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Postby insan » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:43 pm

Athens and Nicosia adopt common strategy on Cyprus, PM Karamanlis says
Athens, 26/1/2005 (ANA)
Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis, after his meeting with visiting President of the Republic of Cyprus Tassos Papadopoulos at Maximos Mansion on Tuesday evening, emphasized that Athens and Nicosia adopt a common strategy regarding the Cyprus issue. Specifically, Karamanlis said that the objective is to "reach an agreed upon, operational and viable solution to the Cyprus problem that will be based on the Annan plan and on the positions recently adopted by Cyprus."
Karamanlis also stressed the importance of Cyprus' EU accession, thus noting that the solution to the Cyprus problem "must be in compliance with the fundamental values and principles on which the Union is founded."

The prime minister also said that he and Papadopoulos exchanged views on upcoming developments within the context of the UN and the EU, but also within the context of Ankara's obligations in matters of foreign policy following the decisions taken during the December 17 EU Summit.

"We confirmed once again our excellent cooperation on all levels," Karamanlis stated, adding that both sides will continue working in this direction.

Asked whether he agrees with Papadopoulos' view that changes to the Annan plan must be substantial and not decorative, Karamanlis explained that the main topic of discussion during Tuesday's meeting was "which parts of the Annan plan we would like to see amended." The prime minister said that both sides were working very closely on this point.

Asked whether he believes Turkey will sign the Ankara Treaty to include the 10 new, EU member-states, Karamanlis replied that what is important is not what he believes but the obligations that each country has undertaken. "During December's EU Summit, Turkey took on specific obligations on this matter," he said.

On his part, Papadopoulos said he was satisfied with the discussion he had with Karamanlis, with whom he has an ongoing cooperation.

"Despite this we deemed this meeting useful in order to better coordinate the two governments and to exchange views on all issues pertaining to the Cyprus problem," the Cypriot president said.

On Wednesday, Papadopoulos will be meeting with Kostis Stephanopoulos, President of the Hellenic Republic, and with Greek political leaders: George Papandreou, main opposition Panhellenic Socialist Movement (PASOK) President; Aleka Papariga, Secretary General of the Communist Party of Greece (KKE); and a delegation of the Coalition of the Left, Movements and Ecology (SYN) party.

Finally, Nicos Anastassiades, President of the Cypriot Democratic Rally party will be meeting with Greek Foreign Minister Petros Molyviatis.
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Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:13 pm

And they say the south is independant from greece, yeh right.
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Postby boulio » Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:20 pm

brother consulting with and actually making the descion is two different things,i can post 100 article about the turkish govt and army red lines pre-lucerne meeting,can you post a article concerning greece red-lines?no because they have none.greece wants a agreed viable solution,the roc will make the final descion on a agreement,not some general in athens.
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Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:06 pm

Bulio lets be serious now, do you really think ROC would do anything without greece's blessing.

The north are more open of the situation as we the tc let it be known but the same cannot be said for the south.
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Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:07 pm

Also if you were so independent tassos would have used his veto and that it was greece that did not allow him to, does this not tell you something.
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Postby insan » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:16 pm

Boullio, consulting and as Karamanlis stated,"We confirmed once again our excellent cooperation on all levels," is two totally different things which indicates that the authorities of Cyprus and Greece have always agreed upon a common strategy. So, what kind of consultation is this, that keep them agreed upon a common strategy? It is obvious that they together developed this strategy and they have no divergances regarding the solution of Cyprus problem unlike some political groups of TCs divergances with Turkey.


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For these fundamentalists of greater Hellenism, the military pact with Greece is not just a defence doctrine: it is a military alternative to a negotiated solution. Did not the archbishop say, after the joint Greek and Greek Cypriot manoeuvres in autumn 1997: "May the next manoeuvre be in the occupied territories. United and supported by Greece, we can liberate our enslaved territories"?

It is a real sign of cowardice in the face of the chauvinism to which the Greek Cypriots owe virtually all the disasters of their history that no politician in Nicosia dares stand up to the clerical demagogue. So much so that the Rejection Front, supported by not much more than 20% of the population, is able to set the tone of the political debate and block any rational discussion of the S-300s and defence doctrine (6).



Complete demilitarisation of Cyprus was seen by the Greek general staff as a setback for "Hellenism".



http://mondediplo.com/1998/09/06cyprus
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:40 pm

insan wrote:unlike some political groups of TCs divergances with Turkey.


Insan, just adding that it's pretty much like that in the South, too. Some political groups/parties are opposed to the 'common strategy' that you mentioned, whether it be set by Greece, or with Greece, or by the RoC just informing Greece.
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Postby boulio » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:02 pm

your quoting seven year old article insan you can do better than that cant you?many things have changed since then,many govts. and many concerns so something more recent would be appreciated. :wink:
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Postby boulio » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:04 pm

brother wrote:

Also if you were so independent tassos would have used his veto and that it was greece that did not allow him to, does this not tell you something.


i thought it was germany,britain and france according to many t/c in this forum a few weeks ago,i believe erolz said that the french president mittidand(even though it was chirac)yelled at pappadopoulos like a school boy,so who was it finally can you guys get your story straight? :wink:
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Postby brother » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:41 pm

Yes what others qouted is true but i am focusing solely on greece and the greek goverment did not want the ROC veto to happen, thats all.

I am not trying to pull the wool over your eyes i just want to be able to show you the light.
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