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Postby zan » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:12 am

Up to 160,000 Greek Cypriots went to the south when fighting started. Some 50,000 Turkish Cypriots later(1975) moved to the north


http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history ... /1974.html

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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:12 am

Viewpoint wrote:Back to the numbers game, like it or not we are a community who demands equal community right = 2 equal partners north and south. You lost the % split back in 1974, now you have to deal with 2 states.


2 states? 2 states will exist if and when we agree to such thing. Until then there is only one state, and an illegal Turkish military camp in which you live in.

You think you won the war and now you can force us to accept your unfair terms? Think again. You have been the biggest losers, and unless you drop your fantasy that you won the war and now you can demand whatever outrageous comes to your mind, then you will continue to be the biggest losers.
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Postby zan » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:15 am

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Back to the numbers game, like it or not we are a community who demands equal community right = 2 equal partners north and south. You lost the % split back in 1974, now you have to deal with 2 states.


2 states? 2 states will exist if and when we agree to such thing. Until then there is only one state, and an illegal Turkish military camp in which you live in.

You think you won the war and now you can force us to accept your unfair terms? Think again. You have been the biggest losers, and unless you drop your fantasy that you won the war and now you can demand whatever outrageous comes to your mind, then you will continue to be the biggest losers.


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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:17 am

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Back to the numbers game, like it or not we are a community who demands equal community right = 2 equal partners north and south. You lost the % split back in 1974, now you have to deal with 2 states.


2 states? 2 states will exist if and when we agree to such thing. Until then there is only one state, and an illegal Turkish military camp in which you live in.

You think you won the war and now you can force us to accept your unfair terms? Think again. You have been the biggest losers, and unless you drop your fantasy that you won the war and now you can demand whatever outrageous comes to your mind, then you will continue to be the biggest losers.


OK if it makes you happy we are the losers but it doesnt change the reality of us living in seperate areas of Cyprus, yours recognized ours not. You still have to take into account this fact and find a formula that will resolves matters.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:26 am

zan wrote:
Up to 160,000 Greek Cypriots went to the south when fighting started. Some 50,000 Turkish Cypriots later(1975) moved to the north

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history ... /1974.html
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Zan, I’m going to give you some free advice…

Never ever quote figures from Turkish Cypriot websites. They are so out of touch with reality that an eight-year-old making a wild guess is probably more accurate. Here is a piece that gives you some idea but there's much more detailed sources out there...

1. HUMANITARIAN CONSEQUENCES OF THE INVASION

As Table 1 outlines, there are several categories of displaced per- sons and other people in need of help. The first, and by far the largest category, are the Greek Cypriot refugees in the Government controlled area of the south. Official statistics in the field estimate that at least 200,000 Greek Cypriots have been displaced from Turkish occupied areas. Some 30,000 of these people have found shelter with relatives or friends, and need a minimum of relief assistance. The remainder, how- ever, have needed shelter as well as general relief. In addition to these "semi-permanent" refugees, thousands of other Greek Cypriots, living in areas bordering the ceasefire line, have been temporarily displaced, because of actual Turkish troop movements in their area or the fear and threat of new military operations by Turkish forces.
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Postby zan » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:29 am

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Up to 160,000 Greek Cypriots went to the south when fighting started. Some 50,000 Turkish Cypriots later(1975) moved to the north

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history ... /1974.html
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Zan, I’m going to give you some free advice…

Never ever quote figures from Turkish Cypriot websites. They are so out of touch with reality that an eight-year-old making a wild guess is probably more accurate. Here is a piece that gives you some idea but there's much more detailed sources out there...

1. HUMANITARIAN CONSEQUENCES OF THE INVASION

As Table 1 outlines, there are several categories of displaced per- sons and other people in need of help. The first, and by far the largest category, are the Greek Cypriot refugees in the Government controlled area of the south. Official statistics in the field estimate that at least 200,000 Greek Cypriots have been displaced from Turkish occupied areas. Some 30,000 of these people have found shelter with relatives or friends, and need a minimum of relief assistance. The remainder, how- ever, have needed shelter as well as general relief. In addition to these "semi-permanent" refugees, thousands of other Greek Cypriots, living in areas bordering the ceasefire line, have been temporarily displaced, because of actual Turkish troop movements in their area or the fear and threat of new military operations by Turkish forces.


And you got that from another TC site I suppose :wink:
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:30 am

I can only make fair formulas. Unfair ones do not resolve anything, they just create more problems. So you can either accept a fair formula or continue to be the biggest greedy losers.
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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:30 am

Yeah GR wheres the link? :wink: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:30 am

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Up to 160,000 Greek Cypriots went to the south when fighting started. Some 50,000 Turkish Cypriots later(1975) moved to the north

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history ... /1974.html
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Zan, I’m going to give you some free advice…

Never ever quote figures from Turkish Cypriot websites. They are so out of touch with reality that an eight-year-old making a wild guess is probably more accurate. Here is a piece that gives you some idea but there's much more detailed sources out there...

1. HUMANITARIAN CONSEQUENCES OF THE INVASION

As Table 1 outlines, there are several categories of displaced per- sons and other people in need of help. The first, and by far the largest category, are the Greek Cypriot refugees in the Government controlled area of the south. Official statistics in the field estimate that at least 200,000 Greek Cypriots have been displaced from Turkish occupied areas. Some 30,000 of these people have found shelter with relatives or friends, and need a minimum of relief assistance. The remainder, how- ever, have needed shelter as well as general relief. In addition to these "semi-permanent" refugees, thousands of other Greek Cypriots, living in areas bordering the ceasefire line, have been temporarily displaced, because of actual Turkish troop movements in their area or the fear and threat of new military operations by Turkish forces.


And you got that from another TC site I suppose :wink:


http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/conseque ... senate.htm
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:38 am

What links do you want? That show that TCs are the 18%? Here it is from your American friends: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fa ... os/cy.html

If it is about the GCs that you ethnically cleansed and whether they are 200.000 or 180.000 this is irrelevant to this thread.

What difference would that make in an 18%-82% partition which you wouldn't accept even though it would satisfy all your "concerns" and you instead prefer to keep trying to grab as much land from us as possible?

Or maybe you are trying to avoid the topic of this thread which is: The TCs are just using lame excuses while in fact the only thing they care about is how to gain as much land on our loss as possible.
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