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The partition poll

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Would you accept partition with 82% GC state and 18% TC state?

(GC) No. I only accept Cyprus to be a single state and I will wait as long as it takes
9
32%
(GC) No. I prefer the status quo
0
No votes
(GC) No. We can achieve a European solution soon
1
4%
(GC) Yes
9
32%
(TC) No. I only accept Cyprus to be a single state
3
11%
(TC) No. I accept only if TC state is 25% or more
0
No votes
(TC) No. I accept only if TC state is 29% or more
4
14%
(TC) No. I accept only if TC state is 36% or more
1
4%
(TC) No. I prefer the status quo
1
4%
(TC) Yes
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 28

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:42 am

Piratis
We went over this before Viewpoint. You can have 18%, and if you accept to have a number of GCs in that 18% then an equal number of TCs will be allowed in the 82%, therefore restoring the balance.


We did but the likelihood of TCs moving to a GC state is very low.

Nobody agreed for 29%. It was just part of a proposal that not only was not agreed but on the contrary it was rejected in the most direct way possible


Its been proposed before and was again put on the table so you can keep rejecting it but it will rear its head every time.

By the way, if anybody would be allowed to settle wherever they wish, then whats the point of 2 states? Half of GCs could then move to north and what we would have would be 2 GC states.


If GCs want to live under TC administration which I doubt they are welcome but political rights would be another matter as we discussed before.

So why not to have just one united Cyprus without stupid splits so each Cypriot will have the 100% of Cyprus?


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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:50 am

If GCs want to live under TC administration which I doubt they are welcome but political rights would be another matter as we discussed before.

So you see. You also doubt they will, and you will accept them only as second category citizens with reduced rights. Therefore why should you have the 29%?

I hope you understand we are not fools to accept that. You keep the 18% and we the 82%. Even if you do not allow even a single GC to return in that 18%, still more refugees will be able to return in the areas that would be returned to GC administration than those that would return as second class citizens in a 29% TC state.
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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:58 am

Even if it were compromised that lets say TC's get 24% then we would have to wait another 40 years till they agreed on what part of Cyprus the 24% would consist of :roll:
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Postby Simon » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:59 am

You trying to gain a sneaky 1% there TC :lol:

You just changed it well done! :lol:
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:01 am

We should ANY part of Cyprus be exclusively Turkish? Forget that - either the whole of Cyprus is free or they can carry on feeling the affects of international law and the crimes Turkey is commiting!
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Postby T_C » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:04 am

Simon wrote:You trying to gain a sneaky 1% there TC :lol:

You just changed it well done! :lol:



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well I wrote 25% at first but thought someone would try probably try scold me so changed it but forgot to change the other :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:22 am

What effects are they feeling, snake? Perhaps you would like to elaborate.
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Postby zan » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:38 am

Piratis wrote:
If GCs want to live under TC administration which I doubt they are welcome but political rights would be another matter as we discussed before.

So you see. You also doubt they will, and you will accept them only as second category citizens with reduced rights. Therefore why should you have the 29%?

I hope you understand we are not fools to accept that. You keep the 18% and we the 82%. Even if you do not allow even a single GC to return in that 18%, still more refugees will be able to return in the areas that would be returned to GC administration than those that would return as second class citizens in a 29% TC state.



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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:27 am

zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
If GCs want to live under TC administration which I doubt they are welcome but political rights would be another matter as we discussed before.

So you see. You also doubt they will, and you will accept them only as second category citizens with reduced rights. Therefore why should you have the 29%?

I hope you understand we are not fools to accept that. You keep the 18% and we the 82%. Even if you do not allow even a single GC to return in that 18%, still more refugees will be able to return in the areas that would be returned to GC administration than those that would return as second class citizens in a 29% TC state.



Whats good for the goose is good for the gander :roll:


Wrong. I have always supported that TCs and GCs have exactly the same rights and responsibilities in one unified Cyprus without any form of borders.

You are the ones insisting for racist discriminations and apartheid divisions.
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Postby zan » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:37 am

Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
If GCs want to live under TC administration which I doubt they are welcome but political rights would be another matter as we discussed before.

So you see. You also doubt they will, and you will accept them only as second category citizens with reduced rights. Therefore why should you have the 29%?

I hope you understand we are not fools to accept that. You keep the 18% and we the 82%. Even if you do not allow even a single GC to return in that 18%, still more refugees will be able to return in the areas that would be returned to GC administration than those that would return as second class citizens in a 29% TC state.



Whats good for the goose is good for the gander :roll:


Wrong. I have always supported that TCs and GCs have exactly the same rights and responsibilities in one unified Cyprus without any form of borders.

You are the ones insisting for racist discriminations and apartheid divisions.



But you never accept the fact that in Cyprus, with its history, there can be no equality without special consideration for this. I have told you before about the EU equality in which hundreds if not thousands of eastern European people are standing in car parks waiting to be used as cheap labor by an uncaring world. You have kept us poor for long enough, and we have foolishly waited for you to start thinking of us as Cypriots and let us progress, to warrant the same conditions are waiting for my people.
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