK, I don't visit all of UK either. So don't take it as a rejection, by not visiting whole Cyprus.

[Piratis]

Lets go out there and find a really nice aged nazi and then we can convince the Jews that they were nice people.

Nazism is a racist ideology. There is no such thing as "really nice Nazi". Just the fact that you compare the whole GC community with Nazis is enough to confirm what you are trying to deny: That you are trying to portrait GCs as evil.

Nazis, racists and extremists exist in all countries. Surely the government of a country could affect its population and make a lot more of them think in that racist way, like what happened in Germany during Hitler. However, as Kikapu can now confirm, this is not what happened in the free areas of Cyprus, despite the fact that people are perfectly justified to feel anger for the injustices and illegalities against them.

On the other hand, your attitude is a proof that a number of TCs (the majority in my opinion) just like the majority of Germans during Hitler, are now convinced that to occupy the land of others and the mass and indiscriminate violations of the human rights of a whole community is justified. So if you want to compare Nazis with some people in Cyprus, those should be the people like you that share your racist ideology.

[zan]

Lets go out there and find a really nice aged nazi and then we can convince the Jews that they were nice people.

Nazism is a racist ideology. There is no such thing as "really nice Nazi". Just the fact that you compare the whole GC community with Nazis is enough to confirm what you are trying to deny: That you are trying to portrait GCs as evil.

Nazis, racists and extremists exist in all countries. Surely the government of a country could affect its population and make a lot more of them think in that racist way, like what happened in Germany during Hitler. However, as Kikapu can now confirm, this is not what happened in the free areas of Cyprus, despite the fact that people are perfectly justified to feel anger for the injustices and illegalities against them.

On the other hand, your attitude is a proof that a number of TCs (the majority in my opinion) just like the majority of Germans during Hitler, are now convinced that to occupy the land of others and the mass and indiscriminate violations of the human rights of a whole community is justified. So if you want to compare Nazis with some people in Cyprus, those should be the people like you that share your racist ideology.

Did not even bother to read this crap Piratis. I DID NOT COMPARE THE GCS TO THE NAZIS. You people just see what you want to see and that is the the only reason you need to treat us as you do.

[zan]

Your comments have always been about how bad the TRNC/KKTC is. You did not even visit the north to find out if your argument holds any water but two weeks as a tourist in the south and you are ready to sign on the dotted line.

I make comments on "TRNC/KKTC" based on what the Partitionist say. One day everything is rosey, and the next day, the RoC is strangling the TC's with embargoes. It is you guys, that can't get your stories correct. Don't blame me, for punching holes in your stories. Then again, when one does not tell the truth, they make their own holes. I just merely point them out, where the holes are.

Isn't it sad, that due to the occupation and an illegal formation state in the North called the "TRNC", I could not visit whole of my country, unless I laid down £4,000 UK Pounds. Why is it, that the RoC did not do the same.? Why am I considered a citizen of "TRNC", that I did not ask for, when I'm already citizen of Cyprus, and to abdicate my "TRNC" citizenship, I must first complete my Military Service and or pay the £4,000 Pounds. Sorry, but I'm not in the habit of endorsing illegal Highway Robbery.

Agian...You see what you want to see. We did not say that there are NO problems in the TRNC/KKTC but we argue against the lies that you seem to endorse without knowing what you are talking about. YES the embargoes are effecting our progress but NO we are not about to fall into the sea. The problem is that you guys want us to fall apart so that you can waltz in and pick up the pieces and it hurts you so much that Turkey is helping to keep us afloat.

As to the excuse you gave about why you did not visit the TRNC/KKTC If you read the first two installments of your story, you will note that you paid great attention to creating the atmosphere of apprehension that we caused you to have because of what people like VP and me had already said. Did that apprehension stop you from visiting the south........NO! So why are you now whimpering about not being man enough to visit the north and put those ghosts to bed as well. There are many stories being banded around Kikapu. You have made your choice about which ones to believe and which ones not to believe with a little bit of bias to help with your lies. Why don't you tell the rest of the GCs that you looked over the wall and saw such depravity that it has given you nightmares.

When a De Facto state officials of the "TRNC" tell my brother, that if I enter the "TRNC", I could be forced to do a Military Service right there and then, held against my will, depending who is on duty at the "ASAL SUBE", it was an easy decision to make, as not to go there. When you and VP make comments regarding the RoC, all I have to do, is look at the source and the reasons, as to why. The worst that could have happened to me in the RoC, was to be humiliated by the GC's, because I'm a TC. I could have dealt with that, but to be kept against my will, was not a choice. I went trough that already, when I was 8 years old, in 1963.

Listen, when I come to the UK, I don't visit all of UK either. So don't take it as a rejection, by not visiting whole Cyprus.

"I felt I was home"


If you had taken VPs and my comments literally as you sometimes choose to you could have had the life sucked out of you by the GCs. They also eat children.

[Get Real!]

Zan, I wish you'd give it a break and let the man continue until he's done please.

[zan]

Zan, I wish you'd give it a break and let the man continue until he's done please.

I did suggest that but he insists on dragging me into it.
Tell your story Kikapu. Leave me out until your summing up.

[Niki]

Zan, I wish you'd give it a break and let the man continue until he's done please.

I did suggest that but he insists on dragging me into it.
Tell your story Kikapu. Leave me out until your summing up.

Then shut the F**k up and don't get involved.

You were right there as soon as Kikapu's posts began ready and waiting to contradict.

DON'T!

[zan]

Zan, I wish you'd give it a break and let the man continue until he's done please.

I did suggest that but he insists on dragging me into it.
Tell your story Kikapu. Leave me out until your summing up.

Then shut the F**k up and don't get involved.

You were right there as soon as Kikapu's posts began ready and waiting to contradict.

DON'T!

Did you read the above or are you just letting off steam. I told him to leave the politics out and he chose not to. When I want you to referee I will ask you. Thanks all the same.

[miltiades]

Kikapu, my dear friend my beloved Cypriot compatriot , you have made a 61 year old man cry . I haven't shed tears for some time now but reading and imagining your feelings in visiting our country of birth after so many years is so profoundly emotional. I'm happy that we have amongst us people such as you who see our island as our own birth country and not as the VPs of this world see it as no different to Spain , Italy or any other foreign country From the bottom of my heart I send to you my warmest wishes for the future and may we soon see our island united. Our people are great people , they have a tremendous sense of fairness and self respect.

[Niki]

Zan, I wish you'd give it a break and let the man continue until he's done please.

I did suggest that but he insists on dragging me into it.
Tell your story Kikapu. Leave me out until your summing up.

Then shut the F**k up and don't get involved.

You were right there as soon as Kikapu's posts began ready and waiting to contradict.

DON'T!

Did you read the above or are you just letting off steam. I told him to leave the politics out and he chose not to. When I want you to referee I will ask you. Thanks all the same.

Of course you would ask me

Just try to resist hey!